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    Lawmakers compete to carry President's mantle on DACA as talks continu

    Tal Kopan

    January 10, 2018

    Washington (CNN)If the "four pillars" that emerged out of the White House immigration meeting spurred anything Wednesday on Capitol Hill, it was a fresh PR strategy.


    A variety of competing factions continue to pursue their proposals on resolving the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, a policy President Donald Trump is seeking to end that protects from deportation young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children.

    As the lawmakers touted their proposals Wednesday, though, they made an effort to explain just how their own push is the one that meets the President's wishes -- even as all of them took different approaches. The marketing underscored how essential Trump's approval is to any deal -- and how much lawmakers believe he can still be convinced.

    Trump admin grapples with rise in border crossing numbers it once touted
    The White House meeting settled on four check boxes for Trump's signature, althoug he told lawmakers he'd sign whatever the group came up with:

    A fix for DACA recipients.

    Money for border security.

    Dealing with "chain migration" or family-based sponsorship.

    Ending the diversity lottery.

    As lawmakers sought to fill in the details Wednesday, they made sure to explain how their proposals related to the President's guidelines.

    A conservative plan


    A group of conservative leaders in the House unveiled their immigration bill, which includes a wish list of conservative requests and a number of provisions that would be nonstarters to Democrats and some moderate Republicans.
    In their news conference, Reps. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, Mike McCaul of Texas, Martha McSally of Arizona and Raul Labrador of Idaho all emphasized the President's mention of their work in Tuesday's meeting, with Goodlatte and McCaul characterizing it as blessing the bill as a "starting point."

    "The purpose of our legislation is pretty simple: It helps ... President Trump keep his promises to the American people to fix our broken immigration system," Labrador said, adding that a number of provisions that deal with interior immigration enforcement that are heavily controversial are actually under the category of border security, in his view.

    DACA negotiations full steam ahead despite ruling, sources say
    "Whether it's the border or the interior enforcement, which is a 'legal wall,' if you will, to ensure -- to stop the flow of illegal immigration into the country," Labrador said. "All those issues are needed for border security."

    A Senate group of conservatives who produced a proposal similar to the House group's released a joint statement making the same point -- that border security could encompass far-reaching immigration enforcement.

    "We feel it's important to recognize that border security is more than just infrastructure," Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley of Iowa, Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Sen. David Perdue of Georgia said in a joint statement. "Enforcement authorities must be improved so that federal law officers can protect law abiding American citizens and immigrants."


    Bipartisan options

    Bipartisan negotiators are also touting how their bills -- which are vastly different -- are executing the President's vision.

    Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Arizona, a key member of a bipartisan group of six senators negotiating with Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Illinois, has told reporters their group is working through a DACA, border security, diversity lottery and family migration deal, with perhaps an end to the diversity lottery in exchange for those visas going toward Temporary Protected Status recipients and the "chain migration" piece dealing only with the population of young immigrants affected by the bill, contrary to what other Republicans have said, which is that it must apply more broadly.


    Democrats seek to avoid DACA's isolation in budget negotiations
    Durbin told reporters that his group hopes to have an agreement before this weekend and that it will meet the President's goals.

    "We're close," Durbin said. "The President made it clear what's important to him, and we're trying to figure out how to do it in a thoughtful way and not just include fences and things of that nature, barriers, but to go beyond into technology, which the agency, people working there, over and over again said that's where we should start."

    In a speech on the Senate floor, Durbin spoke to Washington's main audience of one -- saying he wanted to help the President.

    "I believe President Donald Trump called for that meeting because he wanted to let the American people know he was serious," Durbin said. "He wants to show the American people he can lead. I want to help him lead if the goal is to make sure that DACA and the Dreamers ultimately have their chance to be part of America's future."

    As for a meeting of the congressional No. 2's -- his Republican counterpart whip, John Cornyn of Texas, and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-California, and House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland -- Durbin said it was "very difficult" to imagine that group would produce a product, and was visibly exasperated by the topics discussed.

    He sighed, laughed and looked up at the ceiling when asked if the meeting earlier Wednesday in McCarthy's office was mostly to come up with a meeting schedule.

    What is DACA and why is it ending?

    "Yes, that's exactly what it is. They're going to start with a staff meeting at 3:30 (Thursday) afternoon. To talk about an agenda," he said, half laughing, half sighing. "We've been at this for months. I'm going, we're participating."

    Bipartisan negotiators on the House side also claimed to channel President's wishes. Reps. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican, and Pete Aguilar, a California Democrat and Hispanic Caucus whip, said their bipartisan border and DACA deal, which focuses largely on a border strategy and technology, fit the bill and the other pieces can be built on.

    "I still think it's a foundation for how a deal could get made," Hurd said. "We have a DACA fix, we have a border security fix. He did say that multiple times: 'We need DACA, we need border security.' We have that, and it allows him to have some physical barriers as well."At the end of the day, lawmakers may let the President spin a deal any way he wants. Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego of Arizona, an outspoken Trump critic, said Democrats aren't even sure the President understands what he wants.

    "I think what he wants to be able to do is 'declare a victory,' " Gallego said. "I think for us, we have to worry about policy and policy outcomes -- and how he spins it, I'm indifferent to."

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    So what do Americans get out of this?
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    BIG RED FLAG...KILL THE BILL.


    THE BILL HAS A 3 YEAR VISA, RENEWALABLE EVERY 3 YEARS FOR THE ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS!!!

    WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? ANOTHER DAPA? A PATH TO STAY PERMANENTLY? A FREE PASS TO JUMP THE LINE?

    THAT MEANS THEY ARE NOT HERE ON A VACATION FOR A WEEK AND GO BACK TO MEXICO OR CENTRAL AMERICA OR WHATEVER COUNTRY THEY ARE FROM!

    HOW DO ILLEGAL PARENTS WORK? WHO PAYS THEIR HOUSING, FOOD?

    NO WORK PERMITS FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS! GET OUT...GET IN LINE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!

    WHO PAYS FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE?

    I DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR THEIR PARENTS DIABETES, DIALYSIS, TB, DISEASES, HEART ATTACKS, BROKEN HIPS, TUMORS OR ANY OTHER HEALTH RELATED ISSUES!!!

    GET THEM OFF OUR SOIL.

    THEIR ILLEGAL PARENTS DID NOT COME HERE THROUGH "NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN"
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    KILL THE BILL, IT'S ILLEGAL. Funny isn't it that a Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee doesn't know that amnesty for violations of law while the laws broken are existing and continuing in effect are ILLEGAL because they violate the equal protection clause??
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    The Bank Robber's kid does not get to keep the money.

    Do not reward the kids of ILLEGAL aliens.

    Let work permits expire and the WHOLE family needs to sell out, pack up and go back to their countries.

    They have relatives back home where they WIRE 30 BILLION back over the border!

    It is the responsibility of THEIR country to absorb them and put them to work on their soil.

    NO DACA AND NO DEAL!

    TAKE FUNDS FROM THE U.N. BUDGET AND FOREIGN AID BUDGET TO BUILD THE WALL!

    THEY STEAL MONEY FROM OTHER FUNDS ALL THE TIME...DO THIS TO FUND THE WALL!
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    What about all those who did NOT apply by the deadline?

    There should be NO more new applications! No loophole going back to allow it.

    Is that in this "Bill"?

    And all those who applied and LIED should be deported with no chance to come back for 10 years! That should eliminate 99% of them.

    Any renewals need to be extremely vetted to determine if they lied in the first place.

    WE WANT THEM GONE!

    NO TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND ANY OF THIS...NOT ONE DIME AND NO WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS OR HEALTHCARE...NONE!

    ALSO, THESE "POOR CHILDREN WHO WERE BROUGHT HERE BY THEIR PARENTS BY NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN". HOW TO WE KNOW THE "PARENTS" BROUGHT THEM? WERE D.N.A. TESTS DONE? THEY ARE ALL LIARS.
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    KILL THE BILL! JUST KILL IT. It's no good, it's unfair, unnecessary and unconstitutional, it violates the equal protection equal treatment clause of the US Constitution.
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