Thread: NC: In DMV hologram, some see sign of plot

Can't believe this hasn't been posted by now this morning!! I did a search and couldn't find it on ALIPAC.

Published: Oct 02, 2007 12:30 AM
Modified: Oct 02, 2007 05:31 AM

In DMV hologram, some see sign of plot
Bruce Siceloff, Staff Writer

Conspiracy theorists are sketching dark links between the N.C. Division of Motor Vehicles and a supposed scheme to erase national borders, flood the land with illegal immigrants and create something called a North American Union.

The DMV connection is a silvery hologram on new driver's licenses. It features the image of a globe centered on -- aha! -- North America.

The story sounded farfetched when the Road Worrier first heard details several weeks ago in two telephone calls within minutes of each other.

It still sounds farfetched, but it isn't going away. Both the federal government and our own DMV have found it necessary to post denials on their Web sites.

North Carolina was stung a few years ago by conservative critics who charged that the DMV made it easy for illegal aliens to get phony driver's licenses. Now the DMV is pretty strict about its documentation requirements; not even a U.S. passport is accepted as sufficient proof of identity.

In December, North Carolina became the first state to start using the hologram, a security measure designed by a national group to fight identity fraud. It looks like a shimmery postage stamp. It has a serial number and images such as an automobile and a globe showing North and Central America, and other continents peeking over the horizon.

The American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, a nonprofit organization of government officials, created the hologram for eventual use nationwide. It is supposed to make it harder for illegal immigrants and criminals to fool authorities with counterfeit IDs.

"The idea was to have one common element that would be on every state's driver's license," said Marge Howell, a spokeswoman for the DMV. "It would enable people who use the license as an identification tool to more easily determine whether it is an official document."

At least, that's the official cover story.

A more dramatic interpretation starts with a supposed plot by President Bush and certain foreign leaders to basically merge the United States with Canada and Mexico. James R. Corsi, a conservative author, declared last year that Bush actually is "pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union."

It's the secret purpose, Corsi and others said, of a three-nation effort called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, a candidate for the GOP presidential nomination, called the partnership "an unholy alliance of foreign consortiums and officials from several governments."

The DMV connection was put forward in July. A staffer for Jim Guest, a Missouri state representative who was visiting North Carolina, and William Gheen of Raleigh, who has an organization called Americans for Legal Immigration (www.alipac.us), called the Road Worrier to talk about it.

Gheen described the North America image on the DMV's hologram as suspiciously similar to a logo on the Security and Prosperity Partnership Web site. He said the DMV holograms include radio frequency identification chips that can be used with secret tracking technology.

The global conspiracy story has been spreading since then on blogs and talk radio.

The DMV has posted an explanation of the hologram on www.ncdot.org/dmv/ . The Security and Prosperity Partnership has a file called "SPP Myths vs. Facts" at www.spp.gov .

The DMV denies that its holograms include radio chips, and Gheen backed away from that contention Monday.

Gheen said he worries that the DMV is promoting digital face-recognition technology with its driver's licenses. This technology and the holograms will make it easier for authorities in Canada and Mexico to identify and track Americans, he said.

"It's my professional opinion that there is a plan in the works to forcibly integrate the economies of this continent," Gheen said. "The European nations got to vote on this, but we're not being asked to vote on it. It's being done without public knowledge or consent."

Enlighten the Road Worrier with comments, questions or tips: bruce.siceloff@newsobserver.com or (919)829-4527. Don't forget your address and daytime ph


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1. I never made the claim that RFID was in these licenses. I said it was a concern and a question. The liberal press is gravitating to my concerns about RFID to use it to try and discredit me and claim I made the comment as a statement instead of a question.

2. This guy calls me a 'Conspiracy theorist' which is an overt insult and the writers opinion injected into the article.

W

This needs to be removed from the licenses. The American people deserve some straight forward answers! It's not a MYTH!!

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

1. I never made the claim that RFID was in these licenses. I said it was a concern and a question. The liberal press is gravitating to my concerns about RFID to use it to try and discredit me and claim I made the comment as a statement instead of a question.

2. This guy calls me a 'Conspiracy theorist' which is an overt insult and the writers opinion injected into the article.

W

I agree 100%! The whole tone of the article is that you're a nutcase if you put any credence to the NAU. Very insulting. Made me angry...

AND they got Jerome Corsi's name wrong, did they not?

Originally Posted by imblest

North Carolina was stung a few years ago by conservative critics who charged that the DMV made it easy for illegal aliens to get phony driver's licenses. Now the DMV is pretty strict about its documentation requirements; not even a U.S. passport is accepted as sufficient proof of identity.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/gro...ry/723090.html

William, is this true that they won't accept a US passport as proof of ID for a drivers license? Then how on earth do we have so many illegals driving, having jobs, etc? I guess they must take the matricular consul ID, which is a whole lot easier to get than a passport! That would figure--make it harder for CITIZENS to get licenses so we THINK it's harder for illegals to get them!!!

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

1. I never made the claim that RFID was in these licenses. I said it was a concern and a question. The liberal press is gravitating to my concerns about RFID to use it to try and discredit me and claim I made the comment as a statement instead of a question.

2. This guy calls me a 'Conspiracy theorist' which is an overt insult and the writers opinion injected into the article.

W

So much for truth in reporting as well as being unbiased.

Letter to the Raleigh News and Observer

To The Editors:

The N&O propaganda machine strikes again! Today's article attempts to defame my character by stating that I am a 'Conspiracy Theorist' because of my concerns about the tracking technologies that have been added to the new NC licenses, without adequate public disclosure. I am also concerned about those in our nation that advocate a greater merger of the economies of the US, Canada, and Mexico. These topics are neither Conspiracies nor Theories and your writers attempts to ridicule me and others who address these topics have no place in serious journalism.

Furthermore, the writer attempts to discredit me by claiming I made statements that Radio Frequency Technology (RFID) was present in these licenses and that my claims were refuted by the NC DMV. I never made those claims, I raised that question. Asking a question and making a statement are two very different things.

I remember the problems many of us had with your paper back in 2004 when activists, candidates, and elected officials, were ridiculed and abused by your paper, when we told you that illegal immigration was a big issue and that the NC DMV was giving out licenses to illegals. The News and Observer abused us, mocked us, defended the DMV and insinuated we were all nuts for thinking illegal immigration was important to North Carolinians at the time.

Three years later, the NC DMV is notorious nationally for giving licenses to illegal aliens, lawmakers are scrambling to secure our licenses, and illegal immigration is the top issue in the land.

I guess it will take another year or two before the N&O catches up with the rest of us once again. Until then, I guess we will have to suffer through more abusive articles as you attack and try to discredit those of us who are on the forefront of these issues.

William Gheen
Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)
www.alipac.us

Great letter, William!!

I bet they won't print it though--
They just can't stand letting their readers see the truth. One of the reasons I no longer subscribe.

But they obviously are real and with no explanation or warning that they would be. So why hide and be sneaky about it if it all above board? Why shouldn't we question these holograms? We still have that right don't we?
Everybody lately that says anything or questions anything the government is doing is called a 'Conspiracy theorist' It's just more propaganda to cover their butt's. Put doubts in American's minds! Sort of like they do jobs American's won't do! Don't worry about it! Obviously they are worried about you and your comments or they would of ignored them. Keep up the good work!!

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