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    He speaks with double-meaning when he's negotiating. He combined two groups, DACA Activists and Hispanics will LOVE REPUBLICANS, two different issues, two different groups, because of the "RESULTS". When he talks about "results", he's talking about his agenda on trade, taxes, health care, infrastructure, deregulation, energy, pipelines, drilling, Syria, Iraq, ISIS, Jerusalem Embassy, Gulf States, Veterans, jobs, wages, stock market, judicial appointments, religious liberty, military, climate change accord, UN, NATO ..... these are the results he was talking about in that tweet that American Hispanics, whether they support DACA or not, LOVE, same as the rest of US.

    I'm not defending the statement, any of his statements that sound pro-DACA, I'm just explaining what I believe is his strategy to speak to those with whom there is an issue at the same time as speaking to the whole country about all the issues. In other words, he doesn't want evangelicals or Hispanic business people to oppose him because he doesn't do a DACA deal, he wants them to support him because of all the other results he got for US that benefit them. I think he had in mind a specific person, the President of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, who is a DACA Activist, who was interviewed and bragged on Trump about the tax cuts, but then the interviewer turned immediately to like don't you hate Trump because he wants to deport the DACAs, and the Chamber guy said well we differ on the DACAs, but we agree on the tax cuts and all the results he getting on the economy, deregulation, and other matters of great concern and importance to our members.
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    I'm not defending the statement, any of his statements that sound pro-DACA
    Yes, actually you are. You frequently attempt to explain away anything he says that may be considered negative to our cause by telling us what he is thinking when he speaks. Of course in actuality, we know you have no way of knowing what's going on in his mind. Just telling you what it looks like from someone on the outside looking in.

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    We all want DACA to be unattainable, no matter the words being said, no matter the tools or tricks of negotiating, no matter the motives. The President knows from those with wisdom on immigration issues that harm us (ex.- Stephen Miller, Kris Kobach, Jeff Sessions, others) that any amnesty gives voters to democrats, transforms the nation. He may see it not workable in the end but he does cause uneasiness with the heart and love talk. He should be making more speeches about the damage from illegal immigration, talk about the billions of dollars that taxpayers have given and give, use Califonia as an example, and encourage illegal aliens to leave as families.
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    POTUS TRUMP: ‘We Hope to Work Out an Arrangement With Democrats on DACA’… WE DO??? (VIDEO at Link)

    January 6, 2018 by Cristina Laila

    President Trump gave a presser from Camp David Saturday and spoke about many different topics from immigration to the Russian collusion hoax.

    President Trump said, ‘we hope to work out an arrangement with the Democrats on DACA’.



    No, we don’t Mr. President. We want DACA abolished and the illegal aliens deported. This is why we voted for you.





    President Trump said during the election that ‘Americans have dreams too’ in response to Obama’s unconstitutional ‘DREAMer’ legislation. Americans are furious that illegal aliens get the red carpet rolled out while tax paying citizens are treated like slaves.
    We voted for Trump to end this insanity. Please, President Trump, END DACA once and for all.
    “…We went into budgets and we went into DACA…and we hope that we are going to work out an arrangement with the Democrats. I think it’s something that they’d like to see happen and it’s something I’d like to see happen,” Trump said.



    VIDEO: (at Link)


    Here’s then-candidate Trump during the presidential election saying he wants American children to have dreams too.
    “I want DREAMers to come from THIS Country..I want DREAMers to come from the United States..”
    VIDEO:


    In early September, President Trump announced an end to the Obama-era program that grants work permits to illegal immigrants who arrived in this country illegally with their lawbreaking parents or guardians.


    President of Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton followed Trump’s announcement with a statement saying the Obama administration bypassed security background checks for DACA recipients which of course puts Americans in danger.


    “We exposed for instance how President Obama’s administration bypassed security background checks in ‘lean and lite’ procedures to grant amnesty to these illegal aliens, contrary to their promises to the American public that there would be thorough vetting and so as a result we can be sure that there are many people who have this amnesty who don’t deserve it,” Fitton continued.


    Not only do these illegal aliens cost the American taxpayers billions of dollars, they are incredibly dangerous as well. Just like the Syrian ‘refugees’, we don’t know who they really are.


    Breitbart News reported on the murder and rape that DACA brings to our communities. Remember, the median age of a DACA recipient is 23 years old. The liars in the media continue to push the narrative that DACA recipients are helpless toddlers and babies.


    DACA Imports Crime

    DACA has kept a population of roughly 900,000 young adult illegals in the United States and also encouraged 400,000 Central American migrants into Americans’ neighborhoods and schools.

    Some of those young illegals and migrants have drifted into various criminal gangs, such as MS-13. Obama’s deputies even sent some known MS-13 members into the United States. The inflow of gang-bangers is causing a growing pile of dead teenagers and youths in New York, Texas, Virginia and several other states. MS-13 members are also facing rape charges. Other non-DACA young migrants add to the background level of crime. In June, for example, a young migrant from Central America was charged with killing an American girl on her way to a mosque in Virginia.

    Even if the rate of crime by the illegals is lower than similar-aged Americans, Obama’s inflow has killed a few handfuls of Americans and immigrants. Each of those additional dead Americans is dead, regardless of the relative crime rate.

    The federal government has yet to release data about the numbers of crimes by DACA-approved people.

    If these illegal alien DACA recipients become American citizens, be assured they will sue the hell out of the government until all of their family members receive citizenship as well. Just by talking about a DACA deal, illegal immigration has surged at the borders.


    END DACA



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    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    The video from today's press conference at Camp David is inserted now in the first post of this thread. DACA question and answer included.
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    There is no defense of the DACAs staying here. Their position is indefensible. Our worthless reps should not be concerned with the DACAs at all. They are not citizens so their wants and needs should not be considered at all. They are just trying to placate their donors and special interests. I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THIS ISSUE!!!!!!!

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    WH CoS Kelly says there was "a lot of discussion" on DACA at Camp David summit with GOP Congressional leaders. Says they want to give 700,000 DACA people the chance to stay in the US. Says they watched "The Greatest Showman" last night. Said people had "a couple glasses of wine."


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    Republicans must kill this in the US House of Representatives and take the monkey off the President. He's stacked the deck as high as he can with a 70 legislative item list 2 months ago and has since added at least 2 big items to it including 10 years of funding for the wall at a big number plus the cost of a Visa Exit Tracking System. Trump's not moved one item since October when talk of a "deal" was first thrown around in the media by Schumer and Pelosi late one night after a meeting with Trump, who the next morning denied the deal but said he would work with them, but he wanted a lot in return if he did. They asked for a list, he took about 10 days to put one together and sent it over. Yesterday or the day before Trump sent over the same list again with 2 big additions to it. Trump isn't going to budge. Will Republicans in Congress cave or will the Democrats cave? Will there be some compromise in the middle with getting some of what Trump wants but not all? And if Congress budges, will Trump sign it? I'm not sure he will, but that's the question now.

    So our message needs to focus on House Republicans to do everything they can to KILL DACA so no bill ever reaches the President's desk. Send him other bills, bills Republicans want. Healthcare bill, Permanent Individual Tax Cuts bill that includes repeal of Obamacare employer mandate and an Infrastructure bill.

    Now what else can we do to KILL DACA? Stop tithing and donating to the churches. They're behind this as well. I've listened to many pastors and church people on the Republican side clamoring for letting the kids stay. Catholics, Baptists, Methodists and others. You impact their collections and they will change their tune.
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    The Churches have turned into a big money making business.

    Stop giving them One Billion of our money to facilitate their Human Trafficking dumping these people in our communities.

    These Churches are NOT above the Law. They cannot harbor, aid and abet illegal aliens...ICE needs to go in, fine them and shut them down.

    These Pastor's and church people...are just people...no better than any other human being and they are NOT above the Law. No free pass to Churches...they already do not contribute tax to pay for all the programs and services we foot the bill for.
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