Thread: La Raza on Lou Dobbs

YES NOT POSTED YET. THAT IS VERY STRANG BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING IT MENTIONS THE INTERVIEW. BUT THE INTERVIEW WITHE LARAZA IS NOT INCLUDED. THERE MUST BE A REASON. IS LA RAZA THREATENING TO SUE THEM OR SOMETHING? I DONT KNOW BUT SOMETHING IS UP WITH THIS. WONDER IF THERE IS VIDEO OF THE INTERVIEW???

The guy she quoted, Hal Turner, is a White Nationalist or something. He is NOWHERE near the vast majority of talk-radio hosts who helped kill this bill. I also would like her to answer the question Lou asked repeatedly. THE NUMBER of radio hosts who made statements like that. She was just going for shock-value. Typical multi-culti propagandist BS.

SORRY. I THOUGHT I FOUND IT ON YOUTUBE, BUT IN WATCHING IT I REALIZED IT MUST BE AN OLD INTERVIEW.

Originally Posted by greasemonkey

I had to work a little late and missed it.

Can anybody post it online?

Greasemonkey if you can record it, it comes on again 1am pacific time then you can watch it tomorrow. Don't know where you live so remember that is pacific time, adjust the time and record it was well worth, he really let oh Janet. have it

Saw it too and Lou was great.
I think he felt more fired up because of that 'hate' statement La Raza made re talk radio, way over the top!

That's a funny avitar Faye!

Originally Posted by CCUSA

Welcome to ALIPAC SOFFIA66!

That is very strange not to have the entire transcript.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH
HERE IS THE TRANSCRIPT I BELIEVE IN FULL NOW..........

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DOBBS: The nation's largest Hispanic activist group continues to push its amnesty agenda. At its annual meeting in Miami this week, the National Council of La Raza blamed what it termed "a wave of hate" for the defeat of the grand bargain on illegal immigration.

The president and CEO of the National Council of La Raza, Janet Murguia, joins me now from Miami.

Good to have you with us, Janet.

JANET MURGUIA, PRESIDENT & CEO, NATIONAL COUNCIL OF LA RAZA: Thanks, Lou.

DOBBS: Your conference -- first, give me your most important, in your judgment, accomplishment this week.

MURGUIA: Well, I think we did a lot. We had a major workshop in which we brought in a number of folks to come and learn how to become citizens. And we actually helped them process their paperwork so they could leave that workshop ready to apply for citizenship.

DOBBS: Well, good...

MURGUIA: So we're doing our part to make sure that we're promoting citizenship at the National Council of La Raza. We think it's very important...

DOBBS: I agree...

MURGUIA: ...for folks and newcomers to make that step.

DOBBS: Oh, I think it's very important, indeed.

Congratulations to those who have joined us as American citizens.

MURGUIA: The other -- the other key point, Lou, is civic engagement. We are encouraging so many to -- including the Hispanic community -- to make sure that not only are we naturalizing folks so that they can become citizens, but that we encourage people to participate in the voting process and in our...

DOBBS: Well, I'll tell you...

MURGUIA: ...and in our democracy so that they can...

DOBBS: You and I may have argue about a lot of points on illegal immigration and border security. But one thing you and I are going to agree about every time is participatory democracy and the engagement of our citizens in the political process at every level.

MURGUIA: Well, it's a key...

DOBBS: Janet, let...

MURGUIA: It's a key priority for us. So, thank you.

DOBBS: Well, I think it's a key priority for all Americans, particularly with the choices we have coming up in 2008.

Let's turn to this statement by, is it your senior vice president, Munoz, who said that a wave of hate by radio talk show hosts is what killed the amnesty legislation?

MURGUIA: I think she was it was a factor. And it was. I don't think...

DOBBS: Well, actually, no. She said -- she said it was the reason.

MURGUIA: Well, I think what we meant to say is that it was a significant factor in, I think, changing the nature of the debate. And I've got a quote here from New Jersey-based radio host, Hal Turner, Lou, just to give you a sense of the sentiment that we saw and the wave that we heard.

"All of you" -- this is from Hal Turner -- "who think there is a peaceful solution to these invaders are wrong. We're going to have to start killing these people. I advocate using extreme violence against illegal aliens. Clean your guns. Have plenty of ammunition."

That's one quote.

I can give you a few others if you want me to go through...

DOBBS: Well...

MURGUIA: Neal Boortz with...

DOBBS: Well, the fact is that -- what's the guy's name, Hal Turner?

MURGUIA: That's correct.

DOBBS: Does he still have a job?

MURGUIA: He's a New York -- a New Jersey-based radio host, yes.

DOBBS: Wow!

That is outrageous.

MURGUIA: So I just want you to understand...

DOBBS: And it's -- that's contemptible. That's all there is to that.

MURGUIA: Well, well that's what...

DOBBS: But you said -- but Munoz said a wave of hate. You know, as far as I'm concerned...

MURGUIA: Well, I could keep going, Lou.

DOBBS: Well, you could keep going...

MURGUIA: I could keep going with more quotes.

DOBBS: ...but we're not going to be able to talk if you keep going.

MURGUIA: OK. Well, I just want to make sure you understand...

DOBBS: OK.

Well, how many people...

MURGUIA: ...there is a significant...

DOBBS: ...are you talking about?

MURGUIA: Well, I think it was just -- there was a...

DOBBS: How many people? How many talk show hosts?

MURGUIA: It's a culture within the...

DOBBS: Oh, no, no, no. Don't give me the culture stuff.

MURGUIA: Yes.

DOBBS: You guys talked about a wave of hate. MURGUIA: That's right.

DOBBS: I want to hear. That's an extraordinary example.

MURGUIA: Sure.

DOBBS: I will guarantee you it's the exception to...

MURGUIA: No, it's...

DOBBS: And I talk with radio talk show hosts...

MURGUIA: No...

DOBBS: ...on this broadcast all the time.

MURGUIA: Well, Neal Boortz...

DOBBS: (INAUDIBLE).

MURGUIA: Neal Boortz from Georgia, also on the radio...

DOBBS: Well, Janet, I've got to -- you know...

MURGUIA: ...gave...

DOBBS: ...you can publicize these folks until, you know, until the cows come home.

MURGUIA: Well, you're -- you're challenging us.

DOBBS: No, I'm not challenging you.

MURGUIA: Lou, you are challenging us to say...

DOBBS: I'm asking to you tell me how many people, in your judgment, make up a wave of hate?

MURGUIA: There are several radio station jocks...

DOBBS: OK.

MURGUIA: Radio jocks -- disk jockeys...

DOBBS: (INAUDIBLE). That's good enough.

MURGUIA: ...who are promoting this sentiment.

DOBBS: Well, I condemn them...

MURGUIA: And it's not...

DOBBS: ...and I find them contemptible and I think...

MURGUIA: OK.

DOBBS: ...you will find nearly every American does.

MURGUIA: OK, well, then we agree that there was...

DOBBS: No, we agree that those people are contemptible.

MURGUIA: There was a sentiment, OK...

DOBBS: But Munoz used the expression a wave of hate.

MURGUIA: Well, let your viewers be the judge.

DOBBS: No. I'm just...

MURGUIA: I can...

DOBBS: I'm talking to you.

MURGUIA: Well...

DOBBS: I'll be the judge of my views...

MURGUIA: OK.

DOBBS: ...and you be the judge of yours.

MURGUIA: OK.

Well, I'm saying...

DOBBS: How in the world is that a wave of hate and why are we having even a discussion?

You are too bright of a lady.

MURGUIA: Did you hear that quote? It wasn't the only kind of -- quote of its kind, Lou.

DOBBS: Did you hear what you said?

You said a few radio stations.

MURGUIA: No. I said several of the radio disc jockey hosts were promoting this kind of rhetoric.

DOBBS: OK.

Well...

MURGUIA: ...were promoting this kind of rhetoric and it's a negative...

DOBBS: This is...

MURGUIA: ...rhetoric that...

DOBBS: Janet, I have to tell you, this is beneath the dignity of your organization to do this.

MURGUIA: Well...

DOBBS: Do you really believe that those radio talk show hosts, those several, as you put it -- I misquoted you, I said a few, you said several -- constitute a wave of hate?

Do you really, as an organization, a political organization, a social activist organization, really believe that this was an expression of the will of American citizens, Hispanic, black, white, Asian, whatever?

MURGUIA: I'm saying that radio station disc jockeys were promoting this kind of rhetoric and it added a negative element and the negative outcome to this debate.

DOBBS: Good lord, Janet, we have heard so many negative elements from the idiotic extremes from this debate -- the idiotic extremes on both sides of this debate.

This is not a -- this is news to you.

MURGUIA: Well, I want to make sure. You asked us to explain the comment. I think it's real out there, Lou. And our folks or feeling it.

And you know what?

People aren't making distinctions between immigrants and, in many cases, Hispanics. DOBBS: Yes. Right.

MURGUIA: ...because they see...

DOBBS: Oh, Janet...

MURGUIA: ...very little lines between how they identify the difference.

DOBBS: Janet...

MURGUIA: Lou, there was a local ordinance just passed in Prince William County...

DOBBS: Yes.

MURGUIA: ...and it says that they're going to really look into anyone -- they're going to attempt to stop anyone who they suspect to be an undocumented...

DOBBS: What would you have...

MURGUIA: ...or an illegal...

DOBBS: What would you have them do, Janet?

People have entered this country illegally... MURGUIA: I would have them pass a law at the federal level...

DOBBS: Oh, yes.

MURGUIA: ...that will deal with this issue in a comprehensive way.

DOBBS: Well...

MURGUIA: That's the only way. Doing this local, state or (INAUDIBLE)...

You mean the one that was just defeated?

MURGUIA: I'm talking about -- yes, we need to continue to have...

DOBBS: You think that was a good law?

MURGUIA: ...leadership -- we need to have -- well, no, it was a law that should have gone on and gone to the House and it should received more debate.

DOBBS: Yes.

MURGUIA: It should have received more attention. And we should have tried to get...

DOBBS: Janet, here's...

MURGUIA: ...immigration law in this country.

DOBBS: Here are the realities. And it's what socio-ethnic centric activist groups like yours are going to have to contend with. It's what the Chamber of Commerce and those business elites in this country are going to have to contend with. It's what our political elites are going to have to contend with.

The American people, of all races, of all quarters of the country, are awakening to the reality of what illegal immigration is, its source, the reasons for it and the interests of those groups supporting amnesty, open borders. And it's not going to be a simple game anymore.

MURGUIA: But, Lou, let me call on that. Lou, we do not support open borders.

DOBBS: Yes.

MURGUIA: And you have to be careful how you're using...

DOBBS: Well, let me...

MURGUIA: ...your facts, OK?

DOBBS: ...let me explain to you how you support open borders.

MURGUIA: I do not support open borders.

DOBBS: You called for the passage of this legislation. It would have left -- 25 percent of illegal immigration would have been curtailed. Not a single one of the so-called triggers had to be in effect for amnesty to be put forward.

MURGUIA: Lou, this bill would have gone...

DOBBS: This administration...

MURGUIA: ...gone a long way to promoting a lot of enforcement -- a lot of enforcement provisions, a lot of security provisions and you it.

DOBBS: Where -- yes, well, I know what the General Accounting...

MURGUIA: And one of the reasons...

DOBBS: Here, let's go with the General -- the Congressional Budget Office, which stipulated point blank -- and not a single Senator of either party, the leadership or White House, had any reason to doubt it, because this nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said that 75 percent of illegal immigration will continue under the terms of that proposed legislation.

MURGUIA: Lou...

DOBBS: Period.

MURGUIA: I have to. Look, we have -- we have a disagreement on what that bill would have done...

DOBBS: Well, those are facts.

MURGUIA: ...and it was...

DOBBS: What -- we can have different views, but we can't have different facts, can we?

MURGUIA: Well, yes, sometimes we can, Lou.

DOBBS: All right...

MURGUIA: I know that -- well, look, on one of your shows, you talked about that the fact that an illegal aliens or undocumented aliens were promoting leprosy.

DOBBS: I did not.

MURGUIA: And that was disputed.

DOBBS: Wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's an absolute falsehood.

MURGUIA: Well...

DOBBS: That's a lie and that is beneath you. What we said was the National Leprosy...

MURGUIA: "60 Minutes"...

DOBBS: No, no. Excuse me.

MURGUIA: ..."60 Minutes" brought that out.

DOBBS: Excuse me.

MURGUIA: That's not me.

DOBBS: Excuse me.

MURGUIA: That's not me, Lou.

DOBBS: No, that's you. These are your words.

MURGUIA: But "60 Minutes"...

DOBBS: These are your words, Janet. What we said in an eight second comment two-and-a-half years ago -- which by the way, is exactly true -- is there are 7,000 cases of leprosy on the National Registry...

MURGUIA: There's no record of that.

DOBBS: For Hanson's Disease.

MURGUIA: There's no record of that. Even the...

DOBBS: Well, we will...

MURGUIA: ...the United States Health Department...

DOBBS: Would you please turn...

MURGUIA: Disputed that.

DOBBS: Would you like...

MURGUIA: There is a dispute on that and they never have said that.

DOBBS: Janet, we are engaged now. I love it, baby, because, you know what?

The gloves are off. We're going to deal with facts and the facts are precisely what I said they are.

MURGUIA: Well, while...

DOBBS: And you go check with the CDC and with the...

MURGUIA: ...they're disputed...

DOBBS: No, no. MURGUIA: Well, you're...

DOBBS: You dispute them and that...

MURGUIA: Look, I have to say it...

DOBBS: And that -- you'd have them -- you have them.

MURGUIA: That's not the case. And we can let your viewers go...

DOBBS: Well, I'm afraid you're...

MURGUIA: ...to the United States Department of Health and they can see for themselves.

DOBBS: Well (INAUDIBLE)...

MURGUIA: ...that that is not the case.

DOBBS: We will be glad to put those numbers up on our Web site and on this show.

MURGUIA: Well, and we'll be glad to quote the United States Department of Health.

DOBBS: Please, would you do that?

MURGUIA: ...and show that that is not what it...

DOBBS: And what if...

MURGUIA: ...shows.

DOBBS: And what do you say those numbers are?

MURGUIA: But we have to stick to the main issue here.

DOBBS: No, no...

MURGUIA: ...Lou.

DOBBS: I want you on the record.

MURGUIA: Well, I'm on...

DOBBS: I want you to tell us that the federal government will dispute...

MURGUIA: I'm here -- Lou.

DOBBS: ...our number.

MURGUIA: I'm here. I'm here. I'm on the record. And I'm telling you...

DOBBS: Seven thousand. MURGUIA: And I'm telling you...

DOBBS: What's your number?

What's your number, Janet?

MURGUIA: There is no record -- there is no way that...

DOBBS: OK.

Janet...

MURGUIA: ...the United States Department of Health can document that.

DOBBS: ...in this one, like I said, we can't choose the facts...

MURGUIA: They do not document that.

DOBBS: They've got to all be together.

MURGUIA: They do not document that -- Lou.

DOBBS: Yes, they do.

MURGUIA: And I'm sorry...

DOBBS: I'm sorry, they do.

MURGUIA: I know you're pulling that out of there, but, look, the main issue is that we need to solve this...

DOBBS: Janet, you have to support what you're saying here...

MURGUIA: I am.

DOBBS: ...because we are going to be relentless in demanding that you do so.

MURGUIA: I absolutely...

DOBBS: OK.

MURGUIA: I've been here...

DOBBS: OK. We have taken the "New York Times"...

MURGUIA: I've come...

DOBBS: ...and "60 Minutes" and the Southern Poverty Law Center to task time and time again for their utter nonsense.

MURGUIA: OK. Well...

DOBBS: And we will again.

MURGUIA: ...that's fine.

DOBBS: OK.

MURGUIA: The bottom line here, Lou, is we still...

DOBBS: La Raza, we join you...

MURGUIA: ...need comprehensive...

DOBBS: we join you. We join you in a wonderful discussion of facts and a concern for this nation and the common good, for all of our citizens.

Can we...

MURGUIA: OK.

DOBBS: Can we conclude on that one?

MURGUIA: Absolutely.

DOBBS: Bless your heart.

MURGUIA: OK.

DOBBS: Thank you, Janet.

MURGUIA: Thanks.

DOBBS: Janet Murguia, president of La Raza.

Up next, rising concern about the threat to our middle class.

We'll have that story and more.

Stay with us.


I WISH I HAD THAT HATE PAGE FOR ME CH (whatever the name is ) i'd send it to dobbs.......

Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen

Glad to hear it. I wish there was a video of it.

Is this the correct one?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PVJWZuBYDN8

I'd still like to know the exact number of radio DJs that made those racist remarks. I'm guessing it's under 10.

I would have liked to hear the exact number of quotes she had from radio hosts who made "hate" remarks. I'll bet it is posted on the Laraza website.

I saw that interview and Lou was ready for the interuptions and lies from the racist and he kicked her butt. It was great...I loved it.

The real racists are upset that the immigration bill was killed and it bothers them...good. They are resorting to calling U.S. just what they are.

Lou is a great American and this time he took his gloves off.

I say to the racists: Come on get em up!