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    Yes, you're probably right, Populist, it's part of their strategy...first introduce a way over the top extreme bill so that the one they come up with later seems more reasonable.

    Especially during these times of high unemployment, it seems less likely this can fly. Plus it will be an election year when they try to avoid top issues like this. 2010 is going to be a very interesting year I think.
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    so by pass the OBL's bill and attack like there is no tomorrow on the Schumer's / Graham's amnesty bill ... that is what they do not expect

    they want us to go after the OBL and consider Schumer's / Graham's amnesty as moderate and it is not... it's another sham shell game played by DC.

    as it is under an economic collapse and RECORD unemployment the Schumer's / Graham's amnesty bill is extreme as it is

    The flim flam men are at it again
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    Stuff it Schumer...twice fooled and all that crap...we are not going there again!

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    Illegal Immigration

    TO ALL THE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVE IN THE US:

    WE DO NOT WANT ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE. WE DO NOT WANT AMNESTY.

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS NOW.

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    AMNESTY IS STILL TREASON!!!!! AND, THESE TREASONOUS SENATORS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NOW!!!!!!

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    Here's Mark Krikorian's take on this:
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    National Review Online
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    Taqiyya in Immigration [Mark Krikorian]

    The Democratic amnesty bill is almost like something I'd write as a parody. Sec. 157, for instance, prohibits the arrest of any illegal or criminal alien on the premises of, or in the immediate vicinity of, a childcare provider, a school, a legal-service provider, a Federal court or State court proceeding, an administrative proceeding, a funeral home, a cemetery, a college, university, or community college, a victim-services agency, a social-service agency, a hospital or emergency-care center, a health-care clinic, a place of worship, a day-care center, a head-start center, a school bus stop, a recreation center, a mental-health facility, or a community center. Depending on how you define "immediate vicinity," that wouldn't leave much of anywhere to arrest illegal aliens, which is the point.

    But this bill is more than just an object of hilarity. It accurately reveals what the open-borders side really wants, or at least what they think they can safely reveal about their goals.

    The counterpart bill in the Senate, to be introduced early next year by Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham, will have the same broad outlines but won't be quite as wacky. But the difference between the bills won't simply be one of degree, like whether we should buy 10 new fighter jets or 20. Rather, the Senate bill will be an exercise in taqiyya or dissimulation, an attempt to deceive the public into believing that the supporters of legalization will vigorously enforce new, tougher immigration laws in the future once the current illegal population is amnestied. The House bill makes clear, in this provision and in many others, that that's simply not true.

    12/17 09:50 AM

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    If an amnesty is passed and they could actually end any further illegal immigration we would still be over run by 200 million more people applying for citizenship through family reunification. Amazing that that fact is never mentioned.
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    Lou Dobbs has recently stated that some illegals could obtain legal status “under certain conditionsâ€

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    Rather, the Senate bill will be an exercise in taqiyya or dissimulation, an attempt to deceive the public into believing that the supporters of legalization will vigorously enforce new, tougher immigration laws in the future once the current illegal population is amnestied.
    This was puzzling for me to read. Why not simply vigorously enforce old, tough, immigration laws NOW ?

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