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    The SPP Is Dead?

    Let's hope this effort is dead, but somehow, I don't believe it just yet.


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    SPP 'dead,' says insider
    'Bush, Harper, Calderon have punted to line bureaucrats'

    Posted: November 28, 2007
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

    An insider who presented a paper at a recent North American Forum meeting in Mexico is concluding that the Security and Prosperity Partnership plan has failed.

    "The Security and Prosperity Partnership is dead," reporter John Ibbitson of Canada's Globe and Mail told WND in a telephone interview.

    Ibbitson, who was invited to present a paper at the meeting because he is a strong proponent of increased international trade, especially between Canada and the United States, said he believes public exposure has stalled SPP efforts.

    Others disagree with his conclusion, but they do agree that the public's awareness of the program and some of its features will trigger changes.

    "The opposition in all three countries has exposed the SPP North American integration agenda," wrote Stuart Trew, a researcher and writer for the Council of Canadians. "But it is not fair to say the SPP has died altogether."

    He said the SPP "as an over-arching project may have suffered from being exposed, but progress in North American integration will continue in many different areas of public policy as long as the trilateral working groups remain in place and the bureaucrats from the three nations keep meeting.â€
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    This could be bogus, a way to get the public off their tails so they can continue to pull their crap behind everyone's back. I don't trust them for a minute.
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    I agree, we should continue to investigate it, and read through the bills THROUGHLY that they try to push through congress.

    Nothing but a bunch of scumbag rats.
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    It will never be dead. This is just a ploy to cool things down so dont get too much of a warm and fuzzy...

    If you want it too go away forever we need to charge people and organizations with Treason and start locking people up in jail for many, many years.

    Actually, i am all for confiscating the wealth of these organizations as well all rich people to pay for the damage they have already done
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    Of course this is NOT dead. Why would anyone think that people who are hellbent on total domination and power would just say: "Oh, you don't want to be controlled and have no say in your country's future? Gee, we thought it was a good idea because you have always been silent.. Well, we'll just shelve that idea."

    C'mon folks ... they don't just quit ... they take a different route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

    Actually, i am all for confiscating the wealth of these organizations as well all rich people to pay for the damage they have already done
    And then we wouldn't be any different than they are. I don't think you really mean this ... but I agree with your zeal ... the problem is identifying exactly who is behind it and then prosecuting them for treason. I could get behind that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    It will never be dead. This is just a ploy to cool things down so dont get too much of a warm and fuzzy...

    If you want it too go away forever we need to charge people and organizations with Treason and start locking people up in jail for many, many years.

    Actually, i am all for confiscating the wealth of these organizations as well all rich people to pay for the damage they have already done
    I agree, there is no way this is dead. I'm sure it is temporarily shelved, but it certainly isn't dead. Now more than ever we have to watch this because we all know what sneaky bastards we have in DC.
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    An insider who presented a paper at a recent North American Forum meeting in Mexico is concluding that the Security and Prosperity Partnership plan has failed.
    Don't believe it! The supporters of the SPP want to make us stop paying attention to their plans. They have no intentions of putting a halt to anything. THEY HAVE TOO MUCH INVESTED IN THEIR PLANS TO MERGER ALL 3 COUNTRIES INTO ONE.
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    And then we wouldn't be any different than they are. I don't think you really mean this ... but I agree with your zeal ... the problem is identifying exactly who is behind it and then prosecuting them for treason. I could get behind that.
    The only way to hurt these people is in the pocket book... hence the only way to cripple them is to take away what they love "MONEY". The damage is in the multi - multi Billions... I nor you should have to pay for it
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    The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America
    Key Accomplishments since June 2005

    The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), launched by the leaders of Mexico, Canada and the United States in March 2005, aims to promote growth and economic opportunity, increase security, and improve the quality of life of our peoples. In June 2005, lead Ministers issued a joint report outlining steps to achieve these goals. Since then, highlights of accomplishments include:

    To enhance growth and competitiveness in a key sector, the North American Steel Trade Committee developed a new strategy aimed at reducing market distortions, facilitating trade and promoting overall competitiveness through innovation and market development.
    To adapt to changes in sourcing and production methods, the three countries have analyzed ways to liberalize requirements for obtaining NAFTA duty-free treatment. Changes to the rules of origin have been implemented successfully and technical teams are working on additional changes.
    To speed up response times when managing infectious disease outbreaks, save lives, and reduce health care costs, the United States and Canada signed an agreement to enable simultaneous exchange of information between virtual national laboratory networks (PulseNet). To make consumer goods safer, save lives, and prevent injuries, the United States and Mexico signed an agreement for advance notifications when consumer goods violate one country's safety standards or pose a danger to consumers. Canada and the United States signed a similar agreement in June. The United States and Canada signed an agreement, which is a milestone in pipeline regulatory cooperation, to allow increased compliance data sharing, staff exchanges and joint training. The sharing of best practices will lead to a more uniform regulatory approach for cross border pipelines.
    The United States and Canada reached a full Open-Skies aviation agreement, removing all economic restrictions on air service to, from, and beyond one another's territory by the airlines of both countries. The agreement will encourage new markets development, lower prices and greater competition.
    The United States and Mexico expanded air service in specific markets by increasing the number of designated passenger airlines per city-pair, and opening cooperative marketing arrangements (code-sharing) to airlines of either country and carriers of third countries.
    In order to increase navigational accuracy across the region, five Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS) stations were installed in Canada and Mexico in 2005.
    To promote prosperity by reducing the costs of trade, the United States and Canada decreased transit times at the Detroit/Windsor gateway, our largest border crossing point, by 50 percent.
    To support increased trade and expedite secure processing of cross-border trade and travel between Mexico and the United States, six FAST/Express lanes are operating at the US-Mexico border, a new lane in Nogales will open soon, and we are working on a project for a lane in Matamoros. Exclusive lines and schedules will be implemented at nine crossings.
    To allow more efficient examination of rail cargo for hazardous materials and illicit flows of goods, the United States and Mexico have installed gamma ray equipment at key border crossings.
    To speed cargo shipping, the three countries are developing uniform in-advance electronic exchange of cargo manifest data for maritime, railroad and motor carriers.
    To improve air quality and promote a more competitive automotive industry, Mexico implemented an official standard to reduce sulfur in fuels. This will increase supply of low-sulfur fuels in Mexico.
    To increase border security, Mexican and U.S. agencies are harmonizing risk assessment mechanisms, exchanging information, and establishing protocols to facilitate detection of fraud and smuggling.
    To strengthen the integrity and security of asylum and refugee status determination systems, the United States and Canada launched a pilot project to share information on refugee and asylum claimants based on a comparison of fingerprint records.
    To address border violence, United States and Mexico signed an Action Plan to Combat Border Violence and Improve Public Safety. Officials of the two countries in Nogales, AZ- Nogales, Sonora and Laredo, TX- Nuevo Laredo completed protocols on border security and public safety.
    Under the United States-Mexico Voluntary Repatriation Program, more than 35,000 persons, including 20,500 in 2005, were returned to their home in a secure, legal, and humanitarian way.
    To increase maritime security, the United States and Canada completed joint exercises on the St. Clair and Detroit Rivers in September and in February during Super Bowl XL. Officers, who were cross-designated on vessels of the other nation, could authorize pursuit of suspect vessels crossing jurisdictions.
    To advance preparedness to address a cyber incident affecting critical infrastructure, authorities from the United States and Canada completed a multi-national exercise, Cyberstorm, in February 2006.
    To enhance aviation security, the United States, Canada, and Mexico completed training on principles to protect aircraft from terrorism threats, on marksmanship skills, and on emergency procedures.
    To enhance port security, Canada and the United States concluded port facility visits at Oakland, CA and Vancouver, BC in October 2005 to facilitate the development of benchmark security standards. To ensure food safety while facilitating trade, a Food Safety Coordinating Task Force was formed and is developing a prioritized list of standards to compare for similarities, differences, and scientific bases for the differences. These efforts will facilitate the development of North American standards and, as appropriate, the removal of differences in standards. To enhance clarity and compatibility of energy regulation, Canadian, U.S. and Mexican regulators began regular meetings to exchange information on regulatory standards and energy market developments and to discuss bringing gas from Alaska to the North American market.
    To reduce marine air pollution, Canada and the United States have coordinated data collection, marine inventory development and air quality monitoring. The two countries are preparing to approach the International Maritime Organization to designate special areas for controlling sulfur emissions from marine vessels.
    Canada and the United States are developing Mutual Assistance Arrangements, which will enhance our preparedness for cross-border public health emergencies; Mexico has been invited to participate.

    This reads like a bad joke, figure you guys needed a good laugh......
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