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    How will people using this software ever know if and when they're victims of fraud? Unless you know the tax system better than the software, I don't see how you would. Same with these tax filing companies, how do you know what they're doing with your information or if they're even filing your taxes or someone else's right? Again, unless you know the system better than they do, how would you know one way or the other? These softwares and tax filers are responsible for processing most of the returns that result in the EITC being wrongfully and unlawfully issued to people who aren't eligible for it, people here in violation of US immigration law working illegally, earning illegally, filing for refunds illegally when they didn't pay any tax. The whole income tax system is a mess wrought with fraud, discrimination, violations and corruption. Why anyone would prefer it over consumption or sales taxes is totally beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    How will people using this software ever know if and when they're victims of fraud? . . .
    If you attempt to file your taxes and the I.R.S. says your taxes have already been filed you know you were a victim of fraud.

    In Minnesota, for example, some taxpayers recently logged into TurboTax, and saw that a return has already been filed under their name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    . . . Same with these tax filing companies, how do you know . . . if they're even filing your taxes . . .
    If you get your refund check from the I.R.S. you know they filed your taxes. If you don't, you and the I.R.S. start checking into the missing tax return. You show the I.R.S. your receipt and/or canceled check for the tax preparation and they want an explanation from the tax preparer.

    If you get a nasty letter, or a nice letter, from the I.R.S. about mistakes in your tax filling you know they got it and it wasn't done right. Then the I.R.S. goes after them for doing their work wrong.

    The I.R.S. once sent me a letter saying there was a mistake in my tax paperwork.
    They corrected the mistake the C.P.A. had made and sent me a larger refund check than I was expecting.


    I went back to the C.P.A. and demanded, and got, a full refund.
    I told him I could have done my taxes incorrectly for free so I sure wasn't going to pay him to do them incorrectly.
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    PTIN Requirements for Tax Return Preparers

    Preparer tax identification number (PTIN) applications and renewals for 2015 are now being processed.

    Anyone who prepares or assists in preparing federal tax returns for compensation must have a valid 2015 PTIN before preparing returns. All enrolled agents must also have a PTIN.

    NEW! - The Annual Filing Season Program aims to recognize the efforts of non-credentialed return preparers who aspire to a higher level of professionalism. Interested? Learn more. If you passed the Registered Tax Return Preparer test, be sure to check it out.
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    http://time.com/money/3419136/identi...er-tax-return/

    More than $5 billion, with a B: that’s how much the IRS estimates it mistakenly paid to identity thieves last year, according to a new study from the Government Accountability Office. The thieves filed fraudulent tax returns on behalf of unsuspecting citizens, and the IRS didn’t catch the fraud until after long after the refund checks had been sent. The only good news? It could have been a lot more money. The IRS estimates it identified and stopped another $24.2 billion in attempted fraud — but the agency acknowledges it’s hard to calculate the full extent of the problem.
    Still, the danger could be growing: As recently as 2010, tax- and wage-related identity theft made up just 16% of all ID-theft complaints at the Federal Trade Commission. Last year that portion rose to 43%. Below are four more common ways ID thieves can strike — and what you can do to protect yourself.
    It looks like it's a growing problem, rising in just 3 years from 16% in 2010 to 43% in 2013 of all ID-theft complaints at the Federal Trade Commission. And now all these states having problems for returns for last year. I've always used CPA's, but they're expensive and it's a lot of work just gathering up all the information they need to do the returns. Personally, I hate it and always have, so that's another reason I love the FairTax which does away with all this. Under the FairTax, all anyone is left with to do is if you're a retail business, filing the monthly gross sales report with the states including the FairTax which is calculated from the same gross sales information the states use and is reported on the same form once a month, plus the FairTax system pays the retail business a pretty nice fee for collecting the tax in this manner. It's such a superior system in my view for so many reasons.
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