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    (SOB) Hispanics want to vote, but many can't

    http://juantornoe.blogs.com/hispanic...nics-want.html

    Hispanics want to vote, but many can't
    July 6, 2008
    By Ashley Kelly

    As campaign volunteers register voters for the November presidential election, they've run into a problem — citizenship.


    While a number of the city's Hispanic residents want to vote, many are ineligible because they're not U.S. citizens.

    "There is a real desire to participate and such energy and knowledge, but they feel disempowered about how to participate," said Jerry Maldonado, a volunteer who recently participated in a voter registration drive in Washington Heights in the city.

    About 80 percent of the Hispanics Maldonado met were residents but not citizens, he said. Many told Maldonado that navigating the citizenship process was a struggle.

    The citizenship issue is not unique to Newburgh, where 36 percent of the residents are Hispanic, according to the 2000 U.S. Census. The issue has also played out on the national stage.

    The Missouri legislature is pushing for an amendment to its state constitution that would require proof of citizenship for registered voters. According to the New York Times, backers of the amendment say it's intended to prevent illegal immigrants from influencing the political process.

    "There are some here who can vote, but just as many who can't," said Democratic volunteer Shellye Schoonmaker, noting a large number of undocumented workers in the city.

    Schoonmaker has reached out to local business owners in the Hispanic community to draw new voters into the political process by distributing bilingual materials.

    A 2007 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington, D.C., found that 4.7 million Hispanics out of 16.6 million are U.S. citizens. The report cited citizenship as one of the factors that diminishes their electoral power, which will comprise 9 percent of the national electorate this year. Previous trends indicate that Hispanics will make up 6.5 percent of the voters who turn out in November, according to the report.

    "We're missing out on people who really work hard to take care of their families and want to be a part of the process," said Sonia Ayala, a Barack Obama delegate.

    On the local level, Maldonado said more outreach and information about how to navigate through the citizenship process is essential.

    Source: Times Herald-Record
    LEGAL immigrants can become US citizens after 5 years of LEGAL residency. Ilegal aliens cannot. You cannot be part of a process when you refuse to abide by the LAWS of that process DUH!

    According to the Pew Hispanic Center, there are only 4.7 million hispanics eligible to vote in the US! The remainder - 11.9% are mostly ILLEGAL aliens, and these are the ones Obama and McLame are catering to?!?!?!
    FRAUD! FRAUD! FRAUD!
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    And thank God they can't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Never look at another flag. Remember, that behind Government, there is your country, and that you belong to her as you do belong to your own mother. Stand by her as you would stand by your own mother

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    They can VOTE..... In their HOME COUNTRY

    Austa La Bye~Bye

    Go back home and vote in a decent Government and Watch how we clean up ours.

    We are cleaning up the Corruption on American soil and suggest you go back home and do the same
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    Re: (SOB) Hispanics want to vote, but many can't

    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    http://juantornoe.blogs.com/hispanic...nics-want.html

    Hispanics want to vote, but many can't
    July 6, 2008
    By Ashley Kelly

    As campaign volunteers register voters for the November presidential election, they've run into a problem — citizenship.


    While a number of the city's Hispanic residents want to vote, many are ineligible because they're not U.S. citizens.

    "There is a real desire to participate and such energy and knowledge, but they feel disempowered about how to participate," said Jerry Maldonado, a volunteer who recently participated in a voter registration drive in Washington Heights in the city.

    About 80 percent of the Hispanics Maldonado met were residents but not citizens, he said. Many told Maldonado that navigating the citizenship process was a struggle.

    The citizenship issue is not unique to Newburgh, where 36 percent of the residents are Hispanic, according to the 2000 U.S. Census. The issue has also played out on the national stage.

    The Missouri legislature is pushing for an amendment to its state constitution that would require proof of citizenship for registered voters. According to the New York Times, backers of the amendment say it's intended to prevent illegal immigrants from influencing the political process.

    "There are some here who can vote, but just as many who can't," said Democratic volunteer Shellye Schoonmaker, noting a large number of undocumented workers in the city.

    Schoonmaker has reached out to local business owners in the Hispanic community to draw new voters into the political process by distributing bilingual materials.

    A 2007 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington, D.C., found that 4.7 million Hispanics out of 16.6 million are U.S. citizens. The report cited citizenship as one of the factors that diminishes their electoral power, which will comprise 9 percent of the national electorate this year. Previous trends indicate that Hispanics will make up 6.5 percent of the voters who turn out in November, according to the report.

    "We're missing out on people who really work hard to take care of their families and want to be a part of the process," said Sonia Ayala, a Barack Obama delegate.

    On the local level, Maldonado said more outreach and information about how to navigate through the citizenship process is essential.

    Source: Times Herald-Record
    LEGAL immigrants can become US citizens after 5 years of LEGAL residency. Ilegal aliens cannot. You cannot be part of a process when you refuse to abide by the LAWS of that process DUH!

    According to the Pew Hispanic Center, there are only 4.7 million hispanics eligible to vote in the US! The remainder - 11.9% are mostly ILLEGAL aliens, and these are the ones Obama and McLame are catering to?!?!?!
    FRAUD! FRAUD! FRAUD!
    That's alarming miguelina because Obama has admitted there are 44 million hispanics in this country. If both figures are correct and only 4.7 million hispanics are eligible to vote, or 10% of the hispanic population can legally vote. What the hell are they pandering to these people !
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    Re: (SOB) Hispanics want to vote, but many can't

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    http://juantornoe.blogs.com/hispanic...nics-want.html

    Hispanics want to vote, but many can't
    July 6, 2008
    By Ashley Kelly

    As campaign volunteers register voters for the November presidential election, they've run into a problem — citizenship.


    While a number of the city's Hispanic residents want to vote, many are ineligible because they're not U.S. citizens.

    "There is a real desire to participate and such energy and knowledge, but they feel disempowered about how to participate," said Jerry Maldonado, a volunteer who recently participated in a voter registration drive in Washington Heights in the city.

    About 80 percent of the Hispanics Maldonado met were residents but not citizens, he said. Many told Maldonado that navigating the citizenship process was a struggle.

    The citizenship issue is not unique to Newburgh, where 36 percent of the residents are Hispanic, according to the 2000 U.S. Census. The issue has also played out on the national stage.

    The Missouri legislature is pushing for an amendment to its state constitution that would require proof of citizenship for registered voters. According to the New York Times, backers of the amendment say it's intended to prevent illegal immigrants from influencing the political process.

    "There are some here who can vote, but just as many who can't," said Democratic volunteer Shellye Schoonmaker, noting a large number of undocumented workers in the city.

    Schoonmaker has reached out to local business owners in the Hispanic community to draw new voters into the political process by distributing bilingual materials.

    A 2007 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington, D.C., found that 4.7 million Hispanics out of 16.6 million are U.S. citizens. The report cited citizenship as one of the factors that diminishes their electoral power, which will comprise 9 percent of the national electorate this year. Previous trends indicate that Hispanics will make up 6.5 percent of the voters who turn out in November, according to the report.

    "We're missing out on people who really work hard to take care of their families and want to be a part of the process," said Sonia Ayala, a Barack Obama delegate.

    On the local level, Maldonado said more outreach and information about how to navigate through the citizenship process is essential.

    Source: Times Herald-Record
    LEGAL immigrants can become US citizens after 5 years of LEGAL residency. Ilegal aliens cannot. You cannot be part of a process when you refuse to abide by the LAWS of that process DUH!

    According to the Pew Hispanic Center, there are only 4.7 million hispanics eligible to vote in the US! The remainder - 11.9% are mostly ILLEGAL aliens, and these are the ones Obama and McLame are catering to?!?!?!
    FRAUD! FRAUD! FRAUD!
    That's alarming miguelina because Obama has admitted there are 44 million hispanics in this country. If both figures are correct and only 4.7 million hispanics are eligible to vote, or 10% of the hispanic population can legally vote. What the hell are they pandering to these people !

    I've read articles that state that the latino or hispanic voting block is just a myth and a very low percentage of those who can even vote do not even vote. So the reason for the pandering is mind boggling since even those who can vote usually do not and have never even voted.

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    Oh no big deal, just that minor detail called ... citizenship
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Oh no big deal, just that minor detail called ... citizenship

    It's disgusting how they act like just because they broke the law to be here that they should be given the right to vote. What's sovereignty for then?

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    Illegal aliens and legal immigrants are registering to vote without being citizens. And they are also voting in their home country too (Mexicans living abroad can vote in Mexico anyway). All ballots should be printed only in English.

    If Hispanics make up 9% of the voters and Obama and McCain cater to them, who is going to win the voters of the remaining 91% of the citizens?

    From article: Illegal Voting

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-122839.html

    excerpts:

    [b]Amid all the talk of new voters becoming involved in the election, hopefully one group of voters will not vote in November — non-citizens, many of whom are illegally registered to vote all over the country, particularly in the southwest. Although there is no reliable method to determine the exact number registered aliens, there is evidence that this is a significant and growing problem.

    The Government Accountability Office estimated that up to 3 percent of individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like a large number, it’s more than enough to tip close elections — say, Florida in 2000.. Florida has over a million illegal aliens, and the Justice Department has prosecuted non-citizens, including a state-legislature candidate, for voting there. In California, a congressional seat came within 200 votes of being stolen in 1996 by non-citizens’ voting; a city councilmember was permanently disqualified from public office for soliciting non-citizens to vote in Compton in 2001.

    ......In 1985, the district director of the Immigration and Naturalization Services testified in the Illinois legislature that 25,000 illegal and 40,000 legal aliens remained registered in Chicago. The grand jury found that aliens registered so they could “obtain documents identifying them as U.S. citizensâ€
    "Distrust and caution are the parents of security."
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    Absolute ignorance. Should any form of amnesty ever be approved, God forbid, the non-citizens who even registered to vote would not be eligible for that amnesty, it's a felony? and a deportable offense.
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    Sure they can vote..just go to any state like Washington State and do the motor voter license registration. Easy as pie. No citizenship verification required.
    PLUS, they can vote in Mexico, as dual citizenship I believe is automatic for every citizen here that is a Foreign National from Mexico.
    Now, is that right???

    Falls into the lump of what is good for the goose is good for the gander, NOT !!

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