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    OUR VIEW: Wimmer's malicious bill



    OUR VIEW: Wimmer's malicious bill
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    Although we supported the unsuccessful DREAM Act immigration measure, which would have allowed some illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children a chance of citizenship if they went to school or entered the military, we understand the opposition behind it. Many Americans are tired of the federal government's procrastination on dealing with illegal immigration and the dysfunctions that come with it. They want a secure U.S. border before other immigration initiatives are tackled.

    However, a promise by ultra-righty Utah Rep. Carl Wimmer, R-Herriman, to push a measure next year that would deny illegal immigrant students who live in Utah in-state tuition is just plain malicious. The vast majority of illegals who will seek higher education in Utah have already lived here as children. They did not have a say in where their home was chosen.

    They are, for all intents and purposes, Utahns. Graduating from high school and wanting to go to college is an achievement by these kids. They should be encouraged to further their education.

    There's no special privileges for these students. They pay the regular in-state semester tuition as others who live in Utah -- 12 units at the University of Utah costs $2,645, for example. If Wimmer shuts the door on this tuition rate for illegals, the cost will rise to $8,313. That will likely price many young Utahns of Hispanic descent out of a chance for higher education.

    Wimmer says that Utah's in-state tuition rate for illegals should be ended because the DREAM Act failed in Congress. That's very cynical reasoning from the legislator. He's discussing apples and oranges. Illegal immigrant children already have a legal right to be educated through 12th grade. It's despicable to pass a law that will make it too expensive for a bright student with high grades to go to college simply because she was brought to Utah by her parents or guardians as a child.

    Wimmer's confident his bill will pass. We're not so sure. The Legislature has rejected these efforts in the past, and we don't believe Gov. Gary Herbert would ever sign such a despicable bill.

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    I believe Americans are a charitable people who demand the right to choose which charities they give to. I'm sick of A$$hats forcing donations to their favored charities with taxpayer dollars.
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    There's no special privileges for these students. They pay the regular in-state semester tuition as others who live in Utah -- 12 units at the University of Utah costs $2,645, for example. If Wimmer shuts the door on this tuition rate for illegals, the cost will rise to $8,313. That will likely price many young Utahns of Hispanic descent out of a chance for higher education.
    So where's an illegal invader ( who's not legally allowed to work in this country) getting that kind of money to pay for any type of tuition, in-state or otherwise?

    Who cares if illegal invaders of hispanic descent are priced out of a chance for higher education! They shouldn't even be allowed to attend our schools, much less receive in-state tuition!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    There's no special privileges for these students. They pay the regular in-state semester tuition as others who live in Utah -- 12 units at the University of Utah costs $2,645, for example. If Wimmer shuts the door on this tuition rate for illegals, the cost will rise to $8,313. That will likely price many young Utahns of Hispanic descent out of a chance for higher education.
    So where's an illegal invader ( who's not legally allowed to work in this country) getting that kind of money to pay for any type of tuition, in-state or otherwise?

    Who cares if illegal invaders of hispanic descent are priced out of a chance for higher education! They shouldn't even be allowed to attend our schools, much less receive in-state tuition!
    They get the tuition money from special scholarships that pander to ethnic groups, from churches and private organizations (most of them support LaRaza).

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    There's no special privileges for these students. They pay the regular in-state semester tuition as others who live in Utah -- 12 units at the University of Utah costs $2,645, for example. If Wimmer shuts the door on this tuition rate for illegals, the cost will rise to $8,313. That will likely price many young Utahns of Hispanic descent out of a chance for higher education.
    But they do get a special privilege. They get $5,700 worth of taxpayer subsidy not available to American citizens students living in 49 states (56 other states, according to Obama). Americans in states bordering Utah have the privilege of paying $8,313 while students from Mexico, which certainly doesn't border Utah get a substantial discount.
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    Grauduating from High School is more than most children in other countries can obtain.

    Instead of thanking us for their HS Diploma they always want more more more more more more

    When they graduate HS they are adults so go home to your countries if you really want a College Degree.We OWE YOU NOTHING.
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    It's interesting that some "Utahns" who spend less on education per student than almost any other state in the country are worried about illegal invaders not going to college. What about all the legal citizens of Utah? Aren't they "Utahns"? Shouldn't they come first and take all the seats available in Utah's colleges and universities?

    Maybe more Utahns should give that some thought in the New Year.
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    Here we go again,,, worrying about rewarding an invading force of criminals and their children than we are about our own. The only right any of these people have is to go home to Mexico as fast as we can send them there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    It's interesting that some "Utahns" who spend less on education per student than almost any other state in the country are worried about illegal invaders not going to college.
    In another thread, someone posted that church leaders are calling for "compassion". I guess someone forgot to tell them that charity begins at home. Or - and more likely - the richest members are no different from any other owners: get the poor to pay for their docile labor and feel bad if they don't finance the people who are undercutting them for jobs.
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