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    New NY Senator Now Against Deporting Undocumented Workers

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    Senator shifts
    immigration views
    GILLIBRAND'S ABOUT-FACE: Newly
    appointed lawmaker now against
    deporting undocumented workers
    By MARC HELLER
    TIMES WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT
    TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2009
    WASHINGTON — Sen.
    Kirsten E. Gillibrand took all of
    a week to do an about-face on
    immigration issues for her new
    big-city constituents,
    proclaiming Monday that she is against deporting
    undocumented immigrants and is open to letting
    them become U.S. citizens.
    Her first big test on that question, though, may
    not be in the city at all, but in the milk houses and
    orchards of upstate New York, where her stand
    against undocumented workers has frustrated farm
    groups for two years.
    Two senators may bring the farm immigration
    debate back to the Senate early this year, and the
    Senate Agriculture Committee — which Mrs.
    Gillibrand, D-N.Y., has just joined — could play a
    background role.
    Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vermont, has said he
    wants to reintroduce a farm guest worker bill soon,
    figuring it has a better chance of becoming law with
    Barack Obama in the White House. Farm lobbyists
    expect Sen. Dianne M. Feinstein, D-Calif., to propose
    an immigration bill for farm workers, called AgJobs,
    by spring, following six fruitless years of trying to
    pass it. The bills would typically come before the
    Judiciary Committee, but probably not without input
    from members of the Agriculture Committee, which
    has been a roadblock in the past.
    The last attempt to advance AgJobs failed when
    leaders of the Senate Agriculture Committee refused
    to include it in a five-year farm bill last year. Its
    inclusion threatened to sink the bill.
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    The timing now may be awkward. Mrs. Gillibrand
    could win the support of both farmers and urban
    immigrant communities by softening her stand, but
    supporting a bill to expand employment for noncitizens
    is riskier when upstate employers are laying
    off U.S. citizens by the thousands.
    Even the American Farm Bureau Federation,
    which supports AgJobs, finds the timing
    uncomfortable. President Obama endorsed it as a
    candidate last summer, but "that was a significantly
    different economy then," said Paul Schlegel, director
    of public policy for the AFBF.
    Immigration dogged Mrs. Gillibrand long before
    she became Gov. David A. Paterson's choice to fill the
    state's vacant U.S. Senate seat. During a 2007 debate
    on immigration policy, the New York Farm Bureau
    and others in favor of giving undocumented workers
    a chance to stay on farms tried in vain to convince
    Mrs. Gillibrand to join their cause — even though it
    was the Farm Bureau's top legislative priority in
    2007, and she had been popular with farm groups.
    Mrs. Gillibrand, in fact, was more strident on the
    issue than most of the Republicans in the state's
    House delegation, who generally lined up to
    cosponsor the AgJobs bill. Mrs. Gillibrand declined
    to join them, taking the view the 12 million or so
    undocumented immigrants in the United States —
    many of them working on farms — should not be in
    the country at all.
    Anything short of deportation, she said at the
    time, would amount to "amnesty, " which she told
    reporters again last week she opposes.
    By Monday, however, the headlines suggested
    otherwise.
    Mrs. Gillibrand emerged from weekend meetings
    with Hispanic leaders to tell a New York City
    television news station for Spanish speakers she will
    ask President Obama to immediately halt
    deportations, and she now supports a path to
    citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
    A spokeswoman for Mrs. Gillibrand did not
    immediately return a message Monday seeking
    comment on the immigration issue and whether she
    would now support AgJobs legislation.
    AgJobs would affect the dairy industry,
    particularly, by opening the H2A seasonal visa
    program to year-round dairy farm workers for the
    first time.
    Immigrant labor is now an important part of the
    dairy industry upstate, employing thousands of
    workers, farm experts say. Farms in Jefferson County
    alone employ as many as 500, the Jefferson County
    Agricultural Development Corp. estimates, while
    some 25,000 immigrants work on farms of all types
    across the state.
    The apple industry especially relies on immigrant
    labor, without which New York's apple crop could not
    be picked, the New York Farm Bureau has said. New
    York ranks second in apple production nationally,
    behind Washington state. Farm experts say many of
    those workers are probably undocumented, and the
    threat of raids and tough enforcement scares away
    legitimate immigrant labor, as well.
    Indeed, Mrs. Gillibrand's stance against
    undocumented workers was all the more striking
    because her congressional district included one of the
    leading apple-producing parts of the state. But the
    district is also overwhelmingly Republican in voter
    registration, and she said constituents were clearly
    against giving those workers a chance to stay here.
    The senator has said she supports a guest worker
    program for newly arrived workers, which would
    involve a period of time in the United States, then a
    period of time in their home country before returning
    to this country temporarily. She has said the period
    of time here would have to be long enough to be
    useful to farmers.
    Proponents have proposed varying versions of the
    timeline. Rep. John M. McHugh, R-Pierrepont
    Manor, last year proposed legislation to allow for a
    three-year period of admission, to be followed by a
    possible three-year extension, with no requirement to
    leave the United States before an extension.
    Five upstate lawmakers, both Democrats and
    Republicans, signed on, but not Mrs. Gillibrand.

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    I guess someone passed her some of the kool aid.
    We can't deport them all ? Just think of the fun we could have trying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justonehero
    I guess someone passed her some of the kool aid.
    or a whole wad of money ... these politicians are bought and paid for
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    That is CRAP

    I want to know WHO changed her mind and HOW was it done?

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    Another political traitor who has no business anywhere near a position of leadership, representing AMERICA OR HER CITIZENS!

    What a disgrace! Talk about having no character, principles or values!!!
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    Welcome to ALIPAC dmeische and good post as well
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    Welcome dmeisch! We are supposed to put a link at the bottom of articles we post. Here's the link:

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    She obviously was promised something for a dramatic change in her core values concerning Illegal immigration. Shes going to get alot of heat in the next few days.
    “In questions of power…let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” –Thomas Jefferson

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