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    AZ-Brown Berets plan anti-Minuteman protest in Tucson

    Brown Berets plan anti-Minuteman protest in Tucson (w/ corrected day)
    09/15/2009 10:06 AM
    Tim Steller

    Members of the Brown Berets de Aztlan, a hardline Chicano activist group, are planning a demonstration at 9 a.m. Thursday Friday, Sept. 25, outside Pima County Superior Court. The demonstration is a response to the May 30 murders of Raul Flores and his nine-year-old daughter Brisenia, allegedly masterminded by border-security activist Shawna Forde.

    Discussion of the possible demonstration has been bubbling in Minuteman circles for weeks, and I first heard from one of the demonstration organizers a week or so ago, inquiring about court dates for the defendants in the murder. Here’s how they explain their reason for the demonstration:

    1. To protest hate Groups and the sponsorship of Minutemen organization by politicians.
    2. To see that the political support of such HATE GROUPS be held accountable.
    3. To demand that politicians stop funding and put an end to the Minutemen organizations as well as the hate groups they recruit from.
    4. To DEMAND JUSTICE for Raul Flores and his daughter Brisenia and all the other victims brutalized and murdered by Minutemen.

    It could be an interesting scene that day. I imagine there will be counter-protesters, police, etc. etc. Next thing you know, a flag could be burning. But which flag???


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    They are protesting Minuteman groups because there are hardly any Minuteman groups left. Very brave of them.

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    Leave your comments on there. What IF the American citizen dressed as in that pic? Wow I can just hear the media buzz now. They already call Patriots "RACISTS" What would we be if dressed in scarf covered faces?
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    What's with the scarves over their faces anyway? I've seen such people at events before. What are they hiding from?
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    Chicano nationalists to protest in city
    Brown Berets target border-watch groups; counterdemonstration also planned Friday
    By Tim Steller
    Arizona Daily Star
    Tucson, Arizona | Published: 09.20.2009

    Members of a Chicano nationalist group with little presence in Southern Arizona are planning a protest in Tucson Friday morning.
    The Brown Berets de Aztlan plan to demonstrate against the Minuteman border-watch groups at 9 a.m. at Pima County Superior Court. A counter-demonstration is being organized by people sympathetic to the Minuteman cause and disdainful of what they see as racism by the Brown Berets.
    Joseph Cremeans, chair of the group's San Diego branch, said in a series of e-mails last week that the group's reason for coming to Arizona is the murders of Raul Flores and his daughter Brisenia May 30 in Arivaca. Authorities have accused a woman who led a small border-watch group, Minutemen American Defense, of being the ringleader in the home-invasion killings.
    The woman, Shawna Forde, has been indicted on two counts of first-degree murder and other crimes, as have her two co-defendants, alleged gunman Jason E. Bush and Arivaca resident Albert Gaxiola.
    The flier for the protest cites support by politicians and government for Minuteman groups as reasons for the demonstration. Cremeans did not return an e-mail asking for specifics about what government support he is referring to.
    The Brown Berets were formed about 40 years ago in Southern California, inspired in part by the Black Panthers, a militant African-American nationalist group. The Brown Berets were militaristic in their organization, focused on fighting what they considered police brutality against Mexican-Americans and re-establishing "Aztlan," a greater Mexico including the Southwest United States as a homeland for people of Mexican descent.
    Although the group has shrunk, it has re-emerged in recent years with the rise of the Minuteman movement and its call for strictly secured borders.
    Jim Gilchrist, one of the leaders of the original Minuteman border-watch operation in Cochise County in April 2005, said he has run into Brown Berets perhaps two dozen times at demonstrations in Southern California, where he lives.
    About six months ago Brown Berets appeared at a church in Pomona, Calif., Gilchrist said, where he and others were protesting what they considered a pro-amnesty speaker.
    "They had about 20 uniformed Brown Berets," Gilchrist said. "Men and women. They had the Mexican flag, the flag of Aztlan. They put up a cordon between the church and us so we could not get through."
    He called the group "very stoic" and "very well disciplined." He also compared them to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.
    "They're all racial extremists and racial supremacists," said Gilchrist, who heads a group now called Jim Gilchrist's Minuteman Project.
    Kat Rodriguez of the Tucson group Derechos Humanos said Brown Beret members had not contacted her group about the demonstration, but they have shown up in Southern Arizona in recent years appearing one year at a border fiesta in Naco.
    Cremeans said in an e-mail, "We are trying to get more people in Arizona to organize around the issue so that pressure is put on the politicians who support these groups. As for our group we are not concerned about state lines when there are injustices."
    Tucson police are aware of the protest and have begun planning how to handle it. Tucsonan Roy Warden, a lightning rod in the local immigration debate due in part to his burning of Mexican flags and attending protests armed, is organizing a counterdemonstration.

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    This event is happening about 3 miles from my house. I'm not sure that I will go as I don't like placing myself in danger. If I go, I'd like to bring a large picture of another victim of a "home invasion," Brenda Arenas. She was the innocent victim of several Mexican National men who had just committed a home invasion of their own. Why aren't the Brown Beret's speaking out against Brown on Brown crime?
    (They say the remaining suspects all fled to Mexico)


    Brenda Arenas, 15 - high school student shot in the head during an attempted carjacking the night before she was to begin her sophomore year; died in the hospital as a result of her wounds
    Christian Betza Vasquez, 24; Orel S. Vasquez, 19; Juan Carlos Leon, 27 -
    Tucson, AZ

    TPD identifies murder suspects as teen is laid to rest
    KOVA TV - 08/17/09

    Police say they have identified the suspects wanted in connection with a fatal attempted carjacking that killed a Tucson teenager earlier in the month. This happens on the same day the 15-year-old is laid to rest. Police say on August 5th, a group of men attempted to carjack Brenda arena's family's car.

    Tucson police say these are the suspects - 24-year-old Christian Vasquez, 19-year-old Orel Vasquez and 27-year-old Juan Carlos Leon.

    {complete case coverage below}


    Sources say, police spotted this dodge Durango just days after the shooting. When police pulled the vehicle over, three men took off running and evaded police.

    Those three men are believed to be the suspects.

    As we mentioned it was an emotional day as Brenda arena was laid to rest. Friends and family gathered to remember Brenda arenas.

    The boys who were supposed be part of her quincenera followed her casket into the cathedral. Another family member said they are grateful for the community and their prayers. And that is what is helping them get through this.

    One of Brenda's aunts says they were looking forward to Brenda's Quincenera and instead they performing her last rites.

    As the funeral mass was taking place a block away at the Tucson police department, detectives continues their efforts to find the people responsible for Brenda's murder.


    3 men sought in carjacking death on Tucson's south side
    Arizona Daily Star - 08/17/09

    Three men — including two brothers — are being sought in connection with the shooting death of a 15-year-old girl during an attempted carjacking on the south side earlier this month, Tucson police officials said Monday.

    Christian Betza Vasquez, 24, Orel S. Vasquez, 19, and Juan Carlos Leon, 27, are wanted for the Aug. 5 shooting of Brenda Arenas, a Tucson Police Department release said.

    Arenas was shot to death by one of six men who fled a home on the 6100 block of South Southland Boulevard after storming the home demanding drugs and money, police said.

    One of the men attempted to carjack the vehicle her mother was driving when she was shot, police said.

    The men are wanted on first-degree murder charges.

    Arenas was buried on Monday.

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    Family of carjacking victim releases statement
    KVOA-TV - 08/07/09

    The family of Brenda Arenas, the 15-year-old killed in a failed home invasion and carjacking on Wednesday night, has released the following statement to News 4.

    "My family is inconsolable, our pain is so deep, due to the death of Brenda, and to see our sister, her mother hurting, physically, and emotionally is horrible. Our family has many friends that are here with us. I have no words. I can't verbalize what is happening," said Isabel, Brenda's aunt.

    "My sister is in deep pain and the individuals that committed this act have no idea what we are going through. I want them for one minute to realize what they have put my family through. We want these people to be captured and punished."

    "Brenda was a blooming flower, and now she is a flower that has withered. August 15th, she was to have had her quinceñera (fifteen year old coming out party), her court of honor had been selected and she and her friends were excited about it and now instead of a birthday party we are having a funeral."

    Homicide Survivors, a non profit organization, has established a fund to help the family of Brenda. Tax-deductible donations may be made in her memory at http://www.azhomicidesurvivors.org.

    Or they can be sent to:

    Homicide Survivors
    32 N. Stone Suite 1408
    Tucson, AZ 85701
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    To demand that politicians stop funding and put an end to the Minutemen organizations as well as the hate groups they recruit from.
    Haha. What politicians are funding the Minutemen organization.
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    so does anyone know how this thing turned out? it was suppose to be on the 25th of Sept.
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