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    Second migrant caravan in Guatemala heads toward Mexico




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    Second migrant caravan in Guatemala heads toward Mexico

    A group of more than a thousand Central Americans in Guatemala…

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    October 23, 2018 / 1:11 PM / Updated 42 minutes ago

    Second migrant caravan in Guatemala heads toward Mexico


    Delphine Schrank, Sofia Menchu

    TAPACHULA, Mexico/GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - A group of more than a thousand Central Americans in Guatemala headed toward the Mexican border on Tuesday as the first caravan of migrants paused in southern Mexico on its planned journey toward the U.S. border.

    Central American migrants queue at a border connecting Guatemala and Mexico while waiting to cross into Mexico, in Talisman, Mexico October 23, 2018. REUTERS/Ueslei Marcelino

    U.S. President Donald Trump has vowed to begin cutting millions of dollars in aid to Central America and called the caravan in Mexico a national emergency as he seeks to boost his Republican Party’s chances in the Nov. 6 congressional elections.
    The caravan, which has been estimated at 7,000 to 10,000 mostly Honduran migrants fleeing violence and poverty in their homelands, is currently in the town of Huixtla in Chiapas state around 31 miles (50 km) north of the Guatemalan border.
    Mexico’s government said in a statement on Tuesday that it had received 1,699 requests for refugee status, including children. The government estimates there are around 4,500 people in the group.
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    Hundreds of migrants were resting in Huixtla on Tuesday, as religious groups and companies donated clothes. Local authorities provided vaccines, food and drink.
    “When we heard the caravan was coming (we joined)...people in Guatemala are also suffering from poverty. So this is an opportunity to improve my family’s life,” said Elsa Romero, a Guatemalan mother of four.
    Migrant Alexander Fernandez said the column planned to move again early on Wednesday morning.
    Separately, Casa del Migrante, a migrant shelter in Guatemala City, said more than 1,000 people who set out from Honduras were moving through Guatemala toward the Mexican border. Some local media said there were more than 2,000.
    Trump and fellow Republicans have sought to make the caravan and immigration issues in the election, which will determine whether their party keeps control of the U.S. Senate and U.S. House of Representatives.
    Honduran authorities say that at least two men have died so far on Mexican roads during the advance of the caravan. One of the men fell off a truck in Mexico, and the other died trying to get onto a truck in Guatemala, authorities said.
    The caravan in Mexico is still far from the United States border - more than 1,100 miles (1,800 km).
    Mexico, which has refused Trump’s demands that it pay for a border wall between the countries, tries to walk a fine line between showing solidarity with the Central American migrants and responding to Washington’s demands to control its borders.
    Mexico hopes to disperse the convoy long before it can reach the border, telling migrants to register with authorities in order to submit applications for asylum in Mexico.
    That process can last weeks, and migrants are supposed to stay where they register while applications are processed. If they violate those rules, they face deportation.

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    The US needs to suspend all asylum claims filed by anyone from anywhere for at least 5 years and tell anyone who has a problem with that to "sue me" and take it all the way to the US Supreme Court. Obama ended asylum claims with Cuba ending the "wet foot/dry foot" policy under an Executive Order, so the precedent is already set for the Presidential authority to do this.
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    New Migrant Caravan Forms; Former Trump Campaign Adviser Calls "Political Gift" Before Midterms



    "I wish they were carrying heroin..."

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    A second caravan of Central American migrants has formed, crossing the border from Honduras into Guatemala on Sunday and on to the town of Chiquimula on Monday night, according to Fox News.
    The group is following the first caravan which has been estimated at over 7,000 people by the UN, while Mexican newspaper El Universal says it has swelled to around 14,000.



    Both caravans have are currently headed north and have been met with minimal resistance from government authorities.
    Footage captured by a Fox News crew traveling with the caravan showed trucks handing out food, water and toilet paper to the migrants.
    "My dream is get to the border if we could. If we can't we are going to have to cross the river some way, some how," a Honduran migrant who identified himself as Edwin told Fox News. As he spoke, a truck with people hanging onto the doors and sides passed behind him.
    Another of the lead caravan's members who had previously lived in the U.S., 36-year-old Job Reyes told the Washington Post he's going back because America is “a country where I can live my life, unlike Guatemala.
    Reyes said he grew up in Los Angeles and returned to Guatemala 14 years ago after his visa expired. But now, with the caravan hoping to get across the U.S. border – a move President Trump has threatened to block with the military – Reyes saw an opportunity. -Fox News
    "When I heard about the caravan, I knew it was my chance," Reyes told Fox.




    President Trump, meanwhile, is preparing to deploy the US military to stop the caravan - claiming in a series of Monday tweets that he has "alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy [sic]"
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    Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!
    8:37 AM - Oct 22, 2018



    On Monday night, Trump suggested that the Democrats had "something to do with" the caravan - while making gestures suggesting payments.

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    8:54 AM - Oct 23, 2018




    Vice President Mike Pence, meanwhile, told the Washington Post that there are most certainly people of Middle Eastern descent in the crowd, while Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández told him that the migrant caravan was "financed by Venezuela," according to Breitbart's Joshua Caplan.
    “It’s inconceivable that there are not people of Middle Eastern descent in a crowd of more than 7,000 people advancing toward our border,” Pence said. “In the last fiscal year, we apprehended more than 10 terrorists or suspected terrorists at our southern border from countries referred to in the lexicon as ‘other than Mexico’ — that means from the Middle East region.”
    The Vice President then revealed that Hernández told him that “leftist groups” from the Central American country organized the caravan, “financed by Venezuela” to “challenge our sovereignty, challenge our border.” -Breitbart

    A political gift?



    Former Trump campaign adviser Barry Bennett told the Washington Post that the caravan was a "political gift" for the GOP right before midterms.
    "I wish they were carrying heroin. I wish we had thought of it. It speaks to the dearth of our creativity, unfortunately,” said Bennett, adding "There are 7,000 people marching toward the U.S. border. One party wants to let them in. The other party wants to keep them out."
    According to an October 15 Pew Research poll, 75% of Republican voters consider illegal immigration a "very big" problem, while only 19% of Democrats consider it a top concern.




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    Get ready for the Cartel to create a distraction and DUMP tons of drugs and their terrorist cells over the border due to this massive invasion of our country while our border patrol are distracted and swamped with people!

    Mexico cartels have these cells right on our border waiting for the RIGHT opportunity to do this.


    TRUMP...SHUT THE BORDER DOWN

    SEND THE TROOPS AND TURN THEM ALL AWAY!

    THIS IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY


    Many of these people are sick from the journey, they have contagious diseases, there are hundreds of them all sleeping together in the dirty streets and ditches.

    They are urinating and defecating along the way in unsanitary conditions with no toilet paper and carry hepatitis!

    They have gone through filthy rivers with parasites.


    This is a MAJOR health emergency and risk to our citizens.


    Do not let them in!

    Send the buses now and tell them they will NOT be allowed entry...to get on board the bus and give them a ride back home!

    Many of the elderly, the women and children will give up and go home...they cannot walk another 2400 miles in 90 degree heat!

    Do not allow them to be bused to our border!

    Nip it in the bud!

    Get those buses down their pronto!
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    The Dems October Surprise May be on Them

    It’s hard to get illegal aliens and the dead eager to vote Democrat when Democrats act like at best, a bunch of bumbling idiots or at worst, traitors.


    October 23, 2018
    By William L. Gensert

    If we learned anything from the Kavanaugh smear and the endless Russia collusion investigation, it’s that just as Islam is a political system masquerading as a religion, Democratic Party ideals are a religion masquerading as a political system.
    What they tried to do to Kavanaugh in declaring him a rapist with an absolute lack of evidence, has shown Americans that they do not care who gets hurt in their pursuit of power. How many male voters thought, “That could be me.” How many women voters thought, “That could be my husband; that could be my son.”
    Yet Kavanaugh is merely the most egregious of their missteps. Almost everything the Democrats have done since January 20, 2017, has only served to hurt their chances for the “blue wave.” They took what up until recently seemed to be a sure-thing election sweeping Democrats into control of the House and the Senate and threw it away.
    With Kavanaugh, the unhinged protests, and now, all the violence the left perpetrates on a daily basis -- the only thing they have accomplished with their bad behavior is to take Robert Mueller and his “witch hunt” off the front pages and make it impossible for him to release any report or announce more indictments of foreigners or tertiary Trump associates before election day. The people will see that for what it would be, a purely political stunt to hurt the president and Republicans.
    Announcing that their plans, should they win control of the House, would be to impeach Trump and Kavanaugh is another faux pas. Americans like fair play. The investigation of Trump has been going on for two years and they have nothing. It’s kind of like Al Gore’s strategy in 2000: “We count until I win!”
    They want to investigate Trump until they find any crime they can use to impeach him or better yet, jail him. And like Kavanaugh, it doesn’t even have to be true, as long as it works.
    I think most Americans realize that had they been the subject of a prosecutor with an unlimited budget, they would have long ago been on the nightly news in cuffs with their coat over their head being led into the police station.
    Now we have the 5,000-person “caravan” quickly approaching our border. It may be just me, but the ploy seems to have Democratic fingerprints all over it. There is broad support in America for secure borders.
    This is not going to help the Democrats on November 6. It will seem to many that the Democrats are advocating invasion.

    Just for good measure, throw in Elizabeth “Damn it, I am an Indian” Warren’s idiocy and a question comes to mind. Have the Democrats accomplished anything in the runup to the midterms that have helped their chances? Of course, Trump baited her when he called her “Pocahontas.” But that was some time ago; she didn’t have to bite so hard on the hook and she could have waited until after the midterm elections.
    Not since Gary Hart took a picture with a young woman, not his wife, sitting on his lap on a yacht ironically named Monkey Business has a leading Democrat hurt the chances of winning the nomination as Elizabeth Warren did with the release of her DNA test proving she was between 1/64 and 1/1024 likely to have an ancestor of South American or Mexican Indian heritage. Yet, it’s not just her that will suffer. Citizens may look at her claim and think, “If this is all the Democrats have, why should I vote for them?”
    “It’s better to remain silent and have people think you are an idiot than to speak and remove all doubt.” Elizabeth Warren removed all doubt while co-opting the entire Democrat/media propaganda machine for precious days before November 6, making it about herself and her lies.

    It has been said that President Donald Trump is a buffoon, that he is a loudmouth from Queens with little impulse control. But everything Trump does can be seen in a different light if one only bothers to look. Much of what the president says on Twitter and during political rallies can be interpreted as deliberate and designed to control the conversation.
    The problem with Republicans has always been they have no fight in them and make no attempt to control what people are discussing in the media -- and by media, I do not just mean the mainstream media -- I mean all media including Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Republicans have always been reactive, not proactive.
    President Trump has sure changed that, hasn’t he? For the first time in my memory it is a Republican dictating the national discussion. He says something on Twitter or at a rally, then he steps back and watches as the mainstream media, FB, Twitter, Instagram, strangers on line at Whole Foods (“Thank you, come again”) lose their collective minds in horror about the insensitivity.
    Trump is a fighter and he’s shown Republicans that while losing with honor may make you feel good for a day, winning ugly will make you feel good for a lifetime.
    Trump has Democrats playing his game and it’s not a good look for them. David Gelernter wrote in the Wall Street Journal that all the Democrats have is their hatred of Trump and many people may see that as a hatred of the country as well.
    “Not that every leftist hates America. But the leftists I know do hate Mr. Trump’s vulgarity, his unwillingness to walk away from a fight, his bluntness, his certainty that America is exceptional, his mistrust of intellectuals, his love of simple ideas that work, and his refusal to believe that men and women are interchangeable. Worst of all, he has no ideology except getting the job done. His goals are to do the task before him, not be pushed around, and otherwise to enjoy life. In short, he is a typical American -- except exaggerated, because he has no constraints to cramp his style except the ones he himself invents.”
    These are all unforced errors on the Democrats' part, and let’s face it, it’s hard to get illegal aliens and the dead eager to vote Democratic when Democrats act like at best, a bunch of bumbling idiots or at worst, traitors.

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    It's funny to me how these people are so tough and bold with law enforcement but downright cowards with the "gangs". If you don't like the gangs in your towns, why don't you big tough guys run them the hell out of town down there? Pick up some pipe and beat 'em to death if you don't have a gun. There's more of you than them. I love how that Honduran guy who plead asylum up here left his poor aunt down in Honduras in gang land.

    Who believes this? Only idiots believe these stories. There ARE the gangs and they're invading our nation of stupidity.
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    POTUS Trump says a “national emergency” exists over approaching migrant caravan now exceeding 10,000 people

    (Natural News) POTUS Donald Trump on Monday hinted that a “national emergency” existed in the United States after it became apparent that Mexican authorities were either unable to stop a migrant caravan that has crossed its southern border or are unwilling to do so. The caravan, which originated ‘spontaneously’ in Honduras, has swelled … [Read More...]

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    (Natural News) POTUS Donald Trump on Monday hinted that a “national emergency” existed in the United States after it became apparent that Mexican authorities were either unable to stop a migrant caravan that has crossed its southern border or are unwilling to do so.

    The caravan, which originated ‘spontaneously’ in Honduras, has swelled in size as migrants made their way across Guatemala and entered Mexico. Initially, reports said the caravan consisted of about 1,000 migrants but that number has now reached nearly 10,000 and is expected to grow even larger.
    “Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emerg[enc]y. Must change laws!” the president tweeted.
    “Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally,” he continued.
    “Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them,” said POTUS.
    The mention of “unknown” people from the Middle East appears to indicate that the president has intelligence suggesting that there could be terrorist suspects interspersed in the caravan. And while there may be known “criminals” in the rapidly expanding caravan, anyone who crosses illegally into the U.S. has broken the country’s immigration laws.

    Trump could order the border shut down

    It’s unclear at this point if POTUS Trump has actually declared a national emergency, which would be contained in an executive order. As of this writing, no order has been issued.
    However, as the president mentioned in his tweet, he has “alerted” both the Border Patrol – a Department of Homeland Security agency – and the Pentagon that a ‘national emergency’ exists, which, if true, gives him extraordinary powers. (Related: POTUS Trump: Migrant caravan a ‘disgrace to the Democrat Party’.)
    Under the National Emergencies Act, passed in 1976 to actually prevent presidents from declaring open-ended national emergencies while providing Congress some oversight authority, POTUS Trump’s authorities are triggered under other various statutes. They are not automatically authorized, however; they must be identified specifically within an actual written declaration before the authorities can be conveyed.
    And while emergency powers are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, it’s well understood through more than two centuries’ worth of precedent that a “national emergency” consists of anything from an act of war to natural and financial disasters. A rush of humanity at the U.S. border certainly falls under this category.
    “Such a declaration allows suspension of change in functions of any branch of government, and gives the government the power to suspend certain rights or freedoms normally guaranteed by the Constitution,” notes LegalDictionary.net.
    “Powers under states of emergency are implied and largely discretionary, however, the Constitution specifically states that the privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus cannot be suspended unless the safety of the public is compromised during times of rebellion” (take note, Antifa), the site noted further. “Only Congress has the authority to suspend the Writ.”
    Under a formally declared national emergency, POTUS Trump could marshal the resources necessary to close the U.S. border if he believed it was necessary to protect the country, while still allowing traditional trade and commerce to continue.
    He could federalize National Guard troops more easily and send them to the border even if states objected.
    And he could theoretically suspend current laws such as those pertaining to current border, immigration, and asylum processes that would allow virtually any migrant who arrived at the U.S. border free passage into the country.

    Read more about the migrant invasion into the U.S. at OpenBorders.news.
    Sources include:
    LegalDictionary.net
    ZeroHedge.com
    InvasionUSA.news

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