Thread: Senate leaders announce stopgap funding deal to avert shutdown

Originally Posted by MW

More false information. For the 100th time, Trump never said anything about allowing DACA to expire because DACA had no actual expiration date. That was something Spicer misspoke on at one briefing.

Furthermore, yes Trump promised he would end DACA on day one of his presidency.

I like how you attempt to obfuscate by including DAPA and the DACA extension in your soapbox rant. Those are not issues we're discussing and neither was going to happen regardless of anything Trump did.

As for DACA, Trump wanted to continue the program, but AG Jeff Sessions refused to defend it in the courts. AG Ken Paxton of Texas and his allied states effectively ended DACA with Jeff Sessions help. Of course we're now waiting on the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on it. These are all things you know, but adjust the facts to make Trump seem more favorable. Trump blew it on DACA and everyone but you knows it!

I think you need to relax and chill. It seems to me that your Hate Trump strategy isn't working out very well for you. You might want to try a different plan. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Beezer

IS TRUMP STILL ISSUING THESE COUNTRIES VISA'S?

WORK VISA'S? DID HE PUT SANCTIONS ON THEM TO TAKE THEM BACK?

HELL YEAH...GIVE THEM FAKE ID'S AND BOOT THEM OFF OUR SOIL!

There's two different sets of issues. There's the criminals that get out of prison and Trump tries to deport back to their home countries and the home countries refuse to take them, those are the ones where Trump threatened to pull their visas to visit the US. Then there's just the refugee TPS people that other Presidents let in many years ago, never told them to leave, and now Trump is trying to get them out of here and those countries are claiming they can't accept them, because there's too many of them and they don't have any jobs or economy to support them if they're returned. To my knowledge, Trump never threatened visas on those. So after an extension to give the countries more time to figure out what to do with all these people coming home, Trump starts issuing deportation orders and then the DemoQuacks filed lawsuits to stop the deportations. Whether those will impact all the TPS countries or just the 2 or 3 groups that have filed lawsuits, I don't know. It's a big mess because there's so many of them and they've been here so long.

We are not saying WE hate Trump.

We HATE the swamp and the lies and he is falling right in line with it!

We HATE these lying, thieving, swamp rats throwing us under the bus!

HE WASTED TWO WHOLE YEARS AND NOTHING HAS STOPPED!

His "have a heart for DACA"...his damn tweets...Sessions is gone.

WE WANT NO "ART OF THE DEAL" ON OUR NATIONAL SECURITY! THIS IS NOT YOUR TWO-BIT RUN DOWN APARTMENT COMPLEXES!

WE DO NOT NEED TO CHILL

WE NEED TO RISE UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

GET THESE PEOPLE OFF OUR SOIL...BOOT THEM OUT AND STOP BRINGING MORE HERE!

QUIT THE THREATS TO SHUT THE WHOLE BORDER DOWN! DO IT AND MAKE MEXICO SEND THEM BACK!

QUIT THE THREATS TO CUT OFF THE AID TO MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA...YOU LIED AND PLEDGED MORE OF OUR MONEY

QUIT THE THREATS OF EXECUTIVE ORDER ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP...YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT!

YOU ARE FLOODING OUR COUNTRY WITH YOUR WORK VISA'S AND CHEAP LABOR

NOW YOU ARE LETTING CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL AND CRIMINALS POUR OVER OUR BORDER!

SEND THEIR DAMN UAC'S BACK!

Originally Posted by Beezer

We are not saying WE hate Trump.

We HATE the swamp and the lies and he is falling right in line with it!

We HATE these lying, thieving, swamp rats throwing us under the bus!

HE WASTED TWO WHOLE YEARS AND NOTHING HAS STOPPED!

His "have a heart for DACA"...his damn tweets...Sessions is gone.

WE WANT NO "ART OF THE DEAL" ON OUR NATIONAL SECURITY! THIS IS NOT YOUR TWO-BIT RUN DOWN APARTMENT COMPLEXES!

WE DO NOT NEED TO CHILL

WE NEED TO RISE UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

GET THESE PEOPLE OFF OUR SOIL...BOOT THEM OUT AND STOP BRINGING MORE HERE!

QUIT THE THREATS TO SHUT THE WHOLE BORDER DOWN! DO IT AND MAKE MEXICO SEND THEM BACK!

QUIT THE THREATS TO CUT OFF THE AID TO MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA...YOU LIED AND PLEDGED MORE OF OUR MONEY

QUIT THE THREATS OF EXECUTIVE ORDER ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP...YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT!

YOU ARE FLOODING OUR COUNTRY WITH YOUR WORK VISA'S AND CHEAP LABOR

NOW YOU ARE LETTING CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL AND CRIMINALS POUR OVER OUR BORDER!

SEND THEIR DAMN UAC'S BACK!

It's about strategy, Beezer. It's about marketing what you want to achieve. I don't understand how anyone involved in our cause thinks tearing down and destroying our only Salesman is going to achieve the goal. Who is going to vote for a border wall when a) you don't want one to begin with or b) his own so-called people are calling him a fraud, a traitor, a swamp rat, a liar, a betrayer, a broken promise maker, etc., etc., etc.? THAT STRATEGY IS GOING TO FAIL EVERY SINGLE TIME, whether you're trying to sell tourists some peanuts at the beach or members of Congress on a $25 billion border wall.

The DemoQuacks started this divide and conquer propaganda strategy in March of 2017. I've got to hand it to them, it was brilliant, evil, but brilliant and they ran it hard as rain right up and through the mid-terms. They started it with DACA and then the Wall Funding and it worked so well they used it on tax cuts, Obamacare, the Russia Hoax, trade negotiations, all of it, everything he's done. Things Trump can do himself, he completed anyway, things he needed from Congress were impossible. The midterms were won by DemoQuacks by dividing Republicans and Independents to swing them to vote Democrat in the mid-terms or stay home. To me, it was the most successful voter suppression marketing campaign in my life time, to see 12 million Trump Voters vote against Republicans in the US House of Representatives by 9 million votes is just incredible. They didn't turn Trump Supporters, they turned Trump Voters and it cost those of us who want to stop illegal immigration everything. Everything that we could have done with a few more Republican Senators and a solid majority in the House got flushed straight down the toilet. To be in the position we were in with such a high-performing Republican led Congress and the most aggressive smart hard-working President with amazing remarkable accomplishments all over the place from A to Z to lose the midterms is nothing short of an inexplicable treachery.

And there's no fixing what happened on November 6, 2018. Americans let their country go over lies about lies.

Originally Posted by Judy

Trump's getting a legal opinion on the military building the wall, how much, what type, where and on what basis. It should be approved because of the caravans creating a national emergency of foreigners storming our borders and to counter illegal drug flows controlled by the foreign drug cartels. He probably won't be able to use the military to build the entire wall, but some major high-risk sections should definitely qualify.

How do you know he is getting a legal opinion, as to what, where, and how?


Why would he get a legal opinion, he already said the military would build the wall and you have posted several times the military will build the wall, so why is he getting a legal opinion? Should have already done that before he made the promise that you keep repeating like it is fact.

Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders

How do you know he is getting a legal opinion, as to what, where, and how?


Why would he get a legal opinion, he already said the military would build the wall and you have posted several times the military will build the wall, so why is he getting a legal opinion? Should have already done that before he made the promise that you keep repeating like it is fact.

To know the conditions, restrictions, limitations and requirements to be compliant with the law when they start the work.

It was on Fox News today.

Originally Posted by Judy

To know the conditions, restrictions, limitations and requirements to be compliant with the law when they start the work.

It was on Fox News today.

Don't you think he should have done that before tweeting the military WILL build the wall?

Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders

Don't you think he should have done that before tweeting the military WILL build the wall?

No. Schumer is the monkey who should have done that. Schumer isn't even in charge of the US Senate, let alone the Executive Branch who decides such things. You need to get your little ugly monkey some tissues, I think he's going to ... cry again. Cryin' Chuck!!!!

Originally Posted by Beezer

We are not saying WE hate Trump.

We HATE the swamp and the lies and he is falling right in line with it!

We HATE these lying, thieving, swamp rats throwing us under the bus!

HE WASTED TWO WHOLE YEARS AND NOTHING HAS STOPPED!

His "have a heart for DACA"...his damn tweets...Sessions is gone.

WE WANT NO "ART OF THE DEAL" ON OUR NATIONAL SECURITY! THIS IS NOT YOUR TWO-BIT RUN DOWN APARTMENT COMPLEXES!

WE DO NOT NEED TO CHILL

WE NEED TO RISE UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

GET THESE PEOPLE OFF OUR SOIL...BOOT THEM OUT AND STOP BRINGING MORE HERE!

QUIT THE THREATS TO SHUT THE WHOLE BORDER DOWN! DO IT AND MAKE MEXICO SEND THEM BACK!

QUIT THE THREATS TO CUT OFF THE AID TO MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA...YOU LIED AND PLEDGED MORE OF OUR MONEY

QUIT THE THREATS OF EXECUTIVE ORDER ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP...YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT!

YOU ARE FLOODING OUR COUNTRY WITH YOUR WORK VISA'S AND CHEAP LABOR

NOW YOU ARE LETTING CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL AND CRIMINALS POUR OVER OUR BORDER!

SEND THEIR DAMN UAC'S BACK!

Thanks for saying exactly what so many others, including myself, are thinking!

Originally Posted by Judy

I think you need to relax and chill. It seems to me that your Hate Trump strategy isn't working out very well for you. You might want to try a different plan. Just sayin'.

Allow me to repeat what Beezer said:

We are not saying WE hate Trump.

We HATE the swamp and the lies and he is falling right in line with it!

We HATE these lying, thieving, swamp rats throwing us under the bus!

HE WASTED TWO WHOLE YEARS AND NOTHING HAS STOPPED!

His "have a heart for DACA"...his damn tweets...Sessions is gone.

WE WANT NO "ART OF THE DEAL" ON OUR NATIONAL SECURITY! THIS IS NOT YOUR TWO-BIT RUN DOWN APARTMENT COMPLEXES!

WE DO NOT NEED TO CHILL

WE NEED TO RISE UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

GET THESE PEOPLE OFF OUR SOIL...BOOT THEM OUT AND STOP BRINGING MORE HERE!

QUIT THE THREATS TO SHUT THE WHOLE BORDER DOWN! DO IT AND MAKE MEXICO SEND THEM BACK!

QUIT THE THREATS TO CUT OFF THE AID TO MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA...YOU LIED AND PLEDGED MORE OF OUR MONEY

QUIT THE THREATS OF EXECUTIVE ORDER ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP...YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT!

YOU ARE FLOODING OUR COUNTRY WITH YOUR WORK VISA'S AND CHEAP LABOR

NOW YOU ARE LETTING CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL AND CRIMINALS POUR OVER OUR BORDER!

SEND THEIR DAMN UAC'S BACK!