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    A perfect storm at the border

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    3/28/05

    A perfect storm at the border
    By Ricardo Sandoval

    In the summer of 2004, from adjacent cells deep inside a maximum-security prison, two rival drug kingpins buried the hatchet and forged a partnership that lit a deadly fuse.

    The resulting explosion of violence along the U.S.-Mexican border has been stunning, even measured by the grisly standards of drug wars past. In towns like Matamoros and Nuevo Laredo, authorities can barely keep up with the body count. The carnage has given rise to a new worry as well: that a lawless border region might become a springboard for terrorist attacks on Americans.

    The chaos will be an uninvited guest in Texas this week when President George W. Bush meets with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Prime Minister Paul Martin of Canada. A friendly discussion of the North American Free Trade Agreement was supposed to top the agenda. But violence and terrorism keep intruding on Bush's relationship with Fox. The former Texas governor entered office boasting of their friendship and talking of a more open border--but the events of 9/11 changed all that. More recently, Bush has renewed his calls for a guest worker program for Mexican immigrants. But that's going to be a tough sell in Congress and across America if the killing at the border doesn't stop--or at least slow down a bit.

    Earlier this month, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice lauded Mexico's efforts against illegal drugs and its cooperation in the war on terrorism as a "remarkable story," but that has not quieted fears that terrorists might take advantage. "Several al Qaeda leaders believe operatives can pay their way into the country through Mexico and also believe illegal entry is more advantageous than legal entry for operational security reasons," said Adm. James M. Loy, then U.S. deputy secretary for homeland security, in congressional testimony last month.

    Setbacks. Heightened fears of terrorism are the latest in a string of setbacks for Fox, who until recently enjoyed worldwide praise for standing up to the drug traffickers. Fox jailed several capos and dozens of lieutenants and had even made gains in reversing the seemingly systemic corruption that had long bedeviled federal police.

    But the jailhouse meetings of drug lords Benjamin Arellano Felix and Osiel Cardenas set off a series of bloody attacks that have sullied Fox's record. Arellano Felix and Cardenas plotted their alliance while supposedly in the deep freeze of Mexico's premier lockup, La Palma, high in the mountains west of Mexico City. They zeroed in on their common enemies--traffickers Vicente Carrillo Fuentes, Ismael Zambada, and Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, who make up the leadership of the Juarez cartel. While Arellano Felix and Cardenas stewed in jail, the Juarez organization had become Mexico's most powerful drug gang.

    After the jailhouse meeting, brothers of Carrillo Fuentes and Guzman were gunned down. One of the assaults was a hit in the same La Palma prison. That incident, and rumors the drug lords were plotting to break out of the prison, led Fox to take drastic action. In mid-January, he deployed hundreds of Army troops to take back control of La Palma from the drug lords. Then, after six employees of a federal prison in Matamoros were slain later that month, Fox deployed more soldiers and federal police officers along a 200-mile stretch of the border. In February, a member of Fox's travel staff was arrested for allegedly passing information to a drug organization.

    A recent State Department report says that drug trafficking and related crimes "pose serious direct threats" to Mexico's national security. Perhaps the most frightening aspect of the new violence is the specter of the Zetas, an elite corps of former Mexican Army commandos who have switched sides and sold their services to drug trafficker Cardenas. The Zetas are now believed to have taken dozens of lives--both Mexican and American. The Dallas Morning News recently reported that the Zetas were suspected of orchestrating at least three recent murders in Dallas. In January, Zeta activity led the U.S. State Department to issue a travel warning about the "deteriorating security situation" on the Mexican side of the border. Even college students on spring break were warned about partying too hard in Matamoros, home turf of Cardenas's Gulf cartel.

    "Exercise some caution," said Antonio Garza, U.S. ambassador to Mexico. "If you haven't been to the border in years, this isn't the same border." In light of recent events, that seemed a bit of an understatement.
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    "The resulting explosion of violence along the U.S.-Mexican border has been stunning, even measured by the grisly standards of drug wars past. In towns like Matamoros and Nuevo Laredo, authorities can barely keep up with the body count. The carnage has given rise to a new worry as well: that a lawless border region might become a springboard for terrorist attacks on Americans."

    And we are supposed to believe what Fox has to say?
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    And when you pause and think about the Minute men along that very border, you might just worry. But yes.. I would be astonished if it had not happened for no other reason than that there is a lot of money in that business. Much to the shame of our country.. a whole lot of money, and those people don't give a single damn in hell about anyone. The very best of the Mafia I would bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaw
    And when you pause and think about the Minute men along that very border, you might just worry. But yes.. I would be astonished if it had not happened for no other reason than that there is a lot of money in that business. Much to the shame of our country.. a whole lot of money, and those people don't give a single damn in hell about anyone. The very best of the Mafia I would bet.
    The very best of the mafia run most of the border. There is a very bad situation down there, but lots of money to be made by people who care nothing about ANYTHING other than their own enrichment.

    Makes me shiver to think about it. I still have a hard time realizing that there are people in this world, who care nothing about others, but only about their own greed, and fufilling whatever they think they gain by satisfying this greed. All through the 90's, I just did not get it. I guess I am too insulated, here in NE and in my own personal values, to see a society riddled with such cancer. I have always known that there were pockets of this type of cancer, but not at such a truely systemic (sp) level. All I can say, is I hope we can turn the tide over this, BEFORE all is totally lost.

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    A recent State Department report says that drug trafficking and related crimes "pose serious direct threats" to Mexico's national security.
    Now here's an idea .... we deport them, close the border with a Great Wall of America and let them fight it out amongst themselves!

    Who gives a rat's ear about Mexico's national security? At least I don't ... the corruption and lawlessness that is insidious to their country and society has made them what they are today!

    Let them swim in the sewer of their own making .. not in our pool!

    OK ... ALL ILLEGALS OUT OF THE POOL!
    "This country has lost control of its borders. And no country can sustain that kind of position." .... Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchman
    A recent State Department report says that drug trafficking and related crimes "pose serious direct threats" to Mexico's national security.
    Now here's an idea .... we deport them, close the border with a Great Wall of America and let them fight it out amongst themselves!

    Who gives a rat's ear about Mexico's national security? At least I don't ... the corruption and lawlessness that is insidious to their country and society has made them what they are today!

    Let them swin in the sewer of their own making .. not in our pool!
    I hope your not from CA (as I know a lot of people are, and my comment will probably piss them off, but oh well), because that is my oppion of CA.

    They have continued to call for and vote for exactly what they have. Yes, the illegals HAVE come in and trashed the system, but that is what you get for liberalism to the extreme (even if it is only liberal in a few small sections of the state). With the utter failure is the socialistic state of CA, AND when CA comes a knockin and wants MY tax dollars to bail them out, I say let'm swim a little in their own stink for a while first. Let'm get PO'd enough about what the zelous socialism has done, so that CA will actually be forced to change BACK into the golden state that it should be (and was until 30 years ago)

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    OK ... ALL ILLEGALS OUT OF THE POOL!
    Totally agree there. However, the sad thing, is there IS a country down there with a HELL of a lot of natural resources. Easily enough to support a 1st world country. It is that crappy socialistic utopia (remember my rant about CA) which has caused MX to die under the weight of it's own vomit. We should owe NO allegence to fix ANY of their problems. Let'm fester. (sorry, I am getting tired)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker
    We should owe NO allegence to fix ANY of their problems. Let'm fester. (sorry, I am getting tired)
    Agreed!

    No, not from CA .. home of fruits, nuts and flakes.
    "This country has lost control of its borders. And no country can sustain that kind of position." .... Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchman
    Quote Originally Posted by Husker
    We should owe NO allegence to fix ANY of their problems. Let'm fester. (sorry, I am getting tired)
    Agreed!

    No, not from CA .. home of fruits, nuts and flakes.
    CA is a VERY beautiful state. However, it has gone to hell, and they are certainly reaping what has been sown. A terrible thing too, since most of the state is very friendly, very trustworthy conservative (at least it was 20 years ago). It is just a few pockets of filth and decadence (sp) and those have festered to the point where they have ALL of the power in the state.

    Too bad, but again, they made their bed, so they can sleep in it.

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