Thread: Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.

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ALIPAC NOTE: While we have not confirmed this entire story, we have confirmed that Igor Panarin is a legitimate source, is often quoted in articles around the world, and is the spokesman for the Russian space program. To our knowledge, Panarin is now the highest ranking governmental official in the world to claim the Amero plan is real.

http://www.alipac.us/article3765.html

The Post Chronicle
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/origi ... 8846.shtml

Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... c&refer=us

Novosti - Russian
http://de.rian.ru/analysis/20081125/118526248.html
Here is the English version:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20081124/118512713.html

Originally Posted by AE

My thoughts, this is a man who WANTS to see America crumble so Russia can again think they are superior. He has you-know-what envy when it comes to how low Russia has gone and where America has been and can be again.

Then the flip side is some of what he says has some merit, only because we have a load of dipheads in DC who think they can mess around with things without any checks and balances and then when things go wrong, tell us to trust them and they try to throw money at the problems, money that really does not even exist.

As for us breaking up into separate little "nations", that is an interesting thought. Does that mean out here in the west that we could have a new Homestead Act? That would be good and could make many more independent and self-sufficient, which makes a stronger nation, something America has lost.

America is crumbling. The majority of those who cast their vote for Obama have their hand out to receive what they deem as entitlements and socialist rule.
You get nothing for nothing. Our government handouts have now expanded to private institutions. Hard work, insightful planning and reward for success mean nothing to the banks, automakers and unions.
Why, in God's name, should top executives get bonuses and golden parachutes for driving a company into the dirt.

Originally Posted by AE

My thoughts, this is a man who WANTS to see America crumble so Russia can again think they are superior. He has you-know-what envy when it comes to how low Russia has gone and where America has been and can be again.

Then the flip side is some of what he says has some merit, only because we have a load of dipheads in DC who think they can mess around with things without any checks and balances and then when things go wrong, tell us to trust them and they try to throw money at the problems, money that really does not even exist.

As for us breaking up into separate little "nations", that is an interesting thought. Does that mean out here in the west that we could have a new Homestead Act? That would be good and could make many more independent and self-sufficient, which makes a stronger nation, something America has lost.

The good professor doesn't really understand how cranky Americans can get defending their own country. But being quoted in publications like Izvestia and Pravda means that he is toeing the good old Soviet Socialist line or he wouldn't be quoted, rather suffering a mysterious end. After all, Putin is old KGB and Medvedev is his puppet. In the name of democracy, they are eroding freedoms for their citizens daily, just like they did in the days of the USSR.

The only thing that makes Russia a superpower anymore is their nuclear weapons and their oil supplies. If not for that they would be only a regional threat in Europe. China is not going to be a world power because their economy is crashing along with the rest. For China to become a first world country it will require the resources of the entire world and that is not going to happen. 9,000 businesses have crashed in their coastal areas this year alone and a lot more are projected to go bankrupt in 2009. China also happens to be the country Russia needs to worry about the most because China refers to Siberia as their northern resource area.
America breaking up is becoming very possible. Look at the 1990's and the recent Bush era. Americans are getting further apart each year and the anger gets worse. The battle lines are being drawn and the future doesn't look to bright for the globalists because the economy is crashing. Our politicians advance their own agendas at the expense of the American people and someday soon the citizens are not going to take it anymore. California will probably be the first to break away because Mexico almost owns it, at least the southern part.

May i ask whom is going to break up the United States? Certainly no external power has the military might to even attempt a stratigic move against us, even China and Russia combined wouldn't stand a chance unless they want to be introduced to what a SSBN TridentClass Sub can do to a country in 15 minutes or less. Certainly not our own government since its almost a certainly the US Military would step in and stop it. I doubt very much you'll see any break up of the US. This is just Russian senseless dribble.

Originally Posted by Reciprocity

Certainly not our own government since its almost a certainly the US Military would step in and stop it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the US Military CONTROLLED BY the government and not the other way around?

Be that as it may, it wouldn't be done by any external force. It would come from within, be voluntary and sactioned by the people, because the people will not be the same as they are today. A great demographic shift, instigated and promoted by the OBL, will have taken place.

If the OBL are not stopped, it probably will come to pass. The USA is being destroyed from within. Not tomorrow, but probably within the next 30 - 40 years it will probably happen if current trends are not reversed.

Originally Posted by patbrunz

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the US Military CONTROLLED BY the government and not the other way around?

The military may be controlled by the government, but its ranks are filled with American citizens (like my nephew) who would join our side before they'd ever fire on us.

Be that as it may, it wouldn't be done by any external force. It would come from within, be voluntary and sactioned by the people, because the people will not be the same as they are today. A great demographic shift, instigated and promoted by the OBL, will have taken place.

If the OBL are not stopped, it probably will come to pass. The USA is being destroyed from within. Not tomorrow, but probably within the next 30 - 40 years it will probably happen if current trends are not reversed.

Bingo. I think there are similarities between ancient Rome and our current predicament: Tribes like the Visigoths and Vandals hastened the empire's demise, but they were just a symptom of the real problem, which was Rome's corrupt "Bread and Circus" government.

In addition to dealing with our own visigoths and vandals, government schools have been a grave threat to U.S. sovereignty over the last 40 years because they have been indoctrinating Americans to be ashamed of being American and to accept open borders globalism/socialism.

My prediction is that the U.S. will cease to exist as a sovereign nation before the end of this century.

I agree with Secure the borders analogy useing ancient Rome as an example, we are actually inducing self balkinization of our own country in favor of cheap labor which is exactly what rome did. At one point Rome had more slaves then actual citizens. They also conscriped Goth Merceneries into the Roman Army and in the end they turned on Rome, sound familiar? But still, the break up of the US would be very far in the future, lets make sure it dosen't happen

One day last week, Kitty Pilgrim, sitting in for Lou Dobbs, spoke of the SPP/NAU/Amero again for the first time in a long while.

Also, Canada appears to be still moving forward towards the NAU. You may want to review NOOPENBORDERS post on 11-1-08 at:

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-136787-tilma.html