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    Houston - Cleanup spurs labor need for ILLEGALS?

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    Cleanup spurs labor need
    Undocumented workers will be linchpin in efforts

    By JENALIA MORENO and SUSAN CARROLL Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
    Sept. 25, 2008, 7:12AM


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    Thoughts on the slower rate of immigration All across southeast Texas, roofs need repair, debris must be discarded and towns hope to rebuild.

    Hurricane Ike's destruction is sparking one of the largest rebuilding efforts the state has seen in decades, but at the same time is highlighting a thorny facet of the region's labor force: A lot of the recovery work will be done by illegal immigrants.

    Homeowners have already turned to day laborers — many of whom are undocumented — to help clear brush, tent roofs and repair other storm damage. Contractors have hired them to rebuild or restore businesses and the city's infrastructure.

    And the major work of rebuilding small towns along the Gulf Coast or big homes in Galveston will likely be aided by undocumented workers.

    But this tug and pull of the labor force highlights an uneasy dilemma: The region needs the muscle of undocumented immigrants, but simultaneously is a cog in a broader crackdown of illegal immigrants at worksites.

    "There's just no mechanism in place right now to provide those important laborers work authorization," said Leigh Ganchan, a Houston immigration attorney with Haynes and Boone. "It's a shame that employers can't tap into a whole segment of society that's willing and capable to provide those services. Our nation is more vulnerable than it would like to admit, I think. Vulnerable, meaning we need people to help us rebuild our infrastructure after major disasters like this."

    Carlos González, Mexico's consul general in Houston, expects the area's existing immigrant population will do the rebuilding work, a key difference with what happened post-Katrina. New Orleans experienced an influx of Hispanic immigrants because it did not have as large of an immigrant population as Houston.

    "You will find the immigrant community — as they always have — will play a very big role," said Laura Murillo, president of the Houston Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

    However, Americans devastated by the storm should have the option of doing the rebuilding, said Ira Mehlman, spokesman for a Washington, D.C.-group that seeks to stop illegal immigration.

    "Those people should have first crack at the reconstruction jobs," said Mehlman with the Federation for American Immigration Reform. "I'm sure there are an awful lot of people who can use the jobs and use the paychecks to get themselves back on their feet."

    The looming demand for immigrant labor for rebuilding efforts illustrates how dependent Texas industry and commerce are on undocumented workers.

    According to a 2006 study by the Greater Houston Partnership, construction is the largest employer of undocumented workers in the city, employing nearly 36,000 people.

    "The storm hasn't done anything but point out again how badly these workers are needed and how much they contribute," said Angela Blanchard, president and chief executive officer of Neighborhood Centers Inc.

    Chase Duhon, with an Austin-based company that contracted to remove brush and debris across Houston, said he's having trouble finding legal local workers to help with hurricane cleanup. He posted an ad online to find more workers.

    "We don't hire anyone who's illegal," said Duhon, a Houston native. "We want to keep it local. We want to use people here in Texas, but there's so much work, there are people coming from Michigan and Massachusetts."

    Paralyzed by politics, immigration reform has yet to be approved by Congress despite years of hot debate. Supporters of reforms — such as a guest worker program — say storms like Ike prove how hard it is for employers to fill certain jobs.

    "We need the labor. These people want to work," said Norman Adams, co-founder of Texans for Sensible Immigration Reform and president of Adams Insurance Service. "I don't think anybody has enough workers here."

    Adams said the contractor repairing his water-damaged office building in the Heights area after the storm hired immigrant workers.

    Honduran immigrant Esteban Valle, 49, said construction work has picked up since Ike hit.

    "I think there's more work," said Valle, a legal permanent resident who previously lived in Dallas. "But it's easier for me because I have papers."

    At one of the city's most popular day labor sites, the competition was stiff, with those skilled in trades like roof repair and hanging plaster wallboard often getting picked first.

    "It's difficult because we don't have papers, and there are so many people," said 22-year-old Emanuel Hernandez, an undocumented immigrant from southern Mexico, gesturing to three dozen men gathered at the corner of Shepherd Drive and 11th.

    Staff writer Jim Pinkerton contributed to this report.

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    Until Americans in large numbers can once again find employment in construction, it seems that the need for illegals during natural disasters might be necessary (I hate to say it). At least in certain parts of the country where the illegals live, and the Americans are engaged more in white collar work.

    Is anyone on here from Texas who has experience with natural disasters from, say, 30 years ago? How were the cleanups handled back then?

    So, what is the solution to the cleanup of this storm? And to future storms? Say one year from now another one hits in Texas? How should the cleanup proceed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOstrich
    Until Americans in large numbers can once again find employment in construction, it seems that the need for illegals during natural disasters might be necessary (I hate to say it). At least in certain parts of the country where the illegals live, and the Americans are engaged more in white collar work.

    Is anyone on here from Texas who has experience with natural disasters from, say, 30 years ago? How were the cleanups handled back then?

    So, what is the solution to the cleanup of this storm? And to future storms? Say one year from now another one hits in Texas? How should the cleanup proceed?

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    30 years ago the construction business was cpmprised of Americans. The clean ups after hurricanes was done by Americans. Unfortunately for the Chronicle, most of us here in Houston got off our butts since we were off work for so long and cleaned up our own mess. The only people I saw using what I figured were illegals were those who lived in million dollar homes.
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    Well, that helps clear up things a bit. Thanks bigtex.

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    Well, here's the problem:

    The region needs the muscle of undocumented immigrants
    The region needs muscle from AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
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    I agree, Americans can perfectly handle our own cleanup. We do not need illegals for anything except to send them home. I am in construction and I just came finished a job. I had to replace shingle, clean mortar, pull boards and fix about 500 nail holes in the shingles. This was done by a crew of illegal brick masons. These guys did have the least idea of what they were doing. These are 30 year shingles just put on and the holes in them voids the warranty. Whoever hires illegals in the construction industry for cheap wages get exactly what they pay for.

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    "We don't hire anyone who's illegal," said Duhon, a Houston native. "We want to keep it local. We want to use people here in Texas, but there's so much work, there are people coming from Michigan and Massachusetts."




    Point proven!!! Americans who need that work will come from all points across the US to do that work!!

    It has always been like that within the construction industry. Heck, I can even recall when I was little and the man who lived across the street spent much of his time working on out of state construction projects in North Carolina, as did his two brothers. They liked it so much they all eventually moved their families there.

    My relatives who worked in various construction trades, were always, it seemed, off to one place or another to work on construction projects.

    When Atlantic City was going through the huge transformation there were workers from all different states staying in our area and we lived 40 minutes away.

    With the gross unemployment of Americans driven out of these jobs by illegal aliens, NOBODY can legitimately say that they cannot find Americans wanting this work. NOBODY!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by loneprotester
    I agree, Americans can perfectly handle our own cleanup. We do not need illegals for anything except to send them home. I am in construction and I just came finished a job. I had to replace shingle, clean mortar, pull boards and fix about 500 nail holes in the shingles. This was done by a crew of illegal brick masons. These guys did have the least idea of what they were doing. These are 30 year shingles just put on and the holes in them voids the warranty. Whoever hires illegals in the construction industry for cheap wages get exactly what they pay for.
    All of the sudden we have truck loads of illegals riding around in pickups that will fix anything. Lawn mowers that are all of the sudden masons, dry wallers, roofers, carpenters and electricians. No telling how many people will get either scammed out of maney or get very shoddy jobs done when they hire them.

    If my insurance company sends illegals to repair the damage on my home I am going to run them off. I want my investment fixed properly and by Americans.
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