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    Iowa: Agency head not eager for immigration debate

    AP Newsmaker: Agency head not eager for immigration debate
    Monday, December 24, 2007

    DES MOINES, Iowa - Many presidential candidates and even state lawmakers are eager to talk about illegal immigration.

    But don't expect the administrator of Iowa's Division of Latino Affairs to eagerly join in the debate.

    That's because Armando Villareal doesn't see much genuine discussion about the issue.

    In an interview with The Associated Press, Villareal argued that two words paralyze any chance for a real discussion about immigration in this country.

    One is "illegal."

    "As soon as you say that you've shut off discussion," Villareal said. "As soon as you say 'illegal' you're modifying the person and not the action, so now the person's a criminal."

    The other is "amnesty."

    "When you say 'amnesty' then you say you want to reward illegality so look at where the argument is placed at," he said.

    Villareal may be frustrated by the debate, but it seems to be only growing in intensity.

    Presidential candidates, especially Republicans, have made illegal immigration a key topic of their campaigns in Iowa and throughout the nation. Most Republicans call for tightening border security and working harder to deport immigrants in the country illegally.

    The issue also is expected to come up during Iowa's upcoming legislative session, with Democratic leaders saying they will crack down on employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

    Villareal, a fifth-generation Texan who moved to Iowa two years ago, declines to identify himself as anything other than simply "American."

    He said he saw the Iowa job as a chance to have real impact on an emerging Hispanic community.

    "It was frontier stuff," he said. "I felt Iowans could be a guiding light for the rest of the country. (In) Texas the divisions are so deep."

    In his job, Villareal has tried to be the go-to expert on all things Hispanic, offering help for state officials and individual Iowans alike.

    He points to a variety of factors that have influenced immigration trends, including the North American Free Trade Agreement and the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, which tied the issue to terrorism.

    Most recently, Villareal said the issue has arisen as middle-class Americans became more worried about the movement of jobs overseas _ he sees it as politicians creating a "boogie man."

    Villareal said such suspicions are misplaced.

    "The easiest thing to do is to work at the fear that already exists because it's an emotion," he said. "To educate takes more time and more resource, and the culture that we live in doesn't permit that," he said.

    Still, politicians have emphasized the issue, he said, eclipsing concerns about issues such as the Iraq war and a still evolving mortgage crisis.

    "What I've discovered in political campaigns is sometimes when you don't want to talk about the real stuff you create something else to talk about," he said.

    Villareal said he'll participate in the precinct caucuses, but the candidates' immigration stands will make little difference to whom he'll opt to support.

    "I think there's a lot of insincerity going on, disingenuous insincerity going on on both sides, all the way around," he said.

    Given federal failure to act and the persistent political attention given to immigration, Villareal said he's not surprised that Iowa lawmakers are pushing for a crackdown at the state level. But he said attempts by states to deal with the matter reflect the fragmented nature of immigration policy.

    "It's done in silos, it's done in isolation and it's done for (a) quick fix."

    Instead, state and local authorities should urge federal leaders to act, Villareal said, adding that such action must include participation by leaders in Canada and Mexico.

    "All this energy should be forced on getting the national leadership to overhaul immigration," he said. "It's going to take at least the countries involved in NAFTA to fix it. We can't do it in isolation. The failure of the federal government forces the local government to do something and they do it with a disconnect. We've gotten ourselves into a hysteria."

    It's essential, Villareal said, that the nation get it right.

    "What's at stake is how our character has been defined since (the) founding of our country and how we want it to be defined as we move forward," he said. "How we handle and define ourselves as a country in dealing with this question of immigration and other problems facing us is a further definition."

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    The same old EliteSpeak makes me want to puke.

    Our laws are not being obeyed. The only reform is to uphold our laws.

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    I only have two words to say.


    Illegal.
    Amnesty.

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    One is "illegal."

    "As soon as you say that you've shut off discussion," Villareal said. "As soon as you say 'illegal' you're modifying the person and not the action, so now the person's a criminal."
    They are both illegal, the person is not a legal citizen of the U.S. there for he/she is illegal....the act of entering this country with out permission is illegal, there for it is a ciminal act.....I wonder where these people go to school!

    The other is "amnesty."
    "When you say 'amnesty' then you say you want to reward illegality so look at where the argument is placed at," he said.
    The argument is placed just where it should be...Amnesty is rewarding someone for breaking the law! Period.

    Instead, state and local authorities should urge federal leaders to act, Villareal said, adding that such action must include participation by leaders in Canada and Mexico.
    We don't need Canada and Mexico helping us decide what is best for our country, get it Our country, We are still a soverenign nation.
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    No amnesty for illegal aliens. Period.
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    what a moron.

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    In an interview with The Associated Press, Villareal argued that two words paralyze any chance for a real discussion about immigration in this country.

    One is "illegal."

    "As soon as you say that you've shut off discussion," Villareal said. "As soon as you say 'illegal' you're modifying the person and not the action, so now the person's a criminal."
    For the millionth time, the PERSON became ILLEGAL by the ACTION of entering this country by criminal means and undoubtly remaining here by committing further ILLEGAL acts. Does this make any more sense.....'As soon as you say killer you're modifying the person and not the action, so now the person is a criminal'.

    The other is "amnesty."

    "When you say 'amnesty' then you say you want to reward illegality.....
    Only thing he said that is true.

    Given federal failure to act and the persistent political attention given to immigration, Villareal said he's not surprised that Iowa lawmakers are pushing for a crackdown at the state level. But he said attempts by states to deal with the matter reflect the fragmented nature of immigration policy.

    "It's done in silos, it's done in isolation and it's done for (a) quick fix."

    Instead, state and local authorities should urge federal leaders to act, Villareal said, adding that such action must include participation by leaders in Canada and Mexico.

    "All this energy should be forced on getting the national leadership to overhaul immigration," he said. "It's going to take at least the countries involved in NAFTA to fix it. We can't do it in isolation. The failure of the federal government forces the local government to do something and they do it with a disconnect. We've gotten ourselves into a hysteria."
    Villareal says immigration needs to be fixed and Mexico and Canada, the countries involved in NAFTA, need to participate in drafting US immigration law. If Villareal is a citizen he needs to be tried for treason.

    "First of all, the so-called War on Terror isn’t a war on terror at all, it’s a war on the Constitution and Bill of Rights; a war on the rights of the American people." Lynn Stuter, researcher, analyst
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    The Register (i.e. The Des Moines Register') has created a database of state employees based on electronic files used for the annual printing of the state salary book. The salary information is based on Fiscal years 2006 & 2007.
    Fiscal Year: 2006 Last Name: Villareal Armando L
    Department: Human Rights Position: Admin/latino Affairs Div
    County: Polk Gender: M
    July Salary: $53,040.00
    Annual Salary: $29,645.03
    Travel Expense: $6,664.35


    http://data.desmoinesregister.com/resul ... t=&county=

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    Nafta doesn't have anything to do with illegal immigration like this guy said, unless there's something in that trade agreement that we all missed. And this guy refusing to talk about the issue when the words "illegal" and "amnesty" are brought up, is the growing attitude of the OBL's. They want "illegal" off the table of discussion so our government will give "amnesty" to anyone who walks into our country without permission. I've got news for these jerks. They may close their eyes right now, but sooner or later they are all going to have to face this problem of "illegal" aliens.
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    Roger Hedgecock LIVE in Iowa

    Roger will be in Iowa on the eve of the Iowa caucuses as the 2008 presidential primary season officially begins. Live from Des Moines Dec. 27th, 28th 3pm-6pm and on Saturday, Dec 29th 9am-Noon.

    KOGO's Roger Hedgecock will be broadcasting live from the site of the first stop on the 2008 presidential primary calendar as the Republican and Democratic Party candidates begin go fight it out for the nomination.

    Roger will be leading a series of talk show host broadcasts from around the country at a special Talk Radio Row organized by F.A.I.R., the Federation for American Immigration Reform.



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