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    This Is their NEW strategy The government's lawyers say immigration violations are a civil matter, not a crime. It Is not a crime to be here Illegally now Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    illegals

    We have to vote Obama out in 2012. Obama works for illegal aliens. Obama does not work for US citizens. Let's vote Obama out in 2012. It is time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topsecret10
    This Is their NEW strategy The government's lawyers say immigration violations are a civil matter, not a crime. It Is not a crime to be here Illegally now Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    As someone who is in a position to know about this, just being in the country illegally is a civil offense, however the act of entering the country without inspection is a misdemeanor crime. In addition using a fraudulent social security number to gain employment or benefits is a crime. Using counterfeit immigration identification documents is also a crime, not to mention working off the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICEstorm
    Quote Originally Posted by topsecret10
    This Is their NEW strategy The government's lawyers say immigration violations are a civil matter, not a crime. It Is not a crime to be here Illegally now Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    As someone who is in a position to know about this, just being in the country illegally is a civil offense, however the act of entering the country without inspection is a misdemeanor crime. In addition using a fraudulent social security number to gain employment or benefits is a crime. Using counterfeit immigration identification documents is also a crime, not to mention working off the books.
    8 U.S.C. § 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien

    Search 8 U.S.C. § 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien
    (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
    misrepresentation and concealment of facts
    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
    at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
    officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
    officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
    States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
    willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
    commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
    imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
    commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
    imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

    (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
    Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
    enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
    designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
    penalty of -
    (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
    attempted entry); or
    (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
    an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
    this subsection.
    Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
    in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
    imposed.

    (c) Marriage fraud
    Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
    purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
    imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
    $250,000, or both.
    (d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
    Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
    for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
    shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
    with title 18, or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevetheroofer
    I hope this gets real ugly for Obama!
    SAME HERE STEVE. I'M SICK OF BEARING WITNESS TO HOW OBAMA IS RUINING THIS ONCE GREAT NATION, BY CODDLING ILLEGAL ALIENS. DOES A VOTE FROM A HISPANIC MEAN THAT MUCH TO THIS MAN THAT HE IS WILLING TO CAUSE HARM TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY, IN ORDER TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE HAPPY THESE PEOPLE DON'T PAY HIS SALARY AND, THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN GET A JOB ANYMORE IN THIS COUNTRY. THOSE WHO HE HAS CAST ASIDE, ARE THE ONES GIVING HIM A PAYCHECK. I'LL TELL YOU, THE MORE HE DOES IN FAVOR OF THESE PEASANTS FROM MESSYCO, THE MORE I HATE HIM FOR WHAT HE IS DOING TO THIS COUNTRY

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    The plaintiffs - civil rights and public health organizations, unions, illegal immigrants and others - argued in Thursday's 20-page request that they face "irreparable injury" if the law remains in place.

    That includes the threat of arrest, harm to their organizations, difficulty reaching even basic agreements with businesses and housing providers, and the potential loss of basic municipal services such as water.
    Those who break our laws should face the "threat" of arrest! That's the rational behind the law! Those "organizations" that aid and abet criminals should face "harm." Illegal invaders have no inherent right to enter into any business agreements in this country.

    These so called arguments are so weak that only the 9th Circuit would consider them. Thank God the 11th Circuit is a little more rational.....

    [quote:s6d7v4vh]A group of 36 plaintiffs, led by the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama, or HICA, wants U.S. District Judge Sharon Lovelace Blackburn to delay the effective date of five sections of the law that she refused to block Wednesday.
    You know when Alabama has a "hispanic interest coalition," the invasion is in full force in Alabama! When are Americans going to come to their right mind and recognize that so called “hispanic interest coalitions are nothing more than ethnocentric organizations; intent on furthering their racial agenda, to the absolute and complete the detriment of this country![/quote:s6d7v4vh]THAT FLAG IN THE HAND OF THE UNGRATEFUL PERSON IN THAT AVATAR, IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THESE ILLEGALS WANT CITIZENSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY COME HERE AND, MAKE ALL KINDS OF DEMANDS OF THIS COUNTRY AND, YET THEY FLY THEIR HOME FLAG PROUDLY. THIS IS A SLAP IN THE FACE, TO EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY IT SAYS LOUD AND CLEAR, THEY ONLY WANT WHAT IS GIVEN TO THEM AND NOTHING MORE. THEY WANT ONLY THE BENEFITS THAT WERE NOT MEANT FOR THEM, ALONG WITH THE JOBS THAT THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO. THEY ARE HOLDING DOWN A JOB, AND GETTING FOOD STAMPS, MEDICAID, WIC AND OTHER FREEBIES THAT AMERICANS ARE SOMETIME DENIED. PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY HAD BETTER WAKE UP AND, WAKE UP NOW. THEY ARE TAKING OVER WHILE THE REST OF AMERICANS LOOK THE OTHER WAY.

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    Of course Obama sent his yes man Holder of the Justice Department to stop the answer to his poor immigration enforcement policies. That's what Communist do, they attack you with the courts and then purge you. U.S. District Judge Sharon Blackburn was appointed by President George H.W. Bush so Obama can't allow a Republican or Conservative decision go unchallenged.

    Bad President.

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    Of course Obama sent his yes man Holder of the Justice Department to stop the answer to his poor immigration enforcement policies. That's what Communist do, they attack you with the courts and then purge you. U.S. District Judge Sharon Blackburn was appointed by President George H.W. Bush so Obama can't allow a Republican or Conservative decision go unchallenged.

    Bad President.

    Dixie
    The DOJ under Holder has operated in way that is inconsistant with our laws. He should be impeached and removed by Congress. I also think that if he is found to be complicit in Fast and Furious, that he shoud go to jail and the rats nest called the DOJ be cleaned out of all of the political appointees that work to maniplulate our justice system for their globalist agenda. they have hired 113 and they all have ties to Socialist based organizations or Organizarions that promote racism. ie, Cass de Maryland, La Raza, NAACP..
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