Thread: LIVE Video Now: Senate Immigration Debate

Originally Posted by Newmexican

I tried to watch it for a while and became so disgusted I turned it off.

I know Newmexican. I struggled to take the notes as I heard the words from the mouth of senator after senator in the United State Congress pleading for citizenship for illegal aliens and informing the American citizens that those 4 million in the pipeline are coming in as fast as they can get them here.

Then Senator Thom Tillis tells us we need much more immigration. Lunacy what is being discussed.

Obama is gone but we are being told we are going to get a fundamental transformation in America and we better like it cause it is the only game in town that will garner support in the Senate, in the House and from the president.

Democrats rejoice as they see their future power and control guaranteed. States will turn blue quicker, fraud will be rampant in the system, in state tuition will be passing for illegal aliens where it did not exist. Drivers licenses and other benefits will be thrown at the favored population.

Senator Durbin speaking now. Can't take the drooling and fawning from his mouth for illegal aliens. He is blaming President Trump for ending DACA and putting these so called dreamers in this predicament.

Reading poll that says 81 percent want dreamers to stay and get citizenship. Overwhelming across party lines. Republicans and Donald Trump voters want citizenship. Hard to find an issue that brings so many people together.

Senator Durbin quotes Quinnipac poll that says Americans don't want the wall by majority.

Poll says legal immigration should not be cut by majority.

Talking about the 4 million in line waiting for family reunification.

Durbin says look who comes out of the chicken plants. Asians and Hispanics. Look who cleans the dishes at nice restaurants.

Been working on this for 17 years. The Dream Act.

My mother was the first dreamer in this country. Brought here at 2 years old. Her mother didn't speak English. That is my story. That is America's story.

Senator Cornyn repeats the amnesty for 1.8 million illegal aliens and bringing in the 4 million in pipeline for family reunification now.

We are a nation of immigrants and of laws he says.

Senator Grassley is next. Complimenting Senators Cornyn and Johnson for leading border security measures.

HR 2579 is vehicle for immigration.

Senators Cornyn, Tillis, Ernst, others.

Introducing amendment. Since Sept. Held more than two dozen merging for DACA. I met with President Trump on four occasions. The group met with the president I mean.

1) Our amendment fully funds president's border request. Appropriate 25 billion into trust. 2 1/2 -3 billion a year for border security. Close legal loopholes. Speedily remove criminals, etc.

2) Generous and permanent solution to DACA. Earned oath to citizenship. This concession is necessary.

3) Family based immigration. Limit to nuclear and LPR. These changes are after the 4 million come in who are waiting. Grandfathering in these.

4) Visa lottery visas go to family reunification and EB 1,2,3 visas.

I am ready and willing to vote for citizenship and others should be willing.

This is the only plan the president supports. The only one to pass the house, the only one the president will sign.

Senator Tom Cotton says this is the only bill that can become law. Provides legalization and citizenship.

Doesn't solve problem of other visas.

You can bring your elderly parents here from the home country and put them in a facility down the road.

Reading polls saying Americans want this. It is popular.

This is the one bill that can pass the House. Pass a law not a bill.

The Senate is now officially debating immigration: what we know




The Senate’s immigration debate is now open. It’s going to be messy from here.

This week is the first real movement in Congress to address the plight of those covered by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which was started by President Obama and which President Trump has promised to end.


About 700,000 people who were brought to the United States illegally as children have been protected from deportation under DACA, but Trump has said that he would rescind those protections in early March, putting the onus on Congress to come up with a permanent solution.


Thanks to a promise made to get out of last month’s government shutdown, the Senate is going first. The chamber cleared its first procedural vote, 97 to 1, Monday evening on an empty shell of a bill. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has promised an open and fair floor debate, with every proposal getting its chance to earn the 60 votes that would allow it to pass the Senate.


This is dramatically different from the Obamacare repeal and tax reform debates of last year, when Senate leadership more or less crafted its own package — with some back-and-forth from its rank-and-file — and put it on the floor for senators to take it or leave it. This time around, any proposal can get a vote, according to McConnell, and it’ll be up to the senators who are putting it forward to find 60 votes to approve it.


“It gives everybody a shot,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), the majority whip, told me last week. “It ought to be fascinating.”


There is going to be a lot happening on the Senate floor this week. Even if a proposal doesn’t get 60 votes, each vote will send an important signal about where lawmakers actually stand on immigration and all the contentious issues that come with it: DACA, a path to citizenship, Trump’s wall, family-based migration, the works.


Then at the end of it, some kind of plan might actually pass the Senate, putting pressure on the House and the White House to come onboard. We’ll try to keep things straight for you throughout the coming days.
The Senate has opened its immigration debate. That’s it so far.

Under the Senate rules, 60 senators need to agree to a procedural motion known as “cloture” to advance a bill and prevent a filibuster. McConnell called up a random House bill, which is serving merely as a vehicle to set up the action on immigration. (Fun trivia: That random House bill would have allowed federal tax credits to pay for COBRA health coverage when people move out of a job — but only if the House’s Obamacare repeal bill had passed last year.)


He easily got those 60 votes on Monday evening. So the immigration debate is rolling.


In the next day or so, the Senate will take its next procedural step, called the motion to proceed. That will require a majority of the senators (51, if every senator is present). After that, finally, the real action gets underway. Any senator will have an opportunity to bring up a proposal for a vote.


Under the ground rules McConnell has set, a proposal would need to get 60 votes to be approved and replace the House “shell” bill. This isn’t the usual way of doing things: Usually, a bill needs 60 votes to break a filibuster and then 51 votes to pass. But the thinking is that this streamlines the action, by simply having a single 60-vote threshold for amendments rather than going through that two-step process.
McConnell has promised that any proposal can get a vote, and it can pass if it gets the support of 60 senators. Now the question is: Which proposals will be put forward and can any of them get the necessary backing?


There are a lot of immigration proposals out there

After months of negotiations, Congress has no shortage of immigration plans. As Vox has explained, the problem isn’t a lack of ideas; it’s a lack of the right kind of support:

It’s that the ideas that have been presented are either too far to the left to satisfy “a majority of the majority” among House Republicans or too far to the right to attract any Democratic votes in the Senate.

There’s a White House proposal that calls for a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants who came to the country as children, plus $25 billion to fund a southern border wall, while substantially curtailing family immigration and eliminating the diversity visa lottery program in such a way that would gut the legal immigration system. It’s gained the support of conservatives like Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) and has been panned by Democrats and moderate Republicans.


Republican Sens. Chuck Grassley (IA), Thom Tillis (NC), David Perdue (GA), James Lankford (OK), Cotton (AR) and Joni Ernst (IA) and Cornyn (TX) have released a legislative proposal that mirrors the White House’s outline. It has gained McConnell’s support, but it’s not clear whether the majority leader will bring up the proposal as a substitute.


Also in the Senate, a bipartisan agreement between Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Dick Durbin (D-IL) would offer legal status, and eventual citizenship, to young unauthorized immigrants, give about a year’s worth of funding for the border wall, and eliminate the diversity visa lottery. But it was panned by the White House and conservatives for being too liberal.


There are a handful of other bipartisan proposals that follow a similar framework in both the Senate and the House, and still more working groups that have yet to come out with proposals, including Sen. Susan Collins’s (R-ME) “Common Sense Caucus,” which developed during January’s three-day government shutdown.


Most recently, a proposal from McCain and Coons would grant eventual citizenship to undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children and have been in the country since 2013, and some border security measures — but not the border wall. The senators put forward the idea as a proposal that could serve as the foundation for the floor debate on immigration this week.


A number of these proposals are expected to see a vote on the Senate floor this week. Something needs to get 60 votes if Congress is going to any affirmative steps toward fixing the DACA issue.

Senator Ernst wants citizenship for DAC.a illegal aliens. They are in s hooks, churches, etc.

Senator Ernst telling story about meeting DACA recipient brought here by parents from Mexico. Pointed at younger siblings who are siblings. They are citizens, I am not. She met with recruiter and told her she could not be accepted they said. She wanted to join our military, serve this country. Her story and desire to serve was clear to me. Only country they have ever known, the one they love.

(So we have many anchor babies through this DACA recipient's parents)

Senator Thom Tillis wants citizenship for a significant number of illegal alien population. Consistent with what the president wants. Begins with pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million. Some are adults now. Should be given citizenship.

Border security is not a wall.

We need to fix broken immigration system.

We can build a case for more immigration in the future.

Every Senator & Congress person that votes for any Amnesty should be voted out
of office in their next election and remembered as a Disgraced politician.

You can bring your elderly parents here from the home country and put them in a facility down the road.

After you get them signed up for SSI and Medicare/Medicaid.