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    Tijuana off-limits to U.S. Marines, USA TODAY

    Tijuana off-limits to U.S. Marines

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    By William M. Welch, USA TODAY

    LOS ANGELES — For tens of thousands of U.S. Marines in Southern California, new orders from the brass amount to: Baghdad si, Tijuana no.
    Citing a wave of violence and murder in Mexico, the commanding officer of the Marine expeditionary force based at Camp Pendleton has made the popular military "R&R" destinations of Tijuana and nearby beaches effectively off-limits for his Marines.

    The order by Lt. Gen. Samuel Helland restricts travel into Mexico by the 44,000 members of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, many of whom have multiple tours of duty in Iraq, Afghanistan and other combat zones under their belts — or are there now.

    The limits were first put in place for the Christmas holiday. Last week the commander extended the order indefinitely, said Mike Alvarez, public information officer for the Marine expeditionary force at Pendleton.

    "The situation in Mexico is now more dangerous than usual," he said. "The intent is just to look out for the Marines' safety and well being."

    Tijuana has been a popular attraction for Californians since Prohibition days when legal liquor was unavailable north of the border. In more recent times, its 18-year-old drinking age, cheap prices, gambling, beaches, tourist-oriented businesses and bars have attracted civilians and off-duty military from the San Diego area and elsewhere.

    San Diego, heavy with Navy and Marine presence, adjoins the Mexican border and Pendleton is in northern San Diego County, about 50 miles from the border.

    Fallen on hard times

    These days, sidewalk restaurants along Tijuana's main tourist area, Avenue Revolucion, often are empty. Tourists are buffeted by barkers and merchants desperate for Yankee dollars. Visitors may be approached with offers of drugs or prostitution as well.

    Tijuana, like Ciudad Juarez across the border from El Paso, has been particularly hard hit by the drug violence that has spread across Mexico. Tijuana saw its bloodiest year ever in 2008 with 843 killings compared to 337 the previous year.

    The violence in Tijuana grew toward the end of last year and continued this year with numerous execution-style slayings. Many of the bodies were found decapitated. The State Department has issued a travel alert for Americans going to Mexico.

    Officials from the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana regularly check with Mexican police and jails seeking to counsel Americans in trouble, and U.S. military Shore Patrol officers check daily. Alvarez said "there have been incidents from time to time" but did not know how many Marines have gotten into trouble.

    Helland's directive requires written approval from a lieutenant colonel or higher-ranking officer for travel across the border — whether for official business, to visit family or for leisure liberty, known in the military as "rest and relaxation," or "R&R."

    Marines venturing over the border also must complete anti-terrorism training, receive a military security briefing and "use the buddy system," that is travel with a companion 18 or older, according to Helland's order.

    Most of the affected Marines are at Pendleton but some are at other bases in Southern California and Arizona. And 13,500 members of the expeditionary force are currently deployed overseas, said Alvarez, a retired captain and helicopter pilot who served three tours in Iraq.

    As part of the order, Marines who cross the border on approved travel must carry contact information for the U.S. Consulate General and the Border Shore Patrol.

    The restrictions don't apply to the more than 75,000 active duty Navy sailors in the area, but they are required to inform their chains of command if they cross the border, said Lt. (j.g.) Lenaya Rotklein, public affairs officer for the Navy Region Southwest Command at San Diego.

    For Marines, the order is enforceable under the Uniform Code of Military Conduct. Violators could face a court-martial.

    "It's a lawful order," Alvarez says. "As Marines we obey lawful orders."

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    Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:12 pm
    Post subject: "U.S. Marines told to stay out of Mexico"
    Warning to Marines: Stay Out of Mexico!

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    USA TODAY is only a week late with this "NEWS".
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    U.S. Marines can go to Baghdad but they can't go to Tijuana ?
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    Citing a wave of violence and murder in Mexico, the commanding officer of the Marine expeditionary force based at Camp Pendleton has made the popular military "R&R" destinations of Tijuana and nearby beaches effectively off-limits for his Marines.
    What a sensible idea. I would have placed the entire country of Mexico off-limits. Obama better finish the fence and to keep out all of those criminals. It may not stop them all from coming over, but it will help to keep SOME in.
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