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    Ted Kennedy's Civil Rights Act of 2008

    Civil Rights Act of 2008" admits illegal aliens "undermine the living standards and working conditions of all Americans" (Kennedy, Clinton, Obama)

    From our "Isn't it Ironic" file comes the "Civil Rights Act of 2008", brainchild of Senator Ted Kennedy (S.2554: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.02554: ). Among no doubt many other things, it seeks to close a defense that employers can use when an illegal alien is fired and sues for back pay.

    In so doing, the bill admits that employers being able to hire illegal aliens "undermine[s] the living standards and working conditions of all Americans", a somewhat shocking admission considering that almost every leader of the Democratic Party constantly bends over backwards to support and enable illegal immigration. The bill also admits that being able to hire illegal aliens gives those employers an unfair advantage. However, as yet another example of the Dems' inabilities to understand the impacts of their policies, there's nothing in there about enforcing our immigration laws as a way of avoiding problems in the first place. Could their plan be used as a form of attrition? Yes, it might actually reduce illegal immigration by reducing the incentive and thus causing some to go home and others to decide not to come here. However, not so in practice, since with the other hand the Dems would be waving people across our borders.

    Nevertheless, a question based on this plan might be a good thing to ask one of the candidates. Since they support something that - absent amnesty - would have an attrition-like effect, why not support attrition through enforcement? And, of course, since they admit the downsides of illegal immigration, Obama and Clinton should be asked exactly how many instances of enforcement of our immigration laws they've supported.

    Co-sponsors include:
    Hillary Clinton
    Barack Obama (press release here)
    Dick Durbin
    Barbara Boxer
    Chuck Schumber
    Bob Menendez
    ...and several more.

    After a bit of a warm-up and a to-be-expected concern about racial profiling, here's the relevant bits:
    ...(5) ...In the wake of the Hoffman decision [Hoffman Plastic Compounds Inc. v. NLRB, 535 U.S. 137 (2002)], defendant employers will now argue that backpay awards to unlawfully discharged undocumented workers are barred under Federal employment statutes and even under State employment statutes.

    (6) Because the Hoffman decision prevents the imposition of sanctions on employers who discriminate against undocumented immigrant workers, employers are encouraged to employ such workers for low-paying and dangerous jobs because they have no legal redress for violations of the law. This creates an economic incentive for employers to hire and exploit undocumented workers, which in turn tends to undermine the living standards and working conditions of all Americans, citizens and noncitizens alike.

    (7) The Hoffman decision disadvantages many employers as well. Employers who are forced to compete with firms that hire and exploit undocumented immigrant workers are saddled with an economic disadvantage in the labor marketplace. The unintended creation of an economic inducement for employers to exploit undocumented immigrant workers gives those employers an unfair competitive advantage over employers that treat workers lawfully and fairly.
    http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007530.html
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    They are not "undocumented workers," they are illegal aliens who are likely engaging in identity theft, driving without insurance or licenses etc.

    The only acceptable, reasonable way to solve this crisis, is to enforce existing laws and cut off taxpayer-funded benefits for these people who shouldn't even be here -- and who show blatant disrespect for our laws. Then they will go home.
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    The fact that most of the illegal aliens once amnestied are going to become dependent Democratic supporters and then voters means that the legislators listed here will act in their behalf anyway.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    Please join in on the Indiana action alert everyone! We need another WIN!



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    Perhaps I'm missing something here, but doesn't it seem like this bill actually legitimizes illegal immigrants as employees? Shouldn't only lawful employees be able to sue their employer, especially if they misrepresented themselves when applying for the job?

    The list of cosponsors alone tells me this bill probably isn't good for America or American citizens!

    Co-sponsors include:
    Hillary Clinton
    Barack Obama (press release here)
    Dick Durbin
    Barbara Boxer
    Chuck Schumber
    Bob Menendez

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    Among no doubt many other things, it seeks to close a defense that employers can use when an illegal alien is fired and sues for back pay.
    We need a law to protect people who are breaking our laws?!?!

    Moron!
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    Yea, you don't even have to read bills anymore to determine if they will benefit American Citizens. Just look at the list of co-sponsors! If any of these names appear on the list, run for your life!

    Co-sponsors include:
    Hillary Clinton
    Barack Obama (press release here)
    Dick Durbin
    Barbara Boxer
    Chuck Schumber
    Bob Menendez
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