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    NYC threatens up to $250,000 in fines for using terms like 'illegal alien'

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    NYC threatens up to $250G in fines for using terms like 'illegal alien,' threatening to call ICE

    By Sam Dorman | Fox News


    New York City's Commission on Human Rights announced on Thursday that residents could face up to $250,000 in fines if they use terms such as "illegal alien ... with intent to demean, humiliate or harass a person."

    "Hate has no place here," a tweet from the City of New York read. The city's announcement ticked off a list of offensive ways to address immigrants -- including threatening to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), or harassing someone for their "limited English proficiency."


    "Threatening to call ICE when motivated by discrimination, derogatory use of the term 'illegal alien,' and discrimination based on limited English proficiency are unlawful discriminatory treatment under the NYC Human Rights Law," the announcement read.


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    It clarified that calling ICE with a "discriminatory motive" was a violation. It was not immediately clear what New York City would consider a call to ICE lacking in "discriminatory motive."


    "Fines of up to $250,000 can be assessed for each act of willful discrimination, and damages are available to complainants," the city said.

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    New Yorkers could also face fines if they use similar language towards a lawful resident or citizen whom they perceive to be in the country illegally.

    "The NYC Commission on Human Rights ... defines discrimination on the basis of perceived or actual immigration status and national origin under the New York City Human Rights Law in public accommodation, employment, and housing," the announcement read.


    The Commission on Human Rights has a history of censoring speech it deemed harmful. Composed of political appointees, the committee previously enacted a ban on employers and landlords using gender pronouns other than those preferred by employees and tenants. Violations of those regulations similarly carried a $250,000 fine if the offenders engaged in "willful, wanton, or malicious conduct."


    Thursday's announcement came as Democrats hammered the administration's immigration enforcement raids and cautioned against using the term "illegal alien." "No one is an 'alien,'" Rep. Ilham Omar, D-Minn., tweeted in June after Trump used the term.

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    The Associated Press has similarly admonished reporters for using "illegal" as a descriptor for immigrants. The wire service's 2013 style guide, instead, was updated to read: "Except in direct quotes essential to the story, use illegal only to refer to an action, not a person: illegal immigration, but not illegal immigrant.

    Acceptable variations include living in or entering a country illegally or without legal permission."


    But as Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, pointed out, "illegal alien" is the term used under federal law. Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions specifically directed his Justice Department not to use terms other than "illegal alien," which he said was based in U.S. code.

    “The word ‘undocumented’ is not based in US code and should not be used to describe someone’s illegal presence in the country,” he reportedly said in an agency-wide email.

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    These radical cities should be boycotted. There are plenty of places to take your vacation dollars besides NYC and SF.
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    City bans calling someone an ‘illegal alien’ out of hate

    By Rich Calder, Julia Marsh and Aaron Feis

    September 26, 2019 | 6:55pm
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    It’s now against the law in New York City to threaten someone with a call to immigration authorities or refer to them as an “illegal alien” when motivated by hate.
    The restrictions — violations of which are punishable by fines of up to $250,000 per offense — are outlined in a 29-page directive released by City Hall’s Commission on Human Rights.
    “‘Alien’ — used in many laws to refer to a ‘noncitizen’ person — is a term that may carry negative connotations and dehumanize immigrants, marking them as ‘other,'” reads one passage of the memo. “The use of certain language, including ‘illegal alien’ and ‘illegals,’ with the intent to demean, humiliate, or offend a person or persons constitutes discrimination.”
    The directive goes on to list several examples of acts and comments that would run afoul of the restrictions, including harassing people over their accents or grasp of English, or wielding the threat of a call to Immigration and Customs Enforcement as a tool of hate.
    “A hotel prohibits its housekeepers from speaking Spanish while cleaning because it would ‘offend’ hotel guests or make them uncomfortable,” reads one hypothetical.
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    “An Indian immigrant family complains to their landlord about mold and cockroaches in their unit. The landlord tells them to ‘just deal with it’ and threatens to call ICE if they file a complaint in housing court,” reads another.
    “A store owner tells two friends who are speaking Thai while shopping in his store to ‘speak English’ and ‘go back to your country,’ ” reads a third.
    The Commission on Human Rights made clear that the directive is, at least in part, a rebuke of federal crackdowns on illegal immigration.
    “In the face of increasingly hostile national rhetoric, we will do everything in our power to make sure our treasured immigrant communities are able to live with dignity and respect, free of harassment and bias,” said Carmelyn Malalis, the agency’s commissioner.
    The directive comes months after Mayor Bill de Blasio vocally opposed coordinated raids by ICE on the city’s immigrant communities.
    Meanwhile on Thursday, the Mayor’s Office of Immigrant Affairs announced a joint $1 million investment with the state to guarantee legal services to immigrants facing imminent deportation.


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    So, is non-legal alien O.K. ?
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    ICE arrests 82 illegal immigrants in sweeps across New York

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    New York City Will Fine You for Saying "Illegal Alien." That’s an Assault on the Cons

    New York City Will Fine You for Saying "Illegal Alien." That’s an Assault on the Constitution

    Oct. 4, 2019
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    1. This is an outrageous violation of the First Amendment.

    2. Under federal law, any individual in this country who is not a citizen is an alien.

    3. Any alien who is here without permission is here illegally. This should be the end of the story. But it is not in New York.


    The propaganda, surveillance, and censorship of Big Brother in George Orwell’s novel “1984” has now arrived in New York.

    The city’s Commission on Human Rights recently released new legal enforcement guidelines that ban the use of the term “illegal alien” by employers, housing providers (including hotels), and law enforcement as “discriminatory.” Violators can be punished with exorbitant and punitive fines—up to $250,000 per offense.

    In other words, the city will now censor and penalize anyone for using the correct legal term that has been used in both federal immigration law and numerous court decisions, including by the Supreme Court.

    This is an outrageous violation of the First Amendment.

    Open-borders advocates and pro-illegal alien groups have been waging a propaganda war for years, very successfully, to convince media outlets and government officials to abandon the term “illegal alien.”

    They want it replaced with a euphemism, the term “undocumented immigrant,” to disguise and hide the unlawful conduct of aliens who break our immigration laws and enter this country illegally.

    “Undocumented immigrant,” the preferred term used by the New York commission in its guidance, is a made-up term that ignores the law.

    As noted in a prior Daily Signal article, “illegal alien” is the correct legal term and it makes no sense to say you are being “offensive” when you use precise legal terminology.

    Federal District Court Judge Andrew Hanen explained this when issuing an injunction against President Barack Obama’s Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents, the so-called DAPA program:

    The court also understands that there is a certain segment of the population that finds the phrase “illegal alien” offensive. The court uses this term because it is the term used by the Supreme Court in its latest pronouncement pertaining to this area of the law. See Arizona v. U.S., 132 S. Ct. 2492 (2012).

    Federal immigration laws, such as 8 U.S.C. §1365, which deals with a reimbursement program the federal government has for states that are incarcerating illegal aliens, uses the term “illegal aliens” in its title and within the statute itself. An illegal alien is defined as anyone “who is in the United States unlawfully.”

    In fact, last year, the Department of Justice reminded its attorneys to use proper legal language in their briefs, which means using the term “illegal aliens.” Among the problem phrases it told its lawyers to purge from their lexicon was the term “undocumented immigrant.”

    So what is the city of New York going to do? Attempt to punish anyone who uses the correct legal terminology of federal law and court decisions?

    This action by New York is so far outside the bounds of what it can legally do, and such a fundamental violation of the First Amendment and common sense, that it is hard to imagine it’s anything other than a fictional plot in a book like “1984.” Unfortunately, it is not fiction.

    The Human Rights Commission supposedly limits the reach of this ban by saying it is only a violation when the term “illegal alien” is used with the “intent to demean, humiliate, or offend a person.”

    But this supposed limitation is not really a limitation since at the very same time, the commission says the very use of the word alien or alienage is “offensive” and may “carry negative connotations and dehumanize immigrants, marking them as ‘other.’”

    Does anyone really believe that there are any circumstances under which the Human Rights Commission would not find the use of the term “illegal aliens” to be demeaning, humiliating, or offensive?

    Anyone who believes that probably also believes that you can easily find affordable, up-scale housing in New York.

    The commission has also made it illegal harassment to call federal immigration authorities about the “actual” immigration status of individuals. So if an employer finds out that an employee is in the country unlawfully by contacting the Feds, he may be found in violation of the city ordinance.

    Moreover, an illegal alien can file a complaint with the Human Rights Commission over violations. According to the guidance, remedies, including “economic and emotional distress damages, are available under the [ordinance] regardless of an employee’s immigration status.”

    In other words, an illegal alien can sue if his employer or his landlord uses the correct legal terminology in referring to his legal (sorry, illegal) status.

    New York City makes it unlawful to refuse to provide housing to illegal aliens. It even has a provision on “associational discrimination” that makes it illegal for a landlord to refuse to rent an apartment to a U.S. citizen that the landlord knows will have illegal aliens living in the apartment.

    So if you are a human trafficker housing illegal aliens you’ve smuggled across the border in an apartment you’re renting, don’t worry. If the landlord finds out about it he will be barred from doing anything about it.

    Under federal law, any individual in this country who is not a citizen is an alien. And any alien who is here without permission is here illegally. This should be the end of the story. But it is not in New York.

    Justice Antonin Scalia once said that “[d]ay by day, case by case, the Supreme Court is busy designing a Constitution for a country I do not recognize.” The city of New York’s Commission on Human Rights is busy doing the same thing.

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