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    Inmates say prison made them watch Hillary Clinton’s speech, blacked out Donald Trump

    Felons ask to join Obama deportation amnesty case, be set free

    By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Updated: 5:38 p.m. on Thursday, September 8, 2016

    Federal convicts told a judge they were forced to watch Hillary Clinton’s convention speech at the
    federal prison where they’re being held — but said the prison imposed a blackout on Donald
    Trump’s speech, tuning the facility’s televisions to other channels.

    The felons are trying to join the federal case against President Obama’s 2014 deportation
    amnesty, saying that Mr. Obama is discriminating against U.S. citizens caught breaking the law by
    punishing them, even as he attempts to grant work permits and taxpayer-funded benefits to
    illegal immigrants.

    In filings in a federal court in Texas, the four female convicts — one of whom, in a bizarre twist, is serving time for smuggling illegal immigrants — said they need to be set free to fight their case. They said prison officials and other inmates are targeting them for their political beliefs, and particularly their support for Mr. Trump, the GOP presidential nominee.

    “On the night of Hillary Clinton’s acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention, special accommodations were made, where every television in the housing units were placed on the channel where her speech was televised,” the convicts said. But they said they were not allowed “a television to watch Mr. Donald Trump give his acceptance speech.”

    The women are being held at Federal Medical Center-Carswell in Fort Worth, Texas.

    The federal Bureau of Prisons refused to answer questions about the situation, insisting officials couldn’t comment because of the ongoing court case in Texas over Mr. Obama’s deportation amnesty.

    The women, however, said the prison — both officials and prisoners themselves — is overwhelmingly pro-Clinton, and they fear for their safety as Trump supporters. One of the four, Rhonda Ann Fleming, said she wrote a letter to the Trump campaign complaining about illegal immigration, and when she received a response, both prison employees and other prisoners accosted her “in a hostile manner.”

    “Every illegal alien prisoner at FMC Carswell states that as soon as they are released they are coming right back to the United States because President Obama and Hillary Clinton are not going to deport them,” the four women said.

    They are asking to be allowed to join the lawsuit against Mr. Obama’s deportation amnesty, which is pending in the court of Judge Andrew S. Hanen. Judge Hanen issued an injunction blocking the amnesty, and that has been upheld by an appeals court and, earlier this year, by the Supreme Court in a 4-4 tie ruling.

    The convicts say it is unfair that illegal immigrants who broke the law roam freely in the U.S., while they are incarcerated. They asked either to be released or sent to a halfway house while their case is pending.

    Judge Hanen has yet to rule on any of their requests.

    Lawyers for the government and some illegal immigrants granted three-year amnesties under Mr. Obama’s program oppose the women, saying they don’t have a case.

    “It is very likely that allowing intervention would lead to numerous additional frivolous filings and delays,” Nina Perales, a lawyer with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund who is representing illegal immigrants in the case, said in her reply brief.

    She also blasted Fleming, saying the woman is in prison for fraud and has a history of filing long shot cases that courts have rejected.

    Fleming is serving a 30-year sentence for Medicare fraud, while Raheleh Ziaei is serving eight months for drug possession, and Tammy Willis is serving six months for what she calls a property crime.

    The fourth convict, Robin Clarice Parezanin, is serving a 30-month sentence after she pleaded guilty to smuggling an illegal immigrant.

    According to federal agents, Parezanin was stopped at a border checkpoint on Interstate 8 in California in November, and agents became suspicious after her answers didn’t make sense. After some prodding, she finally opened the trunk of her Ford Mustang — and agents saw an illegal immigrant lying inside.

    One of the agents immediately slammed the trunk shut to keep the illegal immigrant from running away, but Parezanin sped off, leading agents and the California Highway Patrol on a 10-minute high-speed chase. She smashed into another car at a stoplight, then bailed out, where she was caught by the highway patrol.

    Meanwhile, agents captured the illegal immigrant, Jose Manuel Ochoa-Vega, who admitted he was from Mexico and had paid $3,000 to be smuggled into the U.S. Parezanin, in court documents, complained that she’s still in prison while Mr. Ochoa-Vega was set free and is back in Mexico.

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    Perhaps that is part of their punishment? Just seeing her ugly mug on tv is punishing to me.
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    But in support of our inmates, I must say that I totally support their lawsuit and their right to political information. We have huge injustice in our country, we do, that's a fact, and many inmates carry the brunt of that. When laws against citizens are enforced harshly and laws against illegal aliens aren't enforced AT ALL, then we have a HUUUGE criminal justice problem.

    That situation along with other situations of injustice is why I support inmates and felons the right to vote. There is no other way to keep the system honest if the people impacted by it have no say, voice or vote in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    But in support of our inmates, I must say that I totally support their lawsuit and their right to political information. We have huge injustice in our country, we do, that's a fact, and many inmates carry the brunt of that. When laws against citizens are enforced harshly and laws against illegal aliens aren't enforced AT ALL, then we have a HUUUGE criminal justice problem.

    That situation along with other situations of injustice is why I support inmates and felons the right to vote. There is no other way to keep the system honest if the people impacted by it have no say, voice or vote in it.
    I feel U.S. citizen prisoners lost their right to a say when they knowingly decided to participate in a criminal activity deemed serious enough to warrant incarceration. Once they've fully paid their lawfully assigned debt to society, I then have no problem with the restoration of their voting rights.

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    There's a lot of inequities in our criminal justice system and just because someone is in prison doesn't mean they're any different than many other people in free society, they just got caught and convicted. Most people arrested and serving time in US prisons are those who committed non-violent drug offenses while illegal aliens running the trade roam our land free as birds with federal protection. Oh wait, that's what this article is about.

    GO FELONS!!

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    Most people arrested and serving time in US prisons are those who committed non-violent drug offenses
    Absolutely not true.

    Excerpt:

    The most repeated falsehood about the criminal justice system – that our prisons are stuffed with non-violent drug offenders – had a repeat airing in an editorial in the “newspaper of record,” theNew York Times.

    The use of the term “nonviolent” stirs up an image of some poor individual who is locked up for 20 years to life because he had a little baggy of cocaine. The image causes us to believe in the inherent unfairness of a system that relies too heavily on incarceration, and not enough on drug treatment programs.

    The overwhelming majority of “nonviolent drug offenders” serving prison time are there because they were convicted of transporting or selling drugs. In other words, “nonviolent offender” is a polite and more politically palatable way of saying “drug dealer.” It is certainly harder to get the public worked up over the plight of drug dealers serving time. So here’s what the social engineers do: They follow the well-worn path of distorting the reality in order to affect public perception by changing the language used to describe the offender. Hence, they employ the “reformist” term that is less than truthful – “nonviolent” drug offender, a politically powerful skewing of the truth.

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    Your article just confirmed what I said. However, I'm more than happy to post again for probably the 30th time on this forum, the FBI statistics:

    Nationwide, law enforcement made an estimated 11,302,102 arrests in 2013. Of these arrests, 480,360 were for violent crimes, and 1,559,284 were for property crimes. (Note: the UCR Program does not collect data on citations for traffic violations.)

    The highest number of arrests were for drug abuse violations (estimated at 1,501,043 arrests), larceny-theft (estimated at 1,231,580), and driving under the influence (estimated at 1,166,824). (See Table 29.)
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...rsons-arrested
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Your article just confirmed what I said. However, I'm more than happy to post again for probably the 30th time on this forum, the FBI statistics:


    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...rsons-arrested
    You obviously failed to comprehend the information in the link I provided.

    The overwhelming majority of “nonviolent drug offenders” serving prison time are there because they were convicted of transporting or selling drugs. In other words, “nonviolent offender” is a polite and more politically palatable way of saying “drug dealer.”
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