Thread: My Lunch With Lou Dobbs

February 21, 2008
Editorial Observer
Broken Borders and Dover Sole: My Lunch With Lou Dobbs

By LAWRENCE DOWNES
So I was having lunch at the Four Seasons with Lou Dobbs the other day, locked in disagreement over who cared more about working people, him or me.

Him: CNN host, biggest and loudest gun in the battle for tougher immigration policies, leader of a nightly crusade to expose the misdeeds of those he views as elitist fools and scoundrels.

Me: editorial writer whose views on immigration qualify, to Mr. Dobbs and many others on his side of the debate, as elitist, foolish and scoundrelly.

Meeting at the Four Seasons was his idea, to continue a long, civil and inconclusive phone conversation about immigration. I got there early and waited at Mr. Dobbs’s banquette. I looked around the hushed room, full of dark suits and a wintry glow. Mr. Dobbs appeared and settled in, his drink, cranberry juice and seltzer, materializing at his right elbow.

In the spirit of the occasion, I ordered strictly within our borders: lobster bisque, filet of bison and New York tap water. He had the Dover sole.

Among people whose immigration views I admire, Mr. Dobbs has a reputation as a hopeless blowhard. I did not dwell on that at lunch. I was his guest, and I had seen what happens if you try to skewer him with insult or accusation. Mr. Dobbs is unencumbered by self-doubt. The granite fortress of his certitude is smooth and featureless, and whatever boulders you hurl at it will end up on your head. Besides, I was looking for something better than an argument. I wanted to convert him.

An honest person must concede a lot when arguing immigration with Mr. Dobbs: Yes, the borders and ports are insecure, and poor countries like Mexico have done too little to solve their economic and migration problems. Yes, illegal immigration hurts some Americans, globalization causes many global problems and big corporations love to stick it to the little guy.

My point to Mr. Dobbs was that the little-little guy — the “illegal alienâ€

Now fines the employers of illegal aliens 25,000 dollars per illegal alien employed. It is a State Law, and way ahead of any Federal inaction.

It's working, the illegals are repatriating themselves.

My folks say that the shantytown under the town bridge is now abandoned.

Pass one in your State today. Leaving our future in the hands of one man, no matter how good, is unwise. We are the way. Work in your State, it is way more effective.

What a one-sided hit piece of crap by some blowhard asshat New York Times jackass. This fool likes to hear himseld talk and see his talk in writing cause he hardly gave any ink to Dobbs. Who the hell cares what this code pinko commie writer thinks? God I hate these commies, socialists and open border globalists at the NY Times.

"So why not legalize and tax them? Assimilate the good guys, as this country has always done, and save law enforcement for the bad ones. "


The problem with that is that they don't want to assimilate.

Just as I thought, there is no way to leave any comment directly at the New York Times regarding this crap journalism.

Mr. Downes probably didnt hear much Lou was saying. Every word being filtered by his own way of thinking. Thats the real problem with people like that. They claim to be open minded to other ideas, but in truth, they are the most closed minded people. The prototype for a smuggers journalist. Oh yeah, its from the NY Times. Lou gets credit for trying. Anyone here care what they had for lunch?

I don't think I'd like to take out Mr. Downes to lunch. I think I will take him to three funerals for the children in Minnesota. Yes, three -because on set of parents will be burying two sons.


Write an article about the poor 'little guy' immigrant now Mr. Downes.

Spitting mad...

[quote]Mr. Dobbs admits that mass deportation would never work, although if you press him on what to do about the 12 million, he has no answer. He wants to hold that question “in abeyanceâ€

If he works for the NY Times you know it is twisted leftist crap.

How is this paper even in business? I guess its the 300,000 people on the New York governement payroll keeping it going.

If I were Juan McCain and the aligations they made against him were untrue as he says they are, why isn't he suing them for slander?