Thread: Protesters target deportation of mom with U.S. citizen kids

I urge all of you to send a short message applauding the enforcement action of the Tucson Police Dept. Our voices also need to be heard.

Tucson Police Department
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Mayor Bob Walkup
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Josh Brodesky ,

From your story:
Aviles de Reyes, 23, said she has lived in the United States for seven years. It was unclear if she worked while in the U.S., but she said her husband worked in construction.Where did her husband work ?

This employer is clearly in violation of U.S. law.

On Dec. 9, Officer James Kneup stopped a truck driven by Aviles de Reyes' husband, Gustavo Reyes, in the 1400 block of West Miracle Mile because a check of the license plate showed the truck's insurance had been suspended.

This was done before they were stopped, so it CAN'T be claimed as racial profiling.

How do these groups that are protesting expect the mother or the father to be able to support themselves or their mulitiple children? It doesn't matter if the kids are citizens, the only thing that matters is the parents want to live here, but CAN'T WORK. The employer sanctions law went into effect today. If they can't work, how do they support themselves. If the kids are on welfare, that is supposed to be used for the kids, not to support 2 grown adults, pay their rent, buy their clothes and other necessities, buy food for everyone, it's supposed to be for the kids only. So if they "win" and keep them here, then what? They still can't take care of the kids, so isn't that considered child neglect? At that point, shouldn't CPS step in? Normally, wouldn't CPS try to help the parents become self-sufficient? In this case it's simply impossible for them to be self-sufficient in AZ so really there is no choice but force them back to Mexico. Are these groups just going to take care of the whole bunch of them forever? Are they going to take care of the illegal parents until they are 80-something and pass away? THEY CAN'T WORK ANYMORE. THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEXICO WHERE THEY WON'T WORK AND AZ WHERE THEY CAN'T WORK? Why can't these groups get that into their heads?

Originally Posted by Steph

How do these groups that are protesting expect the mother or the father to be able to support themselves or their mulitiple children? It doesn't matter if the kids are citizens, the only thing that matters is the parents want to live here, but CAN'T WORK. The employer sanctions law went into effect today. If they can't work, how do they support themselves. If the kids are on welfare, that is supposed to be used for the kids, not to support 2 grown adults, pay their rent, buy their clothes and other necessities, buy food for everyone, it's supposed to be for the kids only. So if they "win" and keep them here, then what? They still can't take care of the kids, so isn't that considered child neglect? At that point, shouldn't CPS step in? Normally, wouldn't CPS try to help the parents become self-sufficient? In this case it's simply impossible for them to be self-sufficient in AZ so really there is no choice but force them back to Mexico. Are these groups just going to take care of the whole bunch of them forever? Are they going to take care of the illegal parents until they are 80-something and pass away? THEY CAN'T WORK ANYMORE. THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEXICO WHERE THEY WON'T WORK AND AZ WHERE THEY CAN'T WORK? Why can't these groups get that into their heads?

They just keep having more kids to get more welfare. They also receive charity care from churches, food pantries, etc.

ICE did the right thing.

Originally Posted by miguelina

Originally Posted by Steph

How do these groups that are protesting expect the mother or the father to be able to support themselves or their mulitiple children? It doesn't matter if the kids are citizens, the only thing that matters is the parents want to live here, but CAN'T WORK. The employer sanctions law went into effect today. If they can't work, how do they support themselves. If the kids are on welfare, that is supposed to be used for the kids, not to support 2 grown adults, pay their rent, buy their clothes and other necessities, buy food for everyone, it's supposed to be for the kids only. So if they "win" and keep them here, then what? They still can't take care of the kids, so isn't that considered child neglect? At that point, shouldn't CPS step in? Normally, wouldn't CPS try to help the parents become self-sufficient? In this case it's simply impossible for them to be self-sufficient in AZ so really there is no choice but force them back to Mexico. Are these groups just going to take care of the whole bunch of them forever? Are they going to take care of the illegal parents until they are 80-something and pass away? THEY CAN'T WORK ANYMORE. THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEXICO WHERE THEY WON'T WORK AND AZ WHERE THEY CAN'T WORK? Why can't these groups get that into their heads?

They just keep having more kids to get more welfare. They also receive charity care from churches, food pantries, etc.

ICE did the right thing.

I will look into it again, but the last I heard was that there is now a cap on the amount of benefits which can be received so it doesn't matter how many children they proceed to have....once you reach that limit, you get no more than that.

If memory serves, this was done at around the same time "welfare to work" was put into place and was fully intended to put an end to the "welfare baby" scheme.

Originally Posted by azwreath

I will look into it again, but the last I heard was that there is now a cap on the amount of benefits which can be received so it doesn't matter how many children they proceed to have....once you reach that limit, you get no more than that.

No more direct cash payments after the first child, but they still get food stamps, WIC, Medical, subsidized housing for each additional child. Food stamps, WIC, and subsidized housing can be traded on the black market for cash. Plus of course illegals qualify for it all since they use a fake name for working, thus have no reported income. Their attitude is if we are going to have four kids anyway, why not make the gringos pay for them.

I urge all of you to email the mayor and the TPD with our support of their enforcement action. If you're not from Tucson, mention how it makes the city safer for your vacation or future visit. Thanks