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    NYT: Mexico Owns California and Texas, Will Trade For Amnesty



    by NEIL MUNRO
    7 Apr 2017

    The New York Times has just published an op-ed article saying that Mexico may give up its rightful claim to ownership of Texas, California and the entire Southwest of the United States, but only if the U.S. government gives the hugely valuable prize of U.S. citizenship to many millions of Mexicans — plus citizenship for all their kids and grandkids, on and on, forever.

    The infinitely valuable compensation is justified because today’s Americans must wipe away the moral stain of war crimes committed in the 1840s by the U.S. military and government, says the op-ed by a Mexican historian and author, Enrique Krauze, who notably declined to forswear a alternative Mexican reconquista of the Southwest.

    MEXICO CITY — The United States invasion of Mexico in 1846 inflicted a painful wound that, in the 170 years that followed, turned into a scar. Donald Trump has torn it open again…

    … some Mexicans are proposing to remind Mr. Trump exactly what country was the first victim of American imperialism. They are calling for a lawsuit that would aim to nullify the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (signed on Feb. 2, 1848 ), in which Mexico — invaded by American soldiers, its capital occupied, its ports and customs stations seized — was forced to accept the American annexation of Texas and concede more than half the rest of Mexican territory, now including most of the states of Arizona, New Mexico and California…

    For us Mexicans, this is the chance for a kind of reconquest. Surely not the physical reconquest of the territories that once were ours. Nor an indemnification that should have been much greater than the feeble amount of $15 million that the American government paid, in installments, for the stolen land. We need a reconquest of the memory of that war so prodigal in atrocities inspired by racial prejudices and greed for territorial gain.

    But the best and most just reparation would be American immigration reform that could open the road to citizenship for the descendants of those Mexicans who suffered the unjust loss of half their territory
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    Curiously, Krauze does not mention Mexicans’ huge moral debt to the Spanish Empire, which successfully annihilated the savage Aztec Empire in the early 1500s at great cost to Spain’s aristocracy. Nor does Krauze mention the huge moral debt owed by Mexico’s population of European immigrants to the many Americans who developed electricity, invented aircraft, the computer, the idea of mass production, cheap autos, modern medicines, and television.

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    LOL!!! Oh lord, these stupid people who don't understand that when you have a war over territory, the victor wins the territory, who don't know that we not only won these lands in a war, were handed them in a treaty, we also paid for them, and some of them we paid twice, and let the Mexicans already here remain here with title to their lands if they so wanted.

    Mexico is not our friend, they never have been. We shouldn't waste our time with Mexico. We should spend our time improving our relationship with Russia. We have so much more in common with them than Mexico.
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    Nice try...
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    Mexico is definitely not a friend of Texas nor the US.

    Now there is some truth to the idea that Mexico 'owns' Texas. There are enough Mexican nationals in Texas, if given a vote, to take it over.

    The government is not giving out the true numbers. I don't believe they even know - nor do they care, but they are everywhere.
    When you go to a small town, 3,000 people. A town where there is no large industry to employ them, yet they are there in huge numbers, not just one or two here - but huge numbers. I was in a couple such towns yesterday. Although I know it's true, it is mind boggling and very disconcerting to see.

    Also, the other strange thing is the fact they are all doing very well, financially. They are living in nice ranch style houses, or houses that have been remodeled with a couple of new vehicles in the garage.

    So, yes, Mexico owns Texas - if it wants it. I'm not sure it wants it - it just wants to bleed it.
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    Mexico attacked the US and got their little butts kicked all the way back to Mexico City . Being good sportsmen, we PAID them for the territories and they jumped on the check. The US magnanimously let them keep the rest of Mexico and they have been sore losers and lechers since. The wall can't be tall enough. IMO
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    When Mexicans can take over their own country, they might be able to brag about taking over somebody else's country. Mexican life in the US is not self-sustaining. It is nothing but an economic largess granted by Catholic economic and political power in the US and paid for by everyone else.
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    They also where in correspondence with germany during our involvement in ww1
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    The also where in correspondence with germany during our involvement in ww1
    Oh yes, "MEXICO'S STRONG TIES TO THE NAZIS"!!

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    Again, we can pretend it isn't true, but believe me, if Mexican illegals were allowed to vote, they would 'own' as in run the State of Texas. They are getting there through their 'owning' of Texas politicians - in Washington and Austin. They are also getting there through using our own political system and getting their own elected.

    That is why it is so important to send the 'dreamers' home - to send all of them home.

    Isn't it strange we can bomb some country that holds no threat to us - yet we can't seem to talk straight to the 'terrorists' from Mexico when all we need to do is tell them to leave - and see they do? These people are actually invaders in our country - infiltrating our most important political, educational, and legal positions - yet we can't seem to do anything about it? But hey, we bombed Syria - Right?

    We ignore that fact at our peril. Everyone hid their heads in the sand for the last 40 years repeating the 'just hardworking people looking for a better job' - 'they are just doing the work lazy Americans won't do'. Maybe just pretending to believe it. It was much easier than actually doing something.

    We've see the fallacy of that bit of self-delusion.
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