Thread: SOME CHOICE: SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS OR FASCIST REPUBLICANS

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SOME CHOICE: SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS OR FASCIST REPUBLICANS

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin
October 10, 2006
NewsWithViews.com

Whenever some well-meaning conservative Christian takes issue with one of my columns chronicling the abysmal governing record of Republicans, he or she almost always exclaims, "Think how bad it would be if Democrats were in charge." The fact is, however, there has been no redemption in having the GOP in charge of the entire federal government.
The argument of voting for the lesser of two evils, meaning Republicans, loses its credence when one examines the record. And the record is clear: the GOP has developed a philosophy tantamount to fascism. Consider the following recent developments.
The Republican-led House of Representatives just recently approved a bill requiring school districts around the country to establish policies to conduct wide scale searches of students, including pat-downs, bag searches, or strip searches. I wonder how many parents are aware that their Republican representatives in Washington, D.C., are wanting to require strip searches of their children at the whim of public school employees?
Secondly, President Bush has once again defied Congress and pushed the envelope of executive power by unabashedly stating that he has "the power to edit the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists." Bush made the above declaration in another one of his copious signing statements.
Yet, as many legal experts have warned, Bush's propensity to use excessive signing statements is nothing more than a way to expand his power. There is little legal justification for such action, but with Republicans in charge of Congress, who is going to blow the whistle on him? We couldn't even trust Congress to blow the whistle on Mark Foley!
Thirdly, the Bush administration has apparently successfully convinced Congress to permanently dismantle the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It's not worded that way, of course, but that is exactly what they are doing.
Specifically, according to former Republican congressman Bob Barr, the Republican House has passed, and the Senate appears ready to pass, legislation requested by President Bush that would "allow warrantless surveillance of virtually any international phone call and email of American citizens."
The bill also "authorize[s] the attorney general without court approval to order Internet service providers and other types of companies to give the NSA access to communications and equipment regarding information on its customers" without any proof or evidence of those communications being connected to terrorists.
This legislation also allows "warrantless physical searches of Americans' homes for extended periods without any evidence presented to a court that the homeowner is conspiring with or connected to terrorists."
Barr summarized this proposed legislation by saying, "Taken as a whole, the powers thus sought by the administration, and which have already been given imprimatur by the House, would do irreparable damage to the underpinnings of the Fourth Amendment.
"If signed into law, these measures would destroy the fundamental notion that American citizens enjoy a right to privacy in their homes, persons and businesses to be free from arbitrary government surveillance and searches. That may sound apocalyptic, but believe me, it is not. It is a fact."
It seems clear that "conservative" Republicans want to save us from liberal Democrats the same way that German fascists wanted to save their country from communists. In the end, both parties seek to dismantle freedom and constitutional government. They only differ in style; in substance they are twins. While fiercely opposing each other, both parties seek but one thing: unbridled power.
As things stand now, we do not need to fear al Qaeda, Iran, or North Korea near as much as we need to fear the abuse of power from within our own government. There is no question in my mind that we have the military power and strength to fight off any foreign enemy. The bigger question is, Do we have the moral power and strength to fight off those within our own country who would strip us of our freedoms? How we answer that question will determine our ultimate destiny.
© 2006 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved

They can read my e-mails, search my house, tap my phone.......just enforce the immigration laws!!

Originally Posted by gofer

They can read my e-mails, search my house, tap my phone.......just enforce the immigration laws!!

They wouldnt have time to read my e-mails, search my house, tap my phone if only they enforced our immigration laws!

Germany was faced with similar choices in 1932. WWII showed us the consequence of the choice they made then. East Germany later showed us the consequence had they made the other decision.

I know that it is terrible to even contemplate speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi but still the republicans can't or wont build the fence, Cornyn of Texas said the vote was simply symbolic. Our president can't or won't do anything about Iraq, Iran, or North Korea, so really how much better off are we with the congress we have.. Sometimes a drunk or drug addict has to bottom out to see how bad things have become. Maybe we should let the left win in November in order to get people fired up enough to elect a decent president in 08 and maybe even a better senate.
I don't think we can continue down the path we are traveling so maybe things need to get worse before they get better. Legislative gridlock might keep Bush from effectuating the North American Union or cramming his guest (who will never leave) worker program..
But then again maybe we'd just be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

Originally Posted by andyt

I know that it is terrible to even contemplate speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi but still the republicans can't or wont build the fence, Cornyn of Texas said the vote was simply symbolic. Our president can't or won't do anything about Iraq, Iran, or North Korea, so really how much better off are we with the congress we have.. Sometimes a drunk or drug addict has to bottom out to see how bad things have become. Maybe we should let the left win in November in order to get people fired up enough to elect a decent president in 08 and maybe even a better senate.
I don't think we can continue down the path we are traveling so maybe things need to get worse before they get better. Legislative gridlock might keep Bush from effectuating the North American Union or cramming his guest (who will never leave) worker program..
But then again maybe we'd just be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

sadly I really this is an accurate description of the state of things. Unless this demogouge it to death and do nothing approach changes. I think its time for a third party that can let some blood out of both heads of this 2 headed ( 2 faced ) beast.

andyt wrote:

I know that it is terrible to even contemplate speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi but still the republicans can't or wont build the fence, Cornyn of Texas said the vote was simply symbolic.

Please don't believe everything Sen. Cornyn says. He is a confirmed traitor that doesn't want the fence built. Moreover, I've heard all kinds of propoganda in regards to the 700 mile fence that will never get built, but the funny thing is, it's all coming from those that don't want to see the fence get built. Honestly, I don't know if the fence will get built or not, but I do know there are a lot of folks out there that don't want to see it built and those folks are doing a great job of convincing many of us that it isn't going to be built. Ask yourself, why is that? Could it be that they have design to undermine the process? Talk is cheap, the fence has been mandated by law and Secretary Chertoff has his marching orders.

Maybe we should let the left win in November in order to get people fired up enough to elect a decent president in 08 and maybe even a better senate.

If the Democrats win control of the United States House of Representatives in November, you'll have a full blown amnesty package signed, sealed, and delivered before the 2008 presidential election. I don't know about the rest of you, but the illegal immigration problem has become my number one issue and I'm smart enough to know that handing control of the House over to the Democrats is absolutely the worse thing that could happen for those of us that don't want to see an amnesty bill passed. As long as we have the House, we may be able to survive a Democrat controlled Senate, but losing the House would be our worse nightmare. I have no doubt in my mind that a Democrat controlled House equals a guaranteed amnesty during the 110th Congress. You can take that to the bank!

Andyt, if the democrats win, we not only lose out on immigration, we lose our whole country! We need a major miracle here!

I don't think that anyone in the world is more against amnesty or wants to close the borders more than I do. I had just watched Bush speak very "earnestly" yet say nothing about the North Korean nuclear test and was beyond disgusted when I made that post. The last thing I want is for the Democrats to take the house. I would like to see them take the senate to tie Bush's hands. Amnesty would be far worse than anything Iran or North Korea could do to us. I firmly believe that.

andyt wrote:

The last thing I want is for the Democrats to take the house.

Whew, glad to hear you say that, I was beginning to think you had drifted over to the darkside (no pun intended).