Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Senior Member Brian503a's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    California or ground zero of the invasion
    Posts
    16,029

    Obrador rejects Mexico election defeat

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk

    Obrador rejects Mexico election defeat
    By James Hider in Mexico City

    (Filed: 10/09/2006)


    Mexico faces a plunge into political chaos after a senior aide to Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said that the Left-wing former mayor of Mexico City will set up a "resistance government" and declare himself president, despite being declared the loser of July's election.


    Mr Lopez Obrador's campaign refuses to acknowledge defeat, and has set up sprawling protest camps in Mexico City's main square
    "Even though the official institutions, like a spent force, have recognised the Right-wing candidate, we are not going to," Gerardo Fernandez Norona, a senior strategist in Mr Lopez Obrador's campaign, told The Sunday Telegraph. "There have been other moments of crisis in this country when you could indeed have two presidents at the same time."

    In fact, the last time a candidate refused to admit defeat was in 1913, in the middle of the Mexican revolution – and it led to civil war.

    An electoral court last week declared Felipe Calderon, Mr Lopez Obrador's conservative rival, the winner in the elections by a little more than 200,000 votes, out of 42 million cast. The court rebuffed the Left-winger's protests that he was a victim of electoral fraud. Mr Lopez Obrador's campaign refuses to acknowledge defeat, and has set up sprawling protest camps in the capital's main square, known as the Zocalo, and along a central street.

    Thousands of protesters from across the country live, eat and sleep in a small city of tents, well-provisioned and fed from communal field kitchens on the Zocalo, surrounded by posters denouncing Mr Calderon and Vicente Fox, the outgoing president, as "traitors".

    "We aren't talking about a parallel government, we are talking about a legitimate government," said Mr Norona. "We are talking about assuming the responsibilities of the presidency and the government in a legitimate fashion with the backing of the people."

    Mr Lopez Obrador's party, the Democratic Revolutionary Party, is to hold a huge convention on Saturday, Mexico's Independence Day, at which it hopes to gather one million people to discuss how exactly the rival government will operate, and how to force Mr Calderon to relinquish power.

    Protesters on the Zocalo this week talked of a huge programme of civil disobedience, strikes and blockades.

    "We will continue with civil disobedience," said one housewife on the Zocalo. "We will stop paying taxes, we will stop doing a great many things … and maybe it will stop being peaceful."

    In the meantime, Mr Norona said the 52-year-old party leader, who espoused large scale spending on infrastructure projects, social reforms and subsidies for the poor, would set up his own presidential office from where he would run a "government in resistance to fight the usurper".

    "There will be a duality," he said. "He will be helping the citizenry and doing many things to fight the usurpation."

    The tensions have put a huge strain on Mexico's fledgling democracy, which only emerged in 2000 from seven decades of one-party rule by the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, which often rigged ballots to ensure its tenure in power. After the accusations of fraud, opinion polls show that almost a third of Mexico's population of 106 million believe that Mr Calderon is not the legitimate president, which will undermine his authority, already shaky after garnering the narrowest electoral win in Mexico's history.

    Mr Calderon, a bland, Harvard-educated technocrat who held the post of energy minister in Mr Fox's administration, has said he is open to dialogue with the charismatic Left-winger – who dismisses the ruling Right-wing National Action Party as "fascists" – but Mr Norona insisted that there would be no talks.

    "We will never have dialogue or make an agreement, nothing," he said. "They want to steal the presidency from us, we are never going to tolerate it. We will not betray millions of voters, people who trust us. So I can tell you the crisis here is going to sharpen."

    Both men find themselves in increasingly difficult positions: Mr Lopez Obrador's own party, which runs Mexico City's council, has called for his supporters to leave their protest camps, which are blocking some of the capital's main business districts and have cost the city millions in lost revenue.

    Mr Calderon, on the other hand, is faced with potentially millions of determined dissenters, and may have to temper his own free-market agenda with some of his rival's structural economic reforms.

    But that would set him at odds with the PRI, with whom he will probably have to seek an alliance in Congress.

    Human rights groups fear that the government may use force to clear the protesters from their camps, leading to an explosion of violence.

    The United States will be nervously watching developments south of its border, fearful that Mr Lopez Obrador's campaign to bring down the government will hurt Mexico's economy, and drastically increase the flow of illegal migrants heading north.

    "If the situation gets worse, immigration could become an exodus," said Denise Dresser, a Mexican political scientist.
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  2. #2
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    55,883

    Re: Obrador rejects Mexico election defeat

    In fact, the last time a candidate refused to admit defeat was in 1913, in the middle of the Mexican revolution – and it led to civil war.
    Thousands of protesters from across the country live, eat and sleep in a small city of tents, well-provisioned and fed from communal field kitchens on the Zocalo, surrounded by posters denouncing Mr Calderon and Vicente Fox, the outgoing president, as "traitors".
    Well, about time, Mexico!!

    Stand up for your rights, your independence and sovereignty.

    GO MEXICO!!!

    Over the weekend, Canadians said the same thing about their government and the NAU...."treason" is what the Canadians call it.

    GO CANADA!!!!

    Sooo....in the nation of the "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" what do We, the People of the United States call it?

    Well, this American calls it:

    HIGH TREASON!!!

    And that my friends IS an impeachable act.



    And I'm a 4th Generation Republican that voted for this pair of Traitors "occupying" the American White House....TWICE.

    We have to get them OUT OUT OUT OUT.....NOW.
    A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
    Save America, Deport Congress! - Judy

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  3. #3
    Senior Member curiouspat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Seattle, WA. area!
    Posts
    3,341
    Human rights groups fear that the government may use force to clear the protesters from their camps, leading to an explosion of violence.

    The United States will be nervously watching developments south of its border, fearful that Mr Lopez Obrador's campaign to bring down the government will hurt Mexico's economy, and drastically increase the flow of illegal migrants heading north.
    I am very concerned that if violence breaks out in Mexico, that many will come here, claiming political asylum.
    TIME'S UP!
    **********
    Why should <u>only</u> AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, have to obey the law?!

  4. #4
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    55,883
    Don't worry about that. We will not give political asylum for this type of civil war.
    A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
    Save America, Deport Congress! - Judy

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •