Thread: ANCIR poll: High imm levels affect the cost of the hlth care

ANCIR poll: High immigration levels affect the cost of the health care system
16. September 2009 05:42

The American Council for Immigration Reform (ANCIR) national poll on immigration and its impact on health care issues conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC, of 1,000 likely voters on August 26, 2009 found that 78% of Americans believe that high immigration levels have had an adverse impact on the quality and cost of our health care system.

Republicans (89%) felt more strongly on the issue, but Democrats (69%) were not far behind. Other key findings were:

Seventy-three percent (73%) of likely voters agreed that hospitals should be allowed to inquire and collect data about the immigration status of those seeking Emergency Room care without affecting the legal requirement that they must provide emergency care. Just 18% said no.

Seventy-seven percent (77%) of the respondents believed that providing health insurance to illegal immigrants will just encourage more illegal immigration.

After receiving emergency medical care, if it is determined that an illegal immigrant will require long term follow-up medical care, 47% believed that the person should be deported to his/her home country. 38% believed care should be provided, but time and cost limits should be established for eventual deportation. Only 8% believed long term care should be provided in the U.S.

Eighty-three percent (83%) of likely voters were very or somewhat concerned that the United States will add 135 million people to its population in the next 40 years, 75% of which is due to immigration. Republicans (90%) were more concerned than Democrats (74%).

Seventy-eight percent (78%) of likely voters were opposed to legalizing the status of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. with only 19% supporting it. 88% of African-Americans were opposed to legalization.

Fifty-five percent (55%) were opposed to a government insurance option under any national health care plan with 28% in favor and 17% not sure. 73% of Republicans were opposed with 11% in favor. A plurality of Democrats (47%) supported a government option with 34% opposed and 19% unsure.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/200909 ... ystem.aspx

Only an idiot or liar would think it wouldn't!

Anyone taken a visit to the ER lately? There are very few patients that even speak English. of course illegals add a huge price tag to our health care system and the price tag will get even larger if they get amnesty.

That is why we should begin healthcare reform by repealing the "Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act" (EMTALA) of 1986. Please see information about EMTALA and "Paying the Price for Illegal Health Care" below:

EMTALA, Unfunded Emergency Room Care, and Health Care Reform

The same year it passed the "Immigration and Reform Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), the U.S. Congress also passed the "Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act" (EMTALA), requiring hospitals and ambulance services in the United States that accept payments under the Medicare program to provide emergency medical care regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. There is no reimbursement provision. It would seem that the results of this unfunded mandate by the federal government may have led directly to the situation which we are now told requires "immediate health care reform" by Congress.

I heard a Congressman on CNN in mid-August defending the Democrats' 'public health care option' on the basis that "when uninsured people go to the emergency room and don't pay their bills, that cost is passed up by the hospitals to the insurance companies, which adds it onto the cost of insured people's premiums. Covering all the uninsured would solve this."

Below is the introduction of an explanation of EMTALA at Wikipedia with a link to the entire article. From this explanation, it seems repealing the " Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act" (EMTALA) might do a great deal more toward solving our current "health care cost crisis" than passing yet another federal health care mandate.

"There is also debate about the extent to which EMTALA has led to cost-shifting and higher rates for insured or paying hospital patients, thereby contributing to the high overall rate of medical inflation in the U.S."

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_ ... _Labor_Act

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (42 U.S.C. § 1395dd, EMTALA) is a United States Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. It requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.

"EMTALA applies to "participating hospitals", i.e., those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program. However, in practical terms, EMTALA applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners Hospitals for Children, Indian Health Service hospitals, and Veterans Affairs hospitals. The combined payments of Medicare and Medicaid, $602 billion in 2004,[1] or roughly 44% of all medical expenditures in the U.S., make not participating in EMTALA impractical for nearly all hospitals. EMTALA's provisions apply to all patients, and not just to Medicare patients.[2][3]

"The cost of emergency care required by EMTALA is not directly covered by the federal government. Because of this, the law has been criticized by some as an unfunded mandate.[4] Similarly, it has attracted controversy for its impacts on hospitals, and in particular, for its possible contributions to an emergency medical system that is "overburdened, underfunded and highly fragmented".[5] MORE THAN HALF OF ALL EMERGENCY ROOM CARE IN THE U.S. NOW GOES UNCOMPENSATED. Hospitals write off such care as charity or bad debt for tax purposes. Increasing financial pressures on hospitals in the period since EMTALA's passage have caused consolidations and closures, so the number of emergency rooms is decreasing despite increasing demand for emergency care.[6] There is also debate about the extent to which EMTALA has led to cost-shifting and higher rates for insured or paying hospital patients, thereby contributing to the high overall rate of medical inflation in the U.S."

and

"Paying The Price For Illegal Immigrant Care"

Investor's Business Daily
August 24, 2009 Monday

Last decade, the Clinton administration added teeth to a little-known Health and Human Services Department regulation mandating that hospitals provide emergency treatment even to illegals.

Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, or EMTALA, hospitals can't even ask for a patient's immigration status or ability to pay prior to delivering treatment. They also can't keep such uninsured patients waiting, even if their problem isn't an emergency. Nor can they discharge them until they're fully stabilized and have safe transportation.

More, hospitals must post EMTALA signs in Spanish and English. The law isn't limited to ERs. Hospitals must accept illegals at any facility on campus -- including outpatient clinics and doctor's offices -- located within 250 yards of the main buildings.

Hospitals end up treating uninsured illegals for the sniffles and other nonurgent care, and pass that exorbitant cost on to the insured, the Government Accountability Office has found. Resulting overcrowding leads to delays in "care for patients with true emergency needs."

This unfunded federal mandate has placed a heavy and unfair financial burden on more than 1,500 hospitals across the country, according to HHS data, costing billions in unpaid bills by some estimates.

entire article at:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-168074-emtala.html

Boom! Boom! Boom!

Seventy-eight percent (78%) of likely voters were opposed to legalizing the status of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. with only 19% supporting it. 88% of African-Americans were opposed to legalization.

Properly utilized, this poll can greatly damage the Open Borders Lobby attempts to confuse the public otherwise.

W

added to the homepage and going out to the nation now!

New title and note added

Certified Poll: 78% of Americans Oppose Obama's Immigration Plans!

ALIPAC NOTE: The findings of this poll are so dramatic that proper deployment across the nation can politically crush President Obama's plans to push this unpopular amnesty legislation in 2009!. Please distribute copies of this polling information to each of your elected officials and all members of the national and local media. For those of you standing with ALIPAC, you have more assurances that four out of five Americans agree with our enforcement only stances. The findings that 78% oppose legalizing the 12 million illegal aliens directly refutes the designer polls circulated by the Open Borders Lobby. These readings on health care can be equally crushing to Obama's health care legislation.

http://www.alipac.us/article4517.html

Every MSM outlet will be reporting about this poll sometime today. /// NOT!

These poll numbers are great. I will try with the local media. I don't usually have much luck if any though.

I tried to post this on digg and was not able to becuase of the google anti-fraud/malware checking used by digg.



Robert

Originally Posted by WindowsForEver

I tried to post this on digg and was not able to becuase of the google anti-fraud/malware checking used by digg.



Robert

Actually nevermind... i cleared all my browser cache and now i am no longer getting the errorm *when viewing any alipac material on digg). i will try and post again.