Thread: Mexicans have better claim to U.S. than 'Euro-Americans'

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Friday, September 29, 2006

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THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
Mexicans have better claim to U.S. than 'Euro-Americans'
This from student who 'represented' immigration PAC at 'parliament'

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Posted: September 29, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern




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© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

One of the participants in this year's "model Parliament" in which university students pretended to run a new North American "union" took on a role as a lobbyist for Americans for Legal Immigration, then announced that Mexicans have a more legitimate claim to the land in the U.S. than those "Euro-Americans."

"America was created by Europeans who stole this land (or in some cases traded it for a few bottles of whisky and some shotguns) from its indigineous (sic) peoples whilst plundering, murdering and raping its inhabitants," said a student who identified himself as Tyson Sadler, on a forum at ALI-PAC.

"They set up borders, stole important artifacts and kidnapped people which (sic) were sent back to Europe," he added. "This land belongs to the indigineous (sic) peoples – the very ones you are trying to keep out. Mexicans have more claim to the territorial United States than Euro-Americans do. There are NO illegals.

"I would love to see ALIPAC dismantled. This organization makes me sick," he said.

Wow, said William Gheen, the director for ALI-PAC.

"I'm flabbergasted," he told WND during an interview on the subject. "I'm blown away by this."

ALI-PAC is Americans for Legal Immigration, a group set up to "address the disparity between the public's desire for more control of illegal immigration and the actions of lawmakers," the group itself says.

The "model Parliament" was a recent event in which students from 10 universities in the U.S., Mexico and Canada participated This year they met in the Mexican Senate for five days in what was called "Triumvirate," with organizers declaring "A North American Parliament is born."

It's sponsored by the Canadian based North American Forum on Integration, and a similar staged event happened in the Canadian Senate in 2005.

Organizers make clear their intent:

"The creation of a North American parliament, such as the one being simulated by these young people, should be considered," explained Raymond Chretien, the president of the Triumvirate and the former Canadian ambassador to both Mexico and the U.S.

Participants discuss draft bills on trade corridors, immigration, provisions of the North American Free Trade Agreement and produce a daily newspaper called "The TrilatHerald."
American University Professor Robert Pastor

The board of directors of NAFI includes Robert A. Pastor, professor and director of the Center for North American Studies at American University and vice chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on North America. He has testified before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on the idea of merging the United States, Mexico and Canada in a North American union stretching from Prudhoe Bay to Guatemala.

The 10 universities taking part include Harvard, American University, Carlton University, Simon Fraser, Universite de Montreal, Ecole nationale d'administration publique, Monterrey TEC, CIDE, Monterrey University and Instituto Mexicano de la Juventud.

NAFI claims the event enjoys the support of the U.S. Embassy in Canada, the Canadian Embassy in Mexico and the North American Development Bank. It also has been supported by at least one U.S. news organization – the Houston Chronicle.

So what was a student doing describing himself as a representative from ALI-PAC when ALI-PAC didn't know anything about it, and the student clearly wasn't in the same philosophical book as ALI-PAC, much less on the same page?

A political move, probably, said Gheen.

"It must have been some sort of clinical observation, a human experiment," he said. "They were testing the political dynamics."

"It looks like they instructed these students to study us and try to replicate us and our message, and put it into the context of a legislative governing system," said Gheen,

He said he found out when the student's signature arrived on the ALI-PAC website forum, where he started out bragging that he'd won an award.

The posting listed the "Final Report 2006" from "The Tirumvirate in La Reforma" and said that Sadler, as "Lobbyist for the organization 'Americans for Legal Immigration'" and member of the delegation from Simon Fraser University, was being honored.

After the initial posting, Gheen simply asked Sadler to clarify.

"Please explain these reports for us. We would like to know why the name of our organization is being used in some Globalist exercise to practice the unlawful merger of the US, Canada, and Mexico," Gheen wrote.

Initially Sadler responded with a terse: "Please direct your questions to INFO@FINA-NAFI.ORG or visit http://www.fina-nafi.org."

But under some prodding from others on the forum, he returned, and unloaded.

"I don't wish to contribute to a thread of an organization I find to be extremely racist, elitist and exclusionary. ALIPAC hurts us all," he wrote.

"I represented your organization at the North American Forum on Integration (a model parliament) this past summer. I won the title of 'Distinguished Delegate' for lobbying on behalf of ALIPAC. I won the award because I represented 'Americans For Legal Immigration' well as I lobbied on their behalf. If you read the final report, you will see that I was successful in persuading legislators from Canada, the US, and Mexico to sympathize with ALIPAC's aims.

"Rest assured that your organization, no matter how dispicable (sic) it is, was represented by myself with the most amount of professionalism and accuracy.

"The name of your organization is not being used to practice the unlawful merger of the US, Canada, and Mexico. We are assuming that the merger has already taken place in a completely lawful and sustainable manner," he wrote.

"Mr. Sadler, I doubt very seriously that an Open Borders advocate like yourself could ever do ALIPAC the slightest justice," responded Gheen. He said Sadler didn't even understand the group's purpose.

"You cannot lawfully reconstruct the United States of America without changing the US Constitution and gaining ratification by the states."

"If you are correct and this is already the case to be prepared for and practiced, then your masters have just set the stage for massive unrest as the side you advocate for has deprived all American, Canadian, and Mexico citizens of their rights," he said.

"How does it feel to be a doll of the devil?"

One other participant in the forum was more direct:

"Tyson, Thank you for … admitting that you defamed and slandered ALIPAC. You showed your real intentions with your post. Guess what, there are 250 million Americans opposed to your ideals."

Pastor is the author of "Toward a North American Community," a book promoting the development of a North American union as a regional government and the adoption of the amero as a common monetary currency to replace the dollar and the peso.

As vice chairman of the May 2005 CFR task force, he is an architect of the Building a North American Community" plan that presents itself as a blueprint for using bureaucratic action within the executive branches of Mexico, the U.S. and Canada to transform the current trilateral Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America into a North American union regional government.

The next Triumvirate model parliament conference will be in the United States – in either New York or Washington, according to a spokeswoman for the North American Forum.

Earlier this month, a high-level, top-secret meeting of the North American Forum took place in Banff, Canada – with topics ranging from "A Vision for North America," "Opportunities for Security Cooperation" and "Demographic and Social Dimensions of North American Integration."

Pastor was listed as a confirmed participant in that meeting, along with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former Secretary of State George Shultz, former Central Intelligence Agency Director R. James Woolsey, former Immigration and Naturalization Services Director Doris Meissner, former Defense Secretary William Perry, former Energy Secretary and Defense Secretary James Schlesinger and top officials of both Mexico and Canada.

But there's also been significant opposition. One set of suggestions came from Lou Dobbs of CNN – a frequent critic of President Bush's immigration policies.

"What in the world are these people thinking about? You know, I was asked the other day about whether or not I really thought the American people had the stomach to stand up and stop this nonsense, this direction from a group of elites, an absolute contravention of our law, of our Constitution, every national value. And I hope, I pray that I'm right when I said yes. But this is – I mean, this is beyond belief," he said.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. and the chairman of the House Immigration Reform Caucus as well as author of the new book, "In Mortal Danger," may be the only elected official to challenge openly the plans for the new superstate.

Responding to a WND report, Tancredo is demanding the Bush administration fully disclose the activities of the government office implementing the trilateral agreement that has no authorization from Congress.

When I first posted about the New World Order and the SPP last year... many were dubious, remember?

When I discovered it for myself and connected the dots, the dread of what we were facing in the months ahead overwhelmed me physically and I literally threw up and couldn't get the stomach settled for almost 4 hours. My circulation changed totally in my body also...and I had swelling in my lower legs for no reason at all....for months.

So, you do not know how happy and relieved I am that FINALLY...almost 18 months later...we have Lou Dobbs, Tom Tancredo, Pat Buchanan and many others including a group of Canadians....realizing that this President is trying to end our nation and Canada by one of the most clever, devious, despicable almost incomprehensible means imaginable...Executive Branch Regulations....300 of them, which considered alone and individually don't draw any attention to speak of and do not need Congressional Authority...but when considered together....they Dismantle the United States as a Sovereign, Independent Nation and under International Law and our membership in the World Trade Organization and the WTO Membership Agreement are....completely legal and binding on the American People.

Wake Up America...it's time to Roar and I mean Roar Loud and Now.

AAAAARGH!!!

These are Traitors doing this and every single one of them need to be removed from office and position starting with the White House in its entirety so we can get some Americans in these jobs to run our country including saving it from the disaster this pond scum has made of it.

We can do this. It's what we as American Citizens were born to do, preserve the United States of America. There is no greater task that we will or could ever do...than this.

Commence Double Impeachment and Removal of both Bush and Cheney....NOW.

Demand it. Do not take NO for an answer.

DITTO JUDY!!

The slime are coming out because they know they have been exposed completely. Judicial Watch got the documents out exposing their secretive plans and now they have to face the the American and Canadian people!!

No hold bar!! This is corporate/government treason!!

We have to remove all involved!! OUR MANTRA SHOULD BE IMPEACH, IMPEACH!!

We have to remove all involved!! OUR MANTRA SHOULD BE IMPEACH, IMPEACH!!

We must do more than this. We must clean out the House and the Senate. Its time to put people in Congress who believe in honor and have integrity and bring back the dream of our forefathers, and our ancestors who gave their blood so all of us could enjoy the blessing of freedom. Its time to get rid of the wealthy elitests in our government. History has proven the wealthy don't give a rats butt about the 'common folk'.

Well , where do i start here, last night i was watching the Spanish TV Station Univision and they has a 60 minutes type of show , where they interviewd members of azatlan and other indigenas groups , this people are lost in the past , even tought i agree with the fact that this was their land centuries ago, but they did not claimed it then, only now that this is a Great Nation due to the hard work and effort of all the Immigrants (legal) that live here and forged this great nation!!!!!

I believe that azatlan organizers have an agenda of crying foul play just to get thier way into the U.S., (WHICH WE MUST KEEP OUR EYES ON THEM)

LET ME TELL YOU MY FRIENDS IF THEY WANT LAND AND A PLACE TO LIVE THEY CAN DO IT IN MEXICO WHERE THERE IS PLENTY OF LAND, WHY DON'T THEY GO THERE AND BUILD A PROSPEROUS NATION THAT CAN SUPPLY THEM WITH A GOOD LIVING SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE U.S., THEY CANNOT , THIS ARE THE FREELOADERS!!!! THEY JUST WANT TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.!!!!

The people I see among their ranks are mostly low lifes, they embarrass me as a Latino, that's not what we are all about, NO WAY !!!!!




I DON'T SEE AMONG THEM HIGLY EDUCATED, WELL OFF LATINOS, THOSE PEOPLE ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE WORKING HARD TO CONTRIBUITE TO THEIR SOCIETY INSTEAD OF CRYING FOUL PLAY.

AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE THEY ADD THE WORD "RACISM" TO THE MIX, IT'S NOT ABOUT RACE DUMMIES, IT'S ABOUT LEGALITY!!!!

Do you think the people of Mexico know what is going on yet? Will they oppose it also? Would this benefit Mexico in anyway or is it as disasterous for them as for the US and Canada?

Most Americans who do not pay attention (and that is a LOT of people), have NO CLUE about this.

Simply stated:
What is a Mexican anyway?
A mix of spanish, french, indian and some african blood.
Thus, the people that once had lived here are long gone.
Consenquently, so is any claim to the land.

added to the homepage with the following note and going out to our national supporter list shortly.

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ALIPAC Impersonated in Globalist experiment and training exercise!
Posted on Friday, September 29 @ 15:04:47 UTC
Topic: NAFTA CAFTA FTAA

ALIPAC Note: Many of you have heard rumblings about a merger of the United States, Canada, and Mexico taking place against our wishes and behind our backs. Imagine our shock when World Net Daily reported on this student training exercise called a 'model parliament' where millions of dollars were spent having students from elite universities imitate a new governmental body for the entire continent or NAU North American Union. Imagine our further shock when we discovered that a student that hates ALIPAC was instructed to study us and imitate us in this experiment under the observation of the academic wing of those plotting this new and unlawful government. World Net Daily has been kind enough to do a follow up story about these human Guinea pigs working for their Globalist masters. Links to the original story provided at the end of this article.

Somehow I feel confident that ALIPAC would have access to, and the support of some of our country's most outstanding lawyers should it ever become necessary.

Look. This group is becoming more overt now that they are being revealed as the traitors that they are. But, we had better not underestimate them. They have managed to keep control of the executive branch for more than 20 years. They have orchestrated incidents to get the public to vote for who they wanted in office. They have virtually unlimited finances and power. Our election system has been corrupted for too many years. To defeat them, we have to circumvent our election process! Perhaps we can get the FBI on our side and have them all arrested on the charge of treason. If this is unsuccessful, we will need to use alternative methods.