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    Senate Conservatives Huddle With House Members to Plot Immigration Revolt

    Senate Conservatives Huddle With House Members to Plot Immigration Revolt

    “Part of it is that leadership (as proxies for the Chamber of Commerce) wants the amnesty; Obama’s order provides a way to deliver cheap labor to the Chamber without having to vote for it. Part of it is an absolute fear of any conflict, including even a partial ‘shutdown.’
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    December 4, 2014 7:51 PM

    A trio of senators crossed the Capitol last night to discuss the congressional response to President Obama’s recent executive orders on immigration. The consensus: Republican leadership doesn’t want to fight Obama, so the lawmakers have to hope that grassroots activists can goad their colleagues into a more aggressive posture.

    “I hope that the American people will speak up and share their views with Congress and good strong language will come out of the House,” Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) told National Review Online Thursday afternoon.

    Sessions demurred when asked about coordination with House colleagues — “all of us are curious about what they’re doing,” he said — but multiple sources tell NRO that Sessions, Senator David Vitter (R., La.), and Senator Mike Lee (R., Utah) met with a group of House members last night in the office of Arizona representative Matt Salmon. Vitter also organized a conference call with some House Republicans Wednesday afternoon. The purpose of the two encounters, which happened on the same day that Texas senator Ted Cruz met with Iowa representative Steve King, was to emphasize that “the first bill that you guys do was really our best and only chance,” according to one Senate aide; the Senate hawks won’t be able to instigate a fight if the House passes a bill that provides long-term funding for the entire government.

    In the evening meeting, the lawmakers compared notes about their distrust for Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) and House speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio).

    “There is a general belief that, despite the rhetoric from leadership after the executive order was announced, they really have no desire to do anything substantive to fight this,” one lawmaker who attended the meeting explained to NRO in a series of text messages. “Part of it is that leadership (as proxies for the Chamber [of Commerce]) wants the amnesty; Obama’s order provides a way to deliver cheap labor to the Chamber without having to vote for it. Part of it is an absolute fear of any conflict, including even a partial ‘shutdown.’”

    Members of the small group believe that about 50 or 60 House Republicans are opposed to the House leadership’s current plan (a CRomnibus bill that passes several long-term appropriations bills but leaves the Department of Homeland Security operating on a short-term continuing resolution of as-yet-undetermined length).

    “The thing is that Sessions’s opposition will likely flip the whole [Alabama and Mississippi] GOP delegations (these guys usually would vote for a bloated omnibus) so it won’t necessarily be the same 50 or 60 who voted against other bloated bills like the farm bill,” the lawmaker suggested.

    House leaders are expected to partner with Democrats, so the conservative rank-and-file opponents think they’ll need the outside activist groups to ramp up the pressure on other lawmakers.

    “Basically, [the] senators felt outside groups and the grassroots need to get engaged — the membership is largely behind the leadership so there is a need to get the members to whip ‘No’ so that leadership is forced to do something different,” the lawmaker said. That effort has already begun, to some degree, but it hasn’t been enough to convince Republicans to pass a bill in the lame-duck session that stipulates that federal funding may not be used to implement the executive orders.

    “I’m very skeptical that outside groups will make a big difference because only some of them even engage on immigration and the ones that do aren’t as influential as they used to be,” the lawmaker lamented.

    They aren’t giving up, the senators told the House members, even if they lose the funding fight. The Republican-controlled Senate, next year, could ask every presidential nominee with immigration-related responsibilities if they think Obama’s order is constitutional.

    “If they say they will follow Obama then how can a GOP senator justify voting for a nominee who will violate his oath of office?” the lawmaker said.

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    They aren’t giving up, the senators told the House members, even if they lose the funding fight. The Republican-controlled Senate, next year, could ask every presidential nominee with immigration-related responsibilities if they think Obama’s order is constitutional.

    “If they say they will follow Obama then how can a GOP senator justify voting for a nominee who will violate his oath of office?” the lawmaker said.
    Oh My God. Since when have you as a Congress since 1789 ever impeached an appointee for lying to you? If they want the job, now they know they're going to tell you something tricky like "I will enforce the laws." just like every other nominee or appointee has told you since the beginning of our nation.

    The FACTS FOR DUMMIES is that they lie, they deceive, they're reptiles, not unlike many of our members of Congress who haven't passed a beneficial piece of legislation for the American people in 100 years. You haven't repealed the income tax destroying our economy and replaced it with the FAIRTAX, you haven't passed the CLEAR ACT that would authorize states to enforce US immigration law, you haven't passed the E-Verify law that would remove the "I didn't know they were illegal" defense from treasonous employers violating US immigration, US Civil Rights and US Labor Laws, you haven't repealed the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945 that would place the insurance industry under federal regulation when it does business across state lines so 1/6 of our economy that is now exempt from the Sherman Anti-Trust Act would be subject to it, you haven't repealed 1 Free Trade Treason Agreement when they've all sent our economy into the crapper, you haven't reduced spending or stopped the growth in our national debt or paid it down by a dime, you haven't ended the War on Drugs which is the Number One Reason we have open borders and illegal immigration, you haven't reduced the number of legal immigrants you're allowing into the country every year putting American citizens out of work, you haven't done squat to improve our country in any way, shape or form.

    You're all a bunch of worthless blowhards no better than Obama and his illegal aliens draining our economy and pumping up our debt to impoverish the American People and bankrupt our nation, while they all laugh at US citizens all the way to their illegal alien friendly bank to deposit their income tax deductible donations and line their pockets at our expense by running up our debt right before they run down to the welfare office to sign up for some hand-outs to run it up some more.
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    It seems that no minds were changed by the election. It is still the same few fighting for right. Leaders especially are still leading in the manner they led prior to the election. Yeah,...same ol' same ol' when we elect the same ol' same ol'.

    It is we, the people, that need a different plan and a different band of politicians to execute the plan.
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    Oh My God. Since when have you as a Congress since 1789 ever impeached an appointee for lying to you? If they want the job, now they know they're going to tell you something tricky like "I will enforce the laws." just like every other nominee or appointee has told you since the beginning of our nation. The FACTS FOR DUMMIES is that they lie, they deceive, they're reptiles, not unlike many of our members of Congress who haven't passed a beneficial piece of legislation for the American people in 100 years. You haven't repealed the income tax destroying our economy and replaced it with the FAIRTAX, you haven't passed the CLEAR ACT that would authorize states to enforce US immigration law, you haven't passed the E-Verify law that would remove the "I didn't know they were illegal" defense from treasonous employers violating US immigration, US Civil Rights and US Labor Laws, you haven't repealed the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945 that would place the insurance industry under federal regulation when it does business across state lines so 1/6 of our economy that is now exempt from the Sherman Anti-Trust Act would be subject to it, you haven't repealed 1 Free Trade Treason Agreement when they've all sent our economy into the crapper, you haven't reduced spending or stopped the growth in our national debt or paid it down by a dime, you haven't ended the War on Drugs which is the Number One Reason we have open borders and illegal immigration, you haven't reduced the number of legal immigrants you're allowing into the country every year putting American citizens out of work, you haven't done squat to improve our country in any way, shape or form.You're all a bunch of worthless blowhards no better than Obama and his illegal aliens draining our economy and pumping up our debt to impoverish the American People and bankrupt our nation, while they all laugh at US citizens all the way to their illegal alien friendly bank to deposit their income tax deductible donations and line their pockets at our expense by running up our debt right before they run down to the welfare office to sign up for some hand-outs to run it up some more.
    VERY well said, Judy, Bravo !!!

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    I often wonder what it would be like for most of Congress and Obongo/Soetoro to not constantly be trying to figure out ways to betray us and OUR country?
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    Thank you, Tray!
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