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    News from Hawaii

    Looks like folks in Hawaii have their own problems.
    Sound very much like ours.

    Here is the link:

    http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story....1-7541cae9db52

    The Akaka Bill Could Give Birth to the Nation of Aztlan
    Shoots from the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii - June 14, 2005
    By Don Newman, 6/14/2005 2:13:52 AM

    Aztlan -- have you ever heard of it? You know, the nation that encompasses what used to be all of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and southern Colorado as well as most of Northern Mexico. There is no such nation you say? Well, a University of New Mexico Chicano Studies professor named Charles Truxillo says that it is “an inevitability.�

    The influx of illegal aliens, especially from Mexico, that come and settle in that general area is seen as a precursor for the formation of this new nation. By establishing themselves in overwhelming numbers they intend to create such a huge voting block that the nation of Aztlan could be voted into reality.

    This could never happen legally you say. There could be no legal precedent for the formation of a new sovereign nation within the borders of the United States that could form the seed for such a new nation. Well, the irony is that legal precedence may come from, of all places, Hawaii.

    The intent of the Akaka bill is to do just that, create a new sovereign nation within the borders of the United States. The criterion is the “blood quantum� or traceable lineage of anyone who qualifies according to the established definitions as “Hawaiian.� What kind of government will be the ultimate result of such an arrangement is anybody’s guess.

    Now, there will be those who will quibble as to the actual nature of the “sovereign nation� and they may be right. That is not the point of this editorial. The point is the precedence this bill will set if it passes. If Hawaiians can lay a claim to the ceded lands of Hawaii then why can’t Mexicans who were forced off their land in 1848 have a similar claim?

    MEChA is a radical pro-Mexico student group that says it is committed to "the physical liberation of Occupied America" and a separate Hispanic nation in the Southwest U.S. It's motto is "Por La Raza Todo, Fuera de La Raza Nada: for the race, everything; outside the race, nothing."

    Notice the same race based definition as that of the Akaka Bill. Once the precedent has been established that race is the criterion for land, government and inclusion then where does that end? It then becomes a pell-mell scuffle for land and power, nothing more.

    The idea that precedents cannot lead to such absurd conclusions was recently demonstrated to be wrong by the Supreme Court’s decision on medical marijuana. The original decision concerning the wheat farmer who grew a couple hundred bushels of wheat for his own use that was ruled by the Supreme Court to be subject to the Commerce Clause of the Constitution was the precedence that led to the absurd conclusion that six marijuana plants grown for personal use were also subject to the same Commerce Clause although all commerce in the commodity is illegal.

    This is the way of such legal precedents, they lead down paths that no one could possibly have envisioned. Thus to say that the Akaka Bill could lead to the establishment of native Mexican tribes in the United States which would form the seed for the nation of Aztlan is not so farfetched. It certainly could come to pass in the full course of time.

    Don Newman, senior policy analyst for the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii, Hawaii's first and only free market public policy institute focused on individual freedom and liberty, can be reached at: newmand001@hawaii.rr.com

    This editorial is intended to provoke thought, discussion and an examination of issues. It does not reflect official policy of the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii. See the GRIH Web site at: http://www.grassrootinstitute.org/

    HawaiiReporter.com reports the real news, and prints all editorials submitted, even if they do not represent the viewpoint of the editors, as long as they are written clearly. Send editorials to Malia@HawaiiReporter.com

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    Good one Lobo!!

    Front Pager http://www.alipac.us/article-472--0-0.html

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    Terrific. So the people who are running around calling everyone else racists turn out to be the biggest racists of all.
    <div>Illegal immigration - the Trojan Horse that's treated like a Sacred Cow</div>

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    Welcome aboard Tarantulas!!! Glad to have you with us! I checked out your web site, looks great!

    The influx of illegal aliens, especially from Mexico, that come and settle in that general area is seen as a precursor for the formation of this new nation. By establishing themselves in overwhelming numbers they intend to create such a huge voting block that the nation of Aztlan could be voted into reality.
    Why is our goverment allowing this? And in most cases aiding these people to take OUR land. I don't get it... I just don't get it!!!
    Equal rights for all, special privileges for none. Thomas Jefferson

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    The Eight Problems With The Akaka Bill

    http://stopakaka.com/2003/prob.html

    The Eight Problems With The Akaka Bill That OHA And CNHA Don't Want You To Know About -

    1.) The bill makes the Department of the Interior the lead agency responsible for all policies that affect Native Hawaiian resources, rights and lands..

    Did you know the Department of the Interior has been deemed an "unfit trustee" by a US federal court and its lead officials cited for contempt of court by a federal judge ? Over 40 million acres and as much as $137 billion are missing right now in Indian assets. Do you want that to happen to Hawaiian lands and money?

    In the last 5 years, officials of the department have destroyed documents, disobeyed court orders, and lied to the court, repeatedly in cases that seek to account for Indian money and land for which the Department of the interior is responsible. For court papers and documentation see www.indiantrust.com

    2.) The bill requires the Hawaiian constitution to contain language that gives the officials of the governing entity the authority to permanently settle Hawaiians claims for reparations, reinstated independence, land, damages from the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii, and all other Hawaiian claims without the approval of Hawaiian voters.

    What this means is that so-called leaders of a Native Hawaiian governing entity under the Akaka bill can decide basic issues that effect you and your 'ohana directly like receiving money for damages relating to stolen land and the illegal overthrow. And, you and you 'ohana will not be allowed to say a single word about the decisions these new bureaucrats will make for you!

    3.) The bill installs a racial definition of "Hawaiian" where no such definition ever existed in Hawaii outside of U.S. law.

    In other words, foreigners will "help" you decide who is Hawaiian and who isn't. Would you want a stranger to have the power to decide who is a member of your 'ohana and who isn't?

    4.) The bill defines Hawaiians living today as the descendants of pre western contact aboriginal native people rather than descendants subjects of the kingdom of Hawaii severely damaging Hawaiians rights to land title in the Hawaiian Islands. Federal law limits the rights of aboriginal people to the right to use and occupy land but not to own it or sell it as aboriginal people . A blanket claims settlement will end even these limited rights as it has for scores of tribes since 1970.
    What this means is that Hawaiians will in effect be saying to the US federal government, "you were right to come in and overthrow our Queen.You may have all our land that you stole. We don't want them back. You know what's best for Hawaiians more than Hawaiians do. And we give up forever our right to sue the US government if it doesn't keep its word with Hawaiians."

    5.) The bill makes restored Hawaiian independence unlawful. Title 25 of the United States code prohibits Indian Tribes, and federally recognized Alaskans and Hawaiians by extension from being recognized as independent Nations: 25 USC chapter 3 subchapter I Sec 71: "No Indian nation or tribe within the territory of the United States shall be acknowledged or recognized as an independent nation, tribe, or power. . ."

    Stop and think - can you name even one Indian tribe than received US federal recognition and then went on to become independent ? You can't because it never happened! The reason the US government wants to pass the Akaka bill is to try to stop Hawaiian rights in its tracks!

    6.) The bill creates a permanent political relationship in which Hawaiians are subordinate to the United States forever.

    Under the Akaka bill, Hawaiians will have the legal status of wards of the US federal government. Did you know that prisoners currently incarcerated in US federal prisons are also wards of the US federal government? Do you see yourself as a criminal? Do you want to be lumped in the same legal classification with them? You will be under the Akaka bill!

    7.) Finally, the Akaka bill will ensure litigation in courts in the years ahead caused by a poor definition of the rights Hawaiians can expect under US federal law.

    If you think lawsuits are coming fast and furious at Hawaiians now, just wait! Hawaiians will be forced to spend enormous amounts of money to defend their so-called "rights" in the Akaka bill if it passes. And guess where those suits will eventually end up? That's right, in the hands of an increasingly anti-Indian, and therefore anti-Hawaiian US Supreme Court.


    The bill does not guarantee that Hawaiian federal entitlements will be protected

    When was the last time Hawaiians trusted US bureaucrats to do the right thing for Hawaiians and the US actually did it?


    Don't buy the lie that the Akaka bill is the best we can get! The US federal government is trying to contain us just like they did a century ago by saying then, "you'd better accept annexation because it's the best deal you're going to get." They were lying to Hawaiians then and their lying now!

    Did it turn out to be a good deal? Have Hawaiians gotten their nation and lands back? Let them know you know the truth!





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