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    Rep. Gutierrez: House will take up DREAM Act legis next week

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    Rep. Gutierrez: House will take up DREAM Act legislation next week
    By Mike Lillis - 12/02/10 10:15 PM ET

    Legislation carving a path to legal residency for thousands of illegal immigrant students will hit the House floor next week, according to a leading Democratic supporter.

    Democrats had hoped to move the DREAM Act through the Rules Committee as early as Thursday, setting up a Friday floor vote. But, with no votes scheduled for Friday, leaders simply "ran out of time," pushing consideration of the bill to next week, according to Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.).

    "We are still on track to pass the DREAM Act in the House, but we ran out of time to have a vote this week, so it looks like we will have it next week," Gutierrez said in a statement. "We have to follow certain rules in the House and do things in a certain order to call bills to the floor and we ran out of time for the DREAM Act this week."

    A House aide familiar with the debate floated another reason for the delay: A handful of "CBO hangups" led Democrats to scrap their plan to consider the bill this week, the aide said, referring to the Congressional Budget Office.

    On Thursday, CBO estimated the bill would reduce the deficit by $1.4 billion over the next decade. The figure reflects a $1.4 billion increase in on-budget deficits, and a $2.8 billion decrease in off-budget deficits, CBO noted. Only on-budget figures are considered under pay-as-you-go budget rules adopted by the House.

    Earlier in the day, Gutierrez indicated the bill has enough support to pass through the lower chamber.

    "I'm encouraged," he told The Hill, "because the obstacles appear procedural in nature — it's not the votes."

    Still, a number of Blue Dog Democrats are vowing to oppose the measure, leaving supporters of the bill anxious about its chances of passing even the House.

    Some lawmakers, like outgoing Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), said they simply don't agree with the policy. Others, like outgoing-Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-Tenn.), said they support the concept, but want the the bill to pass first through the Senate, which already shot it down once in September.

    "If it's a clean bill, then I'll have an interest in it, but only if the Senate passes it first," Lincoln told The Hill. "If the House brings it up without the Senate passing it first, I'll vote against it."

    Other Blue Dogs, including outgoing Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.), declined to comment.

    On Wednesday, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said the DREAM Act remains a Democratic priority this year. "I think we would have the votes when we bring it to the floor," he told reporters.

    Sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.), the proposal would offer a chance at legal residency for illegal immigrants who arrived in the U.S. before age 16 and have since gotten high-school diplomas. Under the bill, residency would be granted to those who attend college for two years or enter the military.

    "These people haven't broken any laws, except to be brought here," Rep. Ciro Rodriguez (D-Texas), a supporter of the bill, said Thursday.

    The White House has pushed strongly for Congress to pass the bill in the lame duck. On Thursday, Homeland Security Janet Napolitano joined that chorus, arguing the changes would allow the agency to focus its deportation efforts on real criminals.

    "What makes sense is to allow these young people a way to adjust their immigration status that is firm but fair," Napolitano told reporters on a press call.

    Opponents of the measure say it will grant amnesty to people who broke the law in coming to the U.S.

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    Deport illegals

    Gutierrez: Forget your Dream Act. We do not want it.

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    Still, a number of Blue Dog Democrats are vowing to oppose the measure, leaving supporters of the bill anxious about its chances of passing even the House.
    Some lawmakers, like outgoing Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), said they simply don't agree with the policy. Others, like outgoing-Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-Tenn.), said they support the concept, but want the the bill to pass first through the Senate, which already shot it down once in September.
    "If it's a clean bill, then I'll have an interest in it, but only if the Senate passes it first," Lincoln told The Hill. "If the House brings it up without the Senate passing it first, I'll vote against it."
    Other Blue Dogs, including outgoing Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.), declined to comment.


    If we can get the Blue Dogs to hold together as a group it would sure help.

    The BD whip is Rep. Dan Boren, Blue Dog Coalition Whip
    http://boren.house.gov/emailsignup.shtml
    Washington, D.C. 216 Cannon House Office Building
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    (202) 225-2701
    (202) 225-3038 fax
    * Muskogee Office 431 W. Broadway
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    (91 687-2533
    (91 686-0128 fax
    * Claremore Office 309 W. 1st Street
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    (91 341-9336
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    * McAlester Office 118 East Carl Albert Parkway
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    (91 423-5951
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    * Durant Office 112 N. 12th Avenue
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    Rep. Heath Schuler, is the former Whip


    PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: Important Blue Dog Coalition Contact Info Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post Report post
    This is a good coalition to direct concerns to about the DREAM Act. They are reputed to be a fiscally responsible coalition of conservative Democrats. Rep. Boren is on record as opposing DREAM Act.

    members list (may not be current)
    http://www.house.gov/melancon/BlueDogs/ ... 0Page.html

    - Kristen Hawn, Communications Director
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    -Rep. Dan Boren, Blue Dog Coalition Whip
    http://boren.house.gov/emailsignup.shtml

    Washington, D.C. 216 Cannon House Office Building
    Washington, D.C. 20515
    (202) 225-2701
    (202) 225-3038 fax
    * Muskogee Office 431 W. Broadway
    Muskogee, OK 74401
    (91 687-2533
    (91 686-0128 fax
    * Claremore Office 309 W. 1st Street
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    (91 341-9336
    (91 342-4806 fax
    * McAlester Office 118 East Carl Albert Parkway
    McAlester, OK 74501
    (91 423-5951
    (91 423-1940 fax
    * Durant Office 112 N. 12th Avenue
    Durant, OK 74701
    (580) 931-0333
    (580) 920-0041 fa

    Rep. Heath Schuler, former BD whip, very influential
    http://shuler.house.gov/
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    Fax: (202) 226-6422

    Asheville Office
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    Fax: (82 252-8734

    Murphy Office
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    Phone: (82 835-4981

    Sylva Office
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    Phone: (82 586-1962 x223


    And don't forget
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    Was this statement before or after he through his temper tantrum?

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    I called all these reps' office's in an hour and 20mins. And you can too! Here's how!

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    "We have to follow certain rules in the House and do things in a certain order..........." Really, Mr. Guttereeeez? Pray tell, just why doesn't this approach seem necessary with illegal aliens....I mean there is the "golden door", the "front door" ....you know, the legal, acceptable and "orderly" way that every other foreigner seeking citizenship in this country does by "following certain rules".

    This guy is a piece of work. He ought to listen to himself. Better yet, any congressman on the fence ought to listen to him and actually HEAR what he is saying and realize the hypocrisy.

    I cannot wait for this lame duck session to be over and this nightmare of a Dream Act to be squashed.

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    here is the Deal

    OK, Grant all the "KIDS" 1-21 the right to apply for US Citizenship IF:
    1. No criminal record at all
    2. They are in school already and are maintaining a 3.0 GPA
    3. They are not taking ANY local, STATE or FEDERAL funding.
    4. They cannot apply for any LOCAL, STATE or FEDERAL funding until they become US Citizens.
    5. They cannot bring any relative or spouse with them! ZERO!
    6. They must reside in the USA for the entire lenght of the application process.
    7. They may enlist in the Military AFTER they obtain citizenship ONLY.
    8. They must learn ENGLISH and pass English 101.
    9. Any criminal offense during this time frame disqualifies them.
    10. The maximum of 250,000 immigrants from ALL countries for each of the next 10 years will not be increased.
    11. All new immigrants entering the country must provide complete medical records-checks, not be a financial burdon on society, have a sponsor who will grant A BOND against them for the amount of $10,000 per person including children.
    12. No children born to these KIDS will become US Citizens!
    13. All illigals found entering this country will work for a minimum of 3 months of hard labor building fences along the borders!
    14. These KIDS will pay for schooling as OUT of State Students and no special treatment will be granted to them.

    Any and all comments & Opinions and postings by me are considered of my own opinion, and not of any ORG that I belong to! PERIOD!

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    Re: here is the Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by dregerk
    OK, Grant all the "KIDS" 1-21 the right to apply for US Citizenship IF:
    1. No criminal record at all
    2. They are in school already and are maintaining a 3.0 GPA
    3. They are not taking ANY local, STATE or FEDERAL funding.
    4. They cannot apply for any LOCAL, STATE or FEDERAL funding until they become US Citizens.
    5. They cannot bring any relative or spouse with them! ZERO!
    6. They must reside in the USA for the entire lenght of the application process.
    7. They may enlist in the Military AFTER they obtain citizenship ONLY.
    8. They must learn ENGLISH and pass English 101.
    9. Any criminal offense during this time frame disqualifies them.
    10. The maximum of 250,000 immigrants from ALL countries for each of the next 10 years will not be increased.
    11. All new immigrants entering the country must provide complete medical records-checks, not be a financial burdon on society, have a sponsor who will grant A BOND against them for the amount of $10,000 per person including children.
    12. No children born to these KIDS will become US Citizens!
    13. All illigals found entering this country will work for a minimum of 3 months of hard labor building fences along the borders!
    14. These KIDS will pay for schooling as OUT of State Students and no special treatment will be granted to them.

    Not even if they met all of those requirements should they be allowed to become citizens.

    There are people whose parents didn't lie their way into our country still on the waiting list to come here legally. THEY are in line. These 'students' AND THEIR ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS need to go home AND GET IN LINE!

    Giving these students citizenship is like saying your folks held up banks all across the United States, and because you didn't do it yourself, you get to keep the money.

    If we are a nation of laws, let us follow those laws so we don't have a total breakdown of our society......which is about to happen if someone does not get a hold of this tsunami of people coming here illegally from Mexico
    Ron Paul in 2011 "[...]no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a 'green card' with an asterisk should be issued[...]a much better option than deportation."

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    Great job Stevetheroofer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Great job Stevetheroofer!
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