Thread: Chicago Trib: Comprehensive plan needed on immigration

Comprehensive plan needed on immigration
March 23, 2008

Note: The libidiots appear quite scared about the SAVE Act. Newspaper editorial boards, IA activist groups and the treason lobby politicians (i.e., Hispanic Caucus) are all putting out whining and worried press releases.

In place of meaningful immigration reform, both conservative and liberal politicians have hatched piecemeal plans. This won't work.

Conservative Democrats, including Rep. Melissa Bean of Illinois and Rep. Heath Shuler of North Carolina, are joining Republicans to sponsor the Secure America with Verification and Enforcement Act, which calls for beefing up the border with Mexico and requiring employers to do more to not hire -- and to fire -- undocumented workers.

The problem with the SAVE Act is that it is an enforcement-only piece of legislation and does not include a plan to legalize any of the 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. It amounts to "deport them all."

The SAVE Act calls for posting 8,000 more agents along the border, and for employers to use federal databases to verify the status of all workers within four years. Those databases, however, are fundamentally flawed. Immigrants eligible to work in the U.S. legally -- and even U.S. citizens -- could be mistakenly flagged for something as simple as a typo. They would be reported to their employers, putting them in the position of having to prove they can work here legally. Struggling with government bureaucracy can be hard enough without being swept up in the web of an error-filled computer database.

The SAVE Act also would broaden the definition of alien smuggling to include Americans who aid undocumented immigrants. This could implicate social workers, teachers, priests or even family members. Watch out, Rev. Walter "Slim" Coleman, the Chicago pastor who offered Elvira Arellano sanctuary in his church for a year.

This isn't the only bad idea floating around Congress.

Hispanic Democrats are blocking visas for seasonal workers who come to work here legally. They work winters in ski lodges and summers in resorts and carnivals. Blocking their visas hurts businesses from Massachusetts to Illinois that count on these legal immigrants from Jamaica, Eastern Europe and Mexico. But members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, which includes Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, don't want to renew visas for legal seasonal workers until they get support in Congress for a legalization program for undocumented workers.

Yes, they have a point. But to punish workers who come here legally to create leverage in a larger cause is unfair.

Democrats and Republicans are failing us all. Sooner or later, they will have no choice but to develop a comprehensive plan that secures our borders and creates a humanitarian pathway to legalization for 12 million undocumented immigrants.
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Hispanic Democrats are blocking visas for seasonal workers who come to work here legally. They work winters in ski lodges and summers in resorts and carnivals. Blocking their visas hurts businesses from Massachusetts to Illinois that count on these legal immigrants from Jamaica, Eastern Europe and Mexico. But members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, which includes Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, don't want to renew visas for legal seasonal workers until they get support in Congress for a legalization program for undocumented workers.

Encourage the law abiders to stop doing thing legally......how rich is that? He could care less about the Legal workers from anyplace else.....his ONLY concern is Mexico.

The path to legalization leads south into Mexico. They'll be in their own country and they'll be legal!

A lot of these OBL's talk like amnesty isn't a question of if, but when. Amnesty IS NOT a done deal folks. We killed it twice and we'll kill it again.

Originally Posted by crazybird

Hispanic Democrats are blocking visas for seasonal workers who come to work here legally. They work winters in ski lodges and summers in resorts and carnivals. Blocking their visas hurts businesses from Massachusetts to Illinois that count on these legal immigrants from Jamaica, Eastern Europe and Mexico. But members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, which includes Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, don't want to renew visas for legal seasonal workers until they get support in Congress for a legalization program for undocumented workers.

Encourage the law abiders to stop doing thing legally......how rich is that? He could care less about the Legal workers from anyplace else.....his ONLY concern is Mexico.

So called represenatives (more akin to traitors) like Gutierrez of Illinois with their ethno-centric, uni-ethnic agendas should be removed from office.

The real question we must consider is how is it that the so called "Hispanic Democrats" can yield enough power to block this bill or amendment from going into effect. If we have this many ethno-centric leaders in our government, with this much power, then we have much more to worry about than previously recognized.

The problem with the SAVE Act is that it is an enforcement-only piece of legislation and does not include a plan to legalize any of the 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. It amounts to "deport them all."

Problem?! I think the author meant to type another word. This is not a problem.


Go to the link to see the interesting comments.

If we have this many ethno-centric leaders in our government, with this much power, then we have much more to worry about than previously recognized.

We have and we do.....said this before. Just look at the states....especially those that aren't border states.....never had a huge Mexican population before.....aren't a part of Atzlan.....see where the illegals settle...who they vote in....where their allegance lies....what voting power they hold. Heck the next guy up wanting Guts position is the anchor baby of a mexican cartel member!!!!!! Who's already an alderman in Chicago!!!!!!!

The problem with the SAVE Act is that it is an enforcement-only piece of legislation and does not include a plan to legalize any of the 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States

What a ridiculous sentence within a ridiculous editorial. Faulty logic to say the least. The many amnesties over recent years did not work, only exacerbating the problem of illegal immigration. It's finally time to focus on enforcement -- no matter how much the biased liberal media and OBL whine.

And stop using the lowball 12 million number -- it's likely more than double this!

The only comprehensive plan we want to see is the one that comprehensively enforces our laws across this country....attrition through enforcement and no amnesty ever again for people who broke our laws to get here!!

Hispanic Democrats are blocking visas for seasonal workers who come to work here legally. They work winters in ski lodges and summers in resorts and carnivals. Blocking their visas hurts businesses from Massachusetts to Illinois that count on these legal immigrants from Jamaica, Eastern Europe and Mexico. But members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, which includes Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, don't want to renew visas for legal seasonal workers until they get support in Congress for a legalization program for undocumented workers.

Sounds like blackmail to me!!! ENFORCE THE LAW!!! We don't need to change the law for lawbreakers!!!!! NO COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM!!! ENFORCE THE CURRENT LAWS ON IMMIGRATION!!!

Zeezil, or anybody....


How is the Hispanic Caucus blocking visas?