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    Police union vs. Bratton over Special Order 40

    LA Times Blogs
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    Police union vs. Bratton over Special Order 40

    A proposal to change the LAPD's controversial policy dealing with undocumented immigrants picked up a powerful ally today, the Los Angeles Police Protective League. The union, which represents more than 9,000 LAPD officers, said it is backing a motion introduced last week by Los Angeles Councilman Dennis Zine that would require officers to check on the immigration status of gang members suspected of being undocumented immigrants -- even if they are not under arrest.

    That motion would change LAPD's Special Order 40, which restricts officers' ability to inquire about a person's immigration status. Zine introduced the motion after the parents of slain high school football star Jamiel Shaw Jr., who was allegedly killed by an undocumented immigrant, made an emotional plea before the council to amend Special Order 40. In a statement, league President Tim Sands said:

    “Councilman Zine’s motion offers a common-sense approach that will give our officers a needed tool to remove dangerous gang members from the communities they are threatening. This motion will improve and enhance our officers’ ability to provide security in the neighborhoods where hard-working men and women, immigrants or native born, are trying to protect themselves and their families from gang violence.â€
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    Well the fight with the "Gang Mayor" of LA begins . It will be a soap opera for the press ,who will only print half truths as we know .
    All this mess was set in motion decades ago . How do we enforce and win for the American way against such Evil ?
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    Why won't our elected officials let police do their job and protect it's citizens. It must have something to do with pay-offs.
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    I'm happy to see the police union is on the right side of this issue. This means the rank and file must have expressed their desire to be able to go after illegal gang bangers before they kill more innocent American Citizens!

    How come the police force is not being allowed to protect the citizens of LA when they clearly have the desire to do so!

    Chief Bratton, you have some explaining to do!
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    Well good for the union.

    Police are law enforcement officers which translates into making sure people follow the laws. Obviously many officers would like to help do just that. Why anyone thinks illegal alien gang members should be protected is beyond my comprehension.

    This subject has been quite the subject of discussion on some talk radio shows out here.
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    LA talk radio host Kevin James -- very strong against illegal immigration -- is very critical on Zine's motion, basically calling it a charade that won't do anything. He's probably right, but perhaps it would be a small first step.

    But it's probably moot anyway, as I doubt the PC pandering ostriches on the LA City Council will even pass it (Zine's motion).
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    John and Ken were talking about it again today too.

    People ought to talk about it more and quit trying to ignore the situation.
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    This is probably the first time the police union has taken a position on Special Order 40, officials tell The Times' Richard Winton. Today's announcement pits the union against LAPD Chief William Bratton. The chief has come out strongly against the motion, saying it amounts to "racial profiling." Instead, he proposes providing officers with more info on Special Order 40, which he said is widely misunderstood.
    Isn't that part of his job anyway? To make sure the the PD UNDERSTANDS what they can do with Special Order 40? He should be held liable for this "oversight". Get rid of it and crack down HARD on illegal aliens. Get rid of Bratton and Villar too!
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    I used to respect Bratton. Not anymore.
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