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    1. To date, I've not seen, read or heard of La Raza and their ilk supporting any of the ideological planks of National Socialism.
    You've not looked very hard nor much past the surface.
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    Forgive me if I ramble a bit, its still early (for me) and I've not yet had my full dose of java.

    You've not looked very hard nor much past the surface.
    Lets start with what most folks view as the key characteristic of Naziism, adherence and promotion of one racial type over all others.

    Hitler's Nazi theory also claimed that the Aryan race is a master race, superior to all other races, that a nation is the highest creation of a race, and great nations (literally large nations) were the creation of great races.
    Source: http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/na ... cal_theory

    La Raza and their ideological fellows fall far short on that point, since from what I've seen, none of them claim to trace their racial roots from the ancient meaning of Ayran, the regions now known as Iran and portions of the Indian subcontinent. And I strongly doubt they lay claim to the later interpretation taken by Adolf Hitler and his band of nut-cases, that "Ayrans" are the Nordic types, tall, fair of skin and hair. Indeed, the La Raza cretans appear to loath things of European origin.

    On the point of economic systems, National Socialism was vehemently anti-Marxist/anti-communist. Again, from the items I've seen, La Raza and the like are strongly in favor of economic items often found Marxist and Marxist derived economic systems. For example:

    NCLR supports proposals that eliminate or reduce impediments that prevent Latinos from accessing health care, including efforts for comprehensive legislation to provide health insurance, and restoring legal immigrants’ eligibility to Medicaid and SCHIP
    Source: http://nclr.org/content/policy/detail/1785/

    Aka: Socialized Medicine

    A final point I'll address is that of labor unions and a free press. National Socialist ideology viewed these things as abhorrent and destructive to the nation. La Raza and their kindred stand in support of these things, based on the readings I've done from their materials.

    The pro-illegal immigrant, pro-latino, pro-mexican groups are racist groups from their ideological writtings and views expressed by their supporters, but Nazis they are not. Labeling them as such is a disingenuous as lableling those of us who are opposed to illegal immigration and the reconquesta movement racists.
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    Re: Mexican Natzis

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    Great Post! L.A. is slowly getting trashed. Something needs to be done!
    As a California resident I can say the whole state is going the way of Los Angeles. Another 10 to 20 years and a few amnesties will make the state a lost cause.
    It is such a pity. They really don't have a clue, do they? They live, breath, and eat filth. They are the makers of their own slop. Now they want to spread it all around. DEPORT these criminals![/b]
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    Re: Mexican Natzis

    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian503a
    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Great Post! L.A. is slowly getting trashed. Something needs to be done!
    As a California resident I can say the whole state is going the way of Los Angeles. Another 10 to 20 years and a few amnesties will make the state a lost cause.
    It is such a pity. They really don't have a clue, do they? They live, breath, and eat filth. They are the makers of their own slop. Now they want to spread it all around. DEPORT these criminals![/b]
    As of RIGHT NOW, 3:29 p.m. CST,29 May 2005, CALIFORNICATION is officaly OVER, DONE, A LOST CAUSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindawe
    I must respectfully disagree with the author of the article, based on the following points.

    1. To date, I've not seen, read or heard of La Raza and their ilk supporting any of the ideological planks of National Socialism.

    Sixx says: La Raza means The Race. Their slogan is "for those in the race everything, for those outside the race, NOTHING. Hitler wanted a "master race". These people want the same thing. The want America as their country. You need to "read and see" more.


    2. I've not seen any rallies or propaganda coming from the supporters of illegal aliens that even come close to that staged and put forth by the Nazis of 1930s/1940s Germany.

    Sixx says: Then you are legally, irrevocably, and permanently BLIND.
    So I will describe it for you. Signs with the most vulgar words in the english language on them. Rocks thrown at American women. These are the Hitler youth of today. By the way, the new pope was a Hitler youth.


    3. Judging from the photographs and videos I've seen, the real Nazis had a better sense of fashion, and better tailors.

    Sixx says: The color of La Raza's uniforms are BROWN. As in BROWN shirts in the Third Reich. Your vain attempt at levity is NOT APPRECIATED. Any way, how can you judge "photographs and videos" with fixed and dilated pupils. That is medical code for Brain DEAD

    People can be anti-semites and not be Nazis. Look at the KKK or the Islamic fundamentalists.

    Sixx says: The islamofascist and KKK ARE NEO-NAZI's. Only the names have changed and it NOT to protect the innocent. Aryan Brotherhood, The Sword and Covenant of the Lord are all the children of one Adolph Hitler.
    If you were sired by a Nazi, believe in Nazi tenents, and want to exterminate Jews, THAT MAKES YOU A NAZI.


    Calling this rabble Nazis only serves to dignify them.
    Sixx says: No, it is to properly and correctly describe them. Again, your attempt at being comedic AIN'T FUNNY!!!!!

    HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF SEMITE. HAVE SOMEONE READ IT TO YOU. I DON'T WRITE IN BRAILE

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=semite
    Sem·ite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt)
    n.
    A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
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    There is no love for, need for or room for any Nazi, Neo-Nazi, KKK or Jihadist on this board no if and or butts about it.
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    Sixx, I point your attention at the following passage:
    2. Conflicts: No personal attacks, threatening language, or personal information on the board. Calling other users names or attacking others will not be tolerated. Don't call other users names or apply labels to them that you can't substantiate (See Bayourod). Any information about private citizens or your personal info should not be placed on the open forum.
    Blind I am not. Else I'd have great difficulty hitting the 10 ring at 500 yards using the iron sights on my rifle. And I DO know the definition of Semite, but thank you for the reminder.

    Chill dude, by our presense here we BOTH desire the same thing, an end to illegal immigration and the damage it is doing to our country. You want to call the La Raza fools and their ilk Nazi, I find it false. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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