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06-10-2007, 08:42 PM #1
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Snow: Bush not giving up on immigration
Snow: Bush not giving up on immigration
6/10/2007, 1:39 p.m. ET
By HOPE YEN
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush is not giving up on his plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants and will seek to convince skeptical GOP senators that it secures the nation's borders, administration officials said Sunday.
But the Senate's No. 2 Democratic leader said he was uncertain about the prospects for a deal. Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois cited opposition from a group of Senate conservatives who contend the legislation guarantees amnesty to illegal immigrants.
"We need a breakthrough on the Republican side," Durbin said.
Tony Snow, White House spokesman, and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez both predicted an immigration bill would pass once Bush meets with lawmakers this week and Congress reconsidered the measure.
Snow said Bush planned to listen to senators' concerns when he meets with GOP senators for a scheduled lunch Tuesday. Bush has been placing phone calls to Republican senators from Air Force One during a European trip.
"I think one of the things you do in this is you listen," said Snow, when asked what Bush planned to say. "And I think one of the concerns a lot of people have, at least around the country, is they say, 'Look, how can we trust you guys to enforce this? You had a border that's been open for 21 years. How can we trust you?'"
"If you take a look at the bill, it is the largest investment ever in border security," he said.
Last week, Senate backers of the immigration bill fell 15 votes short of the 60 needed to limit debate and allow a vote on the measure. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., then set the measure aside, calling it "the president's bill" and saying Bush's direct intervention was crucial to reviving it.
The legislation would tighten borders and offer employers more temporary workers from abroad in addition to providing lawful status to an estimated 12 million illegal aliens and putting many of them on a path toward citizenship.
Noting that the measure calls for investing in border security and would hit employers with harsher punishments for hiring illegal immigrants, Snow said the Senate could "wrap this up in two days" if Reid allowed additional debate on it.
Several Senate conservatives have said they were not allowed to offer enough changes to the bill, such as making it easier to detect and deport immigrants who have overstayed their visas or committed other violations.
"Our sense is if Majority Leader Harry Reid brings it back up, which he should, and permits a full debate, ... we're not only going to get a bill, but we're going to get a better bill, and it's going to be one that answers the express objections of a lot of people and, I think, provides a way of answering skeptics on issues like security," Snow said.
Gutierrez agreed. "I believe the votes were there, and I think some senators felt they needed more time and some amendments that did not get their due hearing," he said. "I have no doubt. This is going to go through because it's the right bill."
But Durbin said the Senate already had two weeks of debate on the issue. Reid finally sought to cut off discussion when it became clear that several Republican senators who opposed the proposal offered "amendment after amendment after amendment, to the point where this was bogging down," Durbin said.
"It reached a point, a real impasse," he said. "So it will take some leadership on the Republican side to agree on the number of amendments, to agree that we're not going to waste more time and procedural slowdowns, and really get to the heart of the issue."
Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., said a compromise was possible but would take "hard work." Additional changes to the measure could improve chances for passage yet could doom it, too, he said.
"Every time you try and enforce the borders more, you offend people on the left. Whenever you try and regularize the status of people, you offend folk who want to enforce the border," Bayh said. "So, yes, there's a possibility. But I don't think we should be naive about it."
Gutierrez said it would be a "big mistake" if senators were to abandon the bill after coming so close to passage.
"I think the big picture is we have a bill here that will strengthen national security, that will improve our economy, that will make us a stronger society and if somebody has a problem with some of the tactics and the clerical issues and the details, let's debate them," he said. "But we should not walk away and keep the status quo."
Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl, a Republican supporter of the immigration bill, said he believes skeptical conservatives can be persuaded to support the measure.
"All we have to do on the Republican side is sit down with those who have amendments, get those amendments in a reasonable package, not too many, but enough so all of the members can say they had their chance," he said.
Snow and Durbin appeared on "Fox News Sunday," while Gutierrez, Bayh and Kyl were on "Late Edition" on CNN.
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06-10-2007, 09:00 PM #2
You know I just don't understand it. Several senators proposed good amendments that would have improved this bill (though I still wouldn't have agreed with it) but they were voted down.
Now we have Snow here saying that if more Republican amendments are considered the bill will pass. So what he's saying is regardless if these possibly good amendments pass or not, the senators who don't like this bill and proposed good amendments that will fail, will say "well, my amendments didn't pass and boy this bill still sucks but I'll vote for it because they let me propose an amendment!!
I certainly hope we don't have senators THIS stupid. Isn't it the quality of the bill that elicits their vote?, not the fact that they were allowed to propose amendments, whether they pass or not????? snow is as big a dope as bush is.<div>Thank you Governor Brewer!</div>
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06-10-2007, 10:34 PM #3Tony Snow, White House spokesman, and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez both predicted an immigration bill would pass once Bush meets with lawmakers this week and Congress reconsidered the measure.
Gee, that sounds like a real new democratic concept to me. Is it called, "Things would be a lot easier if this were a dictatorship" Democracy?
Well, excuse me for posting my thoughts, President Bush, but I think you're over-stepping your boundaries in a free country!!
And another thing, would somebody tell this Gutierrez guy to shut up.
He does not even hold an elected office, and he should butt out of this.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-10-2007, 10:44 PM #4"If you take a look at the bill, it is the largest investment ever in border security," he said.Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".
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06-10-2007, 11:59 PM #5AprilGuestTony Snow, White House spokesman, and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez both predicted an immigration bill would pass once Bush meets with lawmakers this week and Congress reconsidered the measure.
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06-11-2007, 01:07 AM #6
The citizens are waking up and coming out of the shadows!!!
Here's the link to the new fax for the campaign monday...complements of KATE. Let give them a lesson in American patriotism!!
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06-11-2007, 01:21 AM #7
Snow,
If you and your boss are stupid enough to try and revive this bill, then bring it on idiots.
We can take Bush down to the 19% approval range with Senator Harry Reid.
We can go there.
Are you ready to go there?
By all means, please help us to show what a sellout and dictator King George Bush is. Bring back the dead bill and see what kind of reaction you get from America.
Make our day punks.
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06-11-2007, 02:15 AM #8
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how low did Nixon's rating go before he left office?
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