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    Minutemen Vigilantism Raises Civil War Fears

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    Minutemen Vigilantism Raises Civil War Fears

    USA Hispanics along the border may become victims
    by
    Ernesto Cienfuegos
    La Voz de Aztlan

    Billy the Kid - Typical "white bandido" that invaded Arizona after state was stolen from Mexico
    Los Angeles, Alta California, March 8, 2005 - (ACN) The US side of the border in Arizona is not just inhabited by Anglos (whites). In fact the area along the Mexico/Arizona border, where the Minutemen vigilantes intend to operate against Mexican immigrants in the month of April, has families of Mexican descent that go back in history prior to when the territory was invaded by hordes of white savages from the east coast. Today, these same families are in fear that they will be victimized by new hordes of America's riff-raff that will congregate in Tombstone, Arizona on April Fools Day.


    Chris Simcox - New riff-raff that has invaded Arizona
    The first explorer to enter Arizona was Cabeza de Vaca in 1536 and he was followed by Franciscan Friar Marcos de Niza who reached the state in 1539. In fact it was Father Marcos de Niza who gave the state its name. Arizona is derived from the Spanish phrase "zona arida" which translates into "arid zone". Friar Marcos de Niza was followed into Arizona by explorer Francisco Vasquez de Coronado. Coronado led an expedition from Mexico in 1540 in search of the seven legendary cities of gold, reaching as far as the Grand Canyon. Later Father Eusebio Kino, a Jesuit, founded the missions of Guevavi in 1692 and Tumacacori in 1696 near Nogales. Father San Xavier del Bac founded a mission in 1700 near Tucson. The Arizona region became Mexican territory following the Mexican war of independence from Spain in 1821. In the early 1800's, U.S. mountain men and "white bandidos" like Kit Carson and Billy the Kid and their ilk invaded the area. Mexico lost Arizona during the Mexican-American War and the subsequent "Great Land Theft" in 1848.


    Jim Gilchrist - Racist leader of the Minutemen vigilantes
    Presently there is an ominous an malevolent dark storm gathering over Arizona that has the potential of spreading throughout the southwest. On April 1st a group of anti-Mexican racists and white supremacists from throughout the USA plan to meet in Tombstone, Arizona to stop what they call a "Mexican invasion" and "reconquista movement". Many of the white bigots which have been interviewed by the media have said that they will be carrying weapons. After their initial rally in Tombstone, they plan to deploy, for the entire month of April, along the US/Mexico border in the region to "hunt for Mexican immigrants". This is definitely a formula for disaster that could lead to an all out ethnic war between Mexicans and Anglos. It could mean the start of a new Mexican-American War between the United States and Mexico. All it would take is a crazy gringo terrorist to blow up and kill an American family of Mexican descent and admit that he did it on behalf of the Minutemen vigilantes. After this all hell will break loose and will "unleash the rabid dogs of racial hatred".


    Glenn Spencer - Vile bigot of American Border Patrol
    Should the general American populace allow a few "nut cases" to threaten their peace and well being in their own homeland? Must we allow the likes of Glenn Spencer, Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrist to threaten the lives of our families? Make no mistake about it, what these racist vigilantes intend to do, judging from their past actions, has great potential to harm your loved ones including your children. We must not allow for these paranoid crazies to turn the friendly Mexican/Anglo relationship, we presently enjoy in the southwest, into the type of relationship that Palestinians and Zionists in the Holy Land struggle with.


    Glenn Spencer burning a Mexican flag in front of the Mexican Embassy in D.C.
    Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are generally a peace loving people. Our history, however, shows that we have great warrior legacies both on the Aztec and the Spanish sides. The US can not presently afford additional world enemies. The nation of Mexico presently provides a great "security buffer" for the USA southern flank. What would happen if the Minuteman vigilantes instigate the alienation of Mexico and the country allows the infiltration of the Mara Salvatruchas, Al-Queda and every South and Central American subversive group eager to attack the USA?

    If the Minutemen vigilantes commit atrocities against Mexicans, or God forbid against Mexican-Americans, there will be retaliations against Anglos in major cities like Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, San Antonio, El Paso and the like. Already anti-Mexican hate crimes like the the decapitations of three Mexican children in Baltimore, Maryland, the bludgeoning to death of a Mexican mother and daughter in Fremont, California and the burning to death of Mexican families in an arson fire in Columbus, Ohio has placed the Mexican/Anglo relationship on the brink. The Mexican and Mexican-American communities can not and will not put up with any more injustices.

    There are signs that our youths are about ready to act out politically. One sign took place recently in Ceres, California when a decorated US Marine of Mexican descent decide to bring Fallujah back to his hometown. US Marine Andres Raya took on six police agencies with an assault rifle killing one police officer and critically injuring another. There is ample evidence that the act was politically motivated. Andres Raya told his friends that he did not believe in the Iraq War and the police released a picture showing Raya and his friends burning a US flag in the high school gym.

    Today, we are seeing the increasing politicization of groups like the 18th Street gang and the Mara Salvatruchas. These two groups are increasingly acting more like insurgents than common street gangs. We hear talk that Mexican families are readying themselves for any attack from white vigilantes or rogue white racist cops. Also, there are rumors that the 18th Street gang and the Mara Salvatruchas are forming an alliance to battle their real common enemy. Most interesting of all, there are efforts among US Marines of Mexican descent to form a super secret battalion to respond to any attack of the Mexican-American community. Word is there is already such a battalion at Camp Pendleton where US Marine Andres Raya was assigned.

    It would serve the interests of the general American population if US citizens put an immediate stop to the plans of groups like those of the paranoid Minutemen vigilantes. These people do not represent the large majority of sane and healthy Americans. The Minutemen are racists, bigots and xenophobes and are operating out of hate for Mexicans. They are endangering the peace and their actions will surely lead to consequences we will all eventually regret.
    If you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will give you trouble in the land where you will live.'

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    Minutemen Vigilantism Raises Civil War Fears

    http://www.aztlan.net/ethnic_civil_war.htm

    Minutemen Vigilantism Raises Civil War Fears

    USA Hispanics along the border may become victims
    by
    Ernesto Cienfuegos
    La Voz de Aztlan

    Billy the Kid - Typical "white bandido" that invaded Arizona after state was stolen from Mexico
    Los Angeles, Alta California, March 8, 2005 - (ACN) The US side of the border in Arizona is not just inhabited by Anglos (whites). In fact the area along the Mexico/Arizona border, where the Minutemen vigilantes intend to operate against Mexican immigrants in the month of April, has families of Mexican descent that go back in history prior to when the territory was invaded by hordes of white savages from the east coast. Today, these same families are in fear that they will be victimized by new hordes of America's riff-raff that will congregate in Tombstone, Arizona on April Fools Day.


    Chris Simcox - New riff-raff that has invaded Arizona
    The first explorer to enter Arizona was Cabeza de Vaca in 1536 and he was followed by Franciscan Friar Marcos de Niza who reached the state in 1539. In fact it was Father Marcos de Niza who gave the state its name. Arizona is derived from the Spanish phrase "zona arida" which translates into "arid zone". Friar Marcos de Niza was followed into Arizona by explorer Francisco Vasquez de Coronado. Coronado led an expedition from Mexico in 1540 in search of the seven legendary cities of gold, reaching as far as the Grand Canyon. Later Father Eusebio Kino, a Jesuit, founded the missions of Guevavi in 1692 and Tumacacori in 1696 near Nogales. Father San Xavier del Bac founded a mission in 1700 near Tucson. The Arizona region became Mexican territory following the Mexican war of independence from Spain in 1821. In the early 1800's, U.S. mountain men and "white bandidos" like Kit Carson and Billy the Kid and their ilk invaded the area. Mexico lost Arizona during the Mexican-American War and the subsequent "Great Land Theft" in 1848.


    Jim Gilchrist - Racist leader of the Minutemen vigilantes
    Presently there is an ominous an malevolent dark storm gathering over Arizona that has the potential of spreading throughout the southwest. On April 1st a group of anti-Mexican racists and white supremacists from throughout the USA plan to meet in Tombstone, Arizona to stop what they call a "Mexican invasion" and "reconquista movement". Many of the white bigots which have been interviewed by the media have said that they will be carrying weapons. After their initial rally in Tombstone, they plan to deploy, for the entire month of April, along the US/Mexico border in the region to "hunt for Mexican immigrants". This is definitely a formula for disaster that could lead to an all out ethnic war between Mexicans and Anglos. It could mean the start of a new Mexican-American War between the United States and Mexico. All it would take is a crazy gringo terrorist to blow up and kill an American family of Mexican descent and admit that he did it on behalf of the Minutemen vigilantes. After this all hell will break loose and will "unleash the rabid dogs of racial hatred".


    Glenn Spencer - Vile bigot of American Border Patrol
    Should the general American populace allow a few "nut cases" to threaten their peace and well being in their own homeland? Must we allow the likes of Glenn Spencer, Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrist to threaten the lives of our families? Make no mistake about it, what these racist vigilantes intend to do, judging from their past actions, has great potential to harm your loved ones including your children. We must not allow for these paranoid crazies to turn the friendly Mexican/Anglo relationship, we presently enjoy in the southwest, into the type of relationship that Palestinians and Zionists in the Holy Land struggle with.


    Glenn Spencer burning a Mexican flag in front of the Mexican Embassy in D.C.
    Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are generally a peace loving people. Our history, however, shows that we have great warrior legacies both on the Aztec and the Spanish sides. The US can not presently afford additional world enemies. The nation of Mexico presently provides a great "security buffer" for the USA southern flank. What would happen if the Minuteman vigilantes instigate the alienation of Mexico and the country allows the infiltration of the Mara Salvatruchas, Al-Queda and every South and Central American subversive group eager to attack the USA?

    If the Minutemen vigilantes commit atrocities against Mexicans, or God forbid against Mexican-Americans, there will be retaliations against Anglos in major cities like Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, San Antonio, El Paso and the like. Already anti-Mexican hate crimes like the the decapitations of three Mexican children in Baltimore, Maryland, the bludgeoning to death of a Mexican mother and daughter in Fremont, California and the burning to death of Mexican families in an arson fire in Columbus, Ohio has placed the Mexican/Anglo relationship on the brink. The Mexican and Mexican-American communities can not and will not put up with any more injustices.

    There are signs that our youths are about ready to act out politically. One sign took place recently in Ceres, California when a decorated US Marine of Mexican descent decide to bring Fallujah back to his hometown. US Marine Andres Raya took on six police agencies with an assault rifle killing one police officer and critically injuring another. There is ample evidence that the act was politically motivated. Andres Raya told his friends that he did not believe in the Iraq War and the police released a picture showing Raya and his friends burning a US flag in the high school gym.

    Today, we are seeing the increasing politicization of groups like the 18th Street gang and the Mara Salvatruchas. These two groups are increasingly acting more like insurgents than common street gangs. We hear talk that Mexican families are readying themselves for any attack from white vigilantes or rogue white racist cops. Also, there are rumors that the 18th Street gang and the Mara Salvatruchas are forming an alliance to battle their real common enemy. Most interesting of all, there are efforts among US Marines of Mexican descent to form a super secret battalion to respond to any attack of the Mexican-American community. Word is there is already such a battalion at Camp Pendleton where US Marine Andres Raya was assigned.

    It would serve the interests of the general American population if US citizens put an immediate stop to the plans of groups like those of the paranoid Minutemen vigilantes. These people do not represent the large majority of sane and healthy Americans. The Minutemen are racists, bigots and xenophobes and are operating out of hate for Mexicans. They are endangering the peace and their actions will surely lead to consequences we will all eventually regret.
    If you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will give you trouble in the land where you will live.'

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    I sent Mr. Cienfuegos the following e-mail. You will never know how much self control it took to be nice.

    Mr. Ernesto Cienfuegos:
    The article "USA Hispanics along the border may become victims" might be the most misleading piece of trash
    journalism that I have ever read. The Minutemen are not
    vigilanties any more than you are. They want our soverign
    border respected by your fellow Mexican citizens and by
    the citizens of any other country who illegally enter or try to enter our country. If you want to do something really useful, why don't you start by teaching your fellow citizens to respect the laws of the United States?

    If you click on the newspaper link, there is a contact button. I suggest
    that we all send him a nice note.
    http://www.alipac.us Enforce immigration laws!

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    Good grief! And the MMP is a problem????
    Where's John Stossel when you need him...GIVE ME A BREAK!

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    These people are nuts and how dare they openly threaten the United States with a race war! The FBI and our Department of Homeland Security need to look in on these groups and their violent rhetoric immediately.

    The author claims to be in contact with and speak for armed gangs that are spread out across our nation. The author also threatens retaliation against white Americans in many cities.

    Someone check the law code, but I believe that advocating armed rebellion against the US Government or the US population can be punished by law.

    The chances are strongest that the writer of this trash does not speak for the gangs or anyone else and simply wants to threaten and intimidate the MMP and the American population with threats of unrest. That being said, we should not make any assumptions when these threats are against our citizens and our citizens.

    This needs to be investigated by the proper authorities and I encourage our readers to refrain from contacting this group directly. I don't feel there is any sense in trying to rationalize or negotiate with them as their threats against American citizens seem like terrorism in my humble opinion.

    Everyone is free to do as the like, but our government is supposed to address threats like these. It is high time they did the job we pay them to do.

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    Alipac said, "The author claims to be in contact with and speak for armed gangs that are spread out across our nation. The author also threatens retaliation against white Americans in many cities.

    Someone check the law code, but I believe that advocating armed rebellion against the US Government or the US population can be punished by law."

    You CANNOT make this stuff up! Hey, we all know where a bunch of these gangs are, EVERYWHERE. The feds don't want to fix this problem. The only thing I can think to do is hammer the congress everyday. Maybe we should aim a protest, something at the State Dept. as well. Condi needs a clue.

    More on Latino gangs here,

    GANG LAND
    http://www.alipac.us/article--1-flat-1-242.html#236

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    Slander suit

    If all goes well with the MMP during the operation, I think a slander law suit would be well in order against Ernesto Cienfuegos and La Voz de Aztlan which is out of calif.
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    A report on this article has been filed with the Department of Homeland Security and they will review the material and consider taking "appropriate action" through the FBI.

    W

    PS: Do we know if this website is hosted and if this author is even in the US?
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    Just sent Jim at MMP an email to keep the faith and let him know we all are keeping him and the group in our thoughts.
    Pissz me off when they talk ugle about a fellow/brother RVN vet.
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    Hey JAS:

    We have that Gang Land article by Malkin on our site. Mind editing your post to point at our copy on our site instead of TOS?

    Hey EVERYONE:

    DHS called and said they are going to PROCEED to investigate this and they recommend that we notify our local FBI field offices with this information for a faster response/investigation.

    I will do that on my end Monday morning.

    If anyone wants to write polite letters on this issue, I recommend that you call, write, and email the link to this article and perhaps the earlier article about the MS-13 threat to the MMP to your local FBI field office.

    If these people do anything to harm our citizens, we need it documented and on the record that the law enforcement agencies responsible for these matters have been contacted in a civic and assisting way.

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