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    Democratic members have increasingly expressed support for a physical barrier on the U.S.-Mexico border over the course of immigration negotiations, making it harder for party leaders to ignore their positions.

    Prior to the lengthy partial government shutdown, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer seemed to have complete control over the members of his party, even those who had expressed support for the wall during election campaigns.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — then the House minority leader — promised that she would not appropriate a single dollar to the wall, despite Trump’s promise of a shutdown if he did not receive $5.7 billion to build on the border.

    But a number of rank and file Democrats have since said that they support a physical barrier in concert with other border security measures, perhaps due to pressure from the extended shutdown and a desire to prevent another one.

    Freshman California Rep. Katie Hill, Washington Rep. Adam Smith, and Illinois Rep. Cheri Bustos have all conceded that fencing in certain areas is something that they are not reflexively opposed to.

    Virginia Rep. Elaine Luria, along with 30 other members, urged Speaker Pelosi to make a deal with Trump in a letter last week and offered perhaps the most accurate view of Trump’s border proposal by Democrats yet.

    U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence meet with Congressional leadership including House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), House Speaker Paul Ryan, (R- WI) , Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in the Oval Office of the White House on December 7, 2017 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Olivier Douliery – Pool/Getty Images)

    “He’s not talking about a wall from sea to shining sea,” Luria said. “That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about physical barriers as recommended by experts.”

    New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan told CNN on Monday, “We all pledged to work in good faith to find common ground on border security. That’s what I’m committed to doing, and I think that really starts with making sure we’re listening to the experts on the front lines on this, and that may include strategic fencing in certain places.”

    But even high-ranking Pelosi loyalists are now publicly signaling that they might be open to a deal with the president.

    Virginia Sen. Mark Warner claimed during an NPR radio interview Tuesday morning that the White House is not negotiating in “good faith” over border security. When pressed on why Democrats haven’t moved from their initial negotiating position, Warner claimed he supported physical barriers all along.

    “No, listen, I’ve said repeatedly that increased border security, even if some of that means a barrier, but it ought to be based upon the experts who know how to spend funds at the border — not some arbitrary number picked by the president,” Warner said.

    Warner also told Fox News last week, “I know we’re going to have to add additional border security … We’ve got about 700 miles of existing fencing. Where folks say we need additional barrier protections, I’m all for it.”

    The real test of whether or not Democrats are willing to budge will come from the negotiating committee they created after the government reopened Friday night. The members of the committee include Sens. Patrick Leahy, Dick Durbin and Jon Tester and Reps. Nita Lowey, Lucille Roybal-Allard, David Price, Barbara Lee, Henry Cuellar and Pete Aguilar.

    Unfortunately for the president, many of those congresspeople have signaled a deep unwillingness to fund anything resembling a wall. However, the increased public support for a wall from other members in their party may put pressure on the committee to be open-minded and eventually reach a deal that is favorable to both sides.

    Pelosi acknowledged that Trump reopened the government by extending an invitation for him to deliver a State of the Union address next Tuesday, but she has not indicated publicly whether or not she will now negotiate on the wall.

    Members of her party are speaking for her during her apparent silence — and many of them are open to a wall.
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    Their families pay the cost of this invasion just like all American's do.

    Shut the border down and send them back!

    We cannot take in every person on the planet.

    Sign an Executive Order that ALL UAC's will be processed within 48 hours and sent back into the care and custody of their President.

    Mexico does not want them...we do not want them!

    We do not have the money or space in our schools for millions of illegal alien foreigners!

    Treating their diseases will cost us a fortune and if we get sick from these infectious diseases it will affect our daily lives and we pay for our treatments too!

    We cannot put millions of foreigners on free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, free childbirth and free school!

    It is expensive to live here...we cannot afford our own housing, school and medical care!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Warner also told Fox News last week, “I know we’re going to have to add additional border security … We’ve got about 700 miles of existing fencing.
    What a disgusting misrepresentation

    300 miles of that 700 looks like this and it does nothing to keep a human from crossing.

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