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11-21-2006, 01:38 AM #1
Study: Rudeness toward Foreign Visitors
Preface: I realize that we're not here (on this ALIPAC website) to please foreign visitors. But I post this article just to keep the website readers informed of an issue going before Congress. The study findings accuse US Customs and Immigration officers of being discourteous. I have been thru US customs a lot over the years and have never ever observed or heard of a rude INS or US Customs officer - as far as I'm concerned, they set the standard for professional conduct.
Originally Posted by The Discover America Partnership
The article:
http://www.poweroftravel.org/release-11-20-06.aspx
About the article's organization:
http://www.publicdiplomacywatch.com/200 ... hip_t.html
The Survey Results in PDF
http://www.poweroftravel.org/pdf/DAP_No ... esults.pdf
The Audio file describing the survey
http://www.poweroftravel.org/audio/DAP- ... 11amET.wav
I haven't finished listening to the audio file; the findings focus on perception of discourtesy on the part of the INS. I've gone thru customs a hell of a lot and never encountered anything less than total professionalism on the part of INS and US Customs. I think that those who filled out the surveys confused the airport screeners with the INS. Maybe it's their dislike for airport security. It could also be that rude airline employees may have set the stage for their negative perception. Specifically discourteous airline employees, who are foreign nationals (on US soil), contribute to the perception. Need proof? Go to Denver. The audio file says that visitors from visa-waiver countries (ie UK) were also unhappy.
What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?
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11-21-2006, 02:03 AM #2The study, conducted by independent polling firm RT Strategies and based upon a survey of more than 2,000 travelers worldwide, sought to gauge traveler perceptions of the U.S. visa and entry process, and how opinions of America differ among those that have and have not visited the U.S.
The Discover America Partnership was launched in September, 2006 by some of America’s foremost business leaders."The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**
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11-21-2006, 08:01 AM #3
Hi MW,
I think the poll failed to pinpoint (maybe intentionally, I dunno) where the discourtesy is coming from. Denver airport (and others like it) are probably prime examples....
May I submit?
Customs Officers - Professional and courteous
INS Officers - Professional and courteous
TSA Officers - Professional and courteous
Pre-Screeners - Foreign nationals who speak little English - Totally Rude.
Contracted Airline Employees behind the UA ticket counter in DEN - Discourteous FOREIGN nationals (not hispanic), they represent UA, but work for the contractor of the Airport Authority.
What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?
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11-21-2006, 09:48 PM #4
Comment on the survey
From the Neal Boortz website:
Originally Posted by Neal Boortz
What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?
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01-15-2007, 08:00 PM #5
INS Officers are not Professional and courteous
my experience has been very different. I look and I am Mediterranean from South Europe but I am also a US citizen (I have 2 passports US and European) and I have been harassed at the borders with Canada several times. Once, I was put in a room with 6 INS officers that interrogated me, informed me that I was in deep trouble, pushed me around, and even suggested I should choose which country I want to reside in and I should choose Europe and not the US, informing me that it is illegal to be a dual citizen, which is wrong. I was in that room for 2 hours. Since they could not get anything from me they let me go.
I travel a lot. Although I have never done anything illegal I fear going through the borders. When I land in the US I am afraid of the abuse I will receive because at best I am treated very rudely and I worst I have been abused.
I have never met an immigration so rude as the US immigrations (after 9/11). Some has to let them know that being rude won't get them more results. Frankly I fear that the US is becoming increasingly a police state.
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01-15-2007, 11:54 PM #6
Hi Johny2004, and welcome to Alipac. I'm not a moderator, but I still want to say "welcome" to a fellow citizen. So, welcome, fellow citizen!!!
Can't you just present your US passport only, upon re-entering the US?
You write "Europe." Is this in lieu of a particular European country (which, of course, you are under no obligation to reveal here)? Or, is this a European Union thing?
Based upon your experience and travels, could you reveal what life will become like here if the USA goes away and the North American Union (US and Mexico merge) becomes the government?
Thanks, Johny2004, for joining Alipac.
Coto
What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?
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01-16-2007, 12:01 AM #7
I have many foreign friends, none of them have been hassled.
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01-16-2007, 12:46 AM #8
I have found that some foreign visitors are rude. Once I was down the shore and two French Canadian men approached my sister and I and we ignored them and they through their drinks at us. This was on the street during the daytime. How rude!
We were in a diner one time and a crowd of French Canadians were across from my friends and I and they were talking about us in a French language. The waitress who spoke their language told us they were saying very bad things and she thought we deserved to know. We said thank you to the waitress and left. How rude!
Another time my sister was in a bar in Motreal with her husband. Her husband went to the bathroom and a woman asked her a question and she told her she did'nt speak french. Within minutes, the band was playing Yankee go Home! My sister and husband left. How rude!
I was going to a convenience store and was yelled at by a car of Islamic men on the 4th of July one year. Scared is beyond what I felt. An Indian Siek who worked their and I knew came to my rescue and chased them away.
Thank God. The men were rude and dangerous!
I've been hissed when I went to College by Hispanic women. Just because I'm blonde hair blue eye white woman I assume. I did'nt even have these women in my class. Did'nt know them and I did nothing to deserve this for happening. How rude and racist!
The moral of my story is, rude people are all around the world and not justs in America. Their are very nice people too. Unfortunately, we don't have control of when rude people and bad things confront us. Rudeness comes in all nationalities.
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01-16-2007, 09:18 AM #9
CCUSA, I have to agree there. I think most of us have encountered many rude foreign visitors. I think that they watch too much TV and think that it is a free for all here. In my opinion, foreign women are much worse than the men, but the men are much worse when it comes to business matters, because they do not want to speak to the women, and will not try to hide their prejudice. I had the misfortune of dealing with a couple of young Arab men at work who thought it was funny to yell at me, stick their fingers in my face and say tell me how they would not deal with me because I was a woman, then they would laugh. Honestly, I was getting a little nervous and almost called the police. They demanded to speak to my boss, even though I was more than capable of helping them, other than the fact that I was a woman. To their dismay, my boss was also a woman. They did not seem too happy about it, but they were actually cordial since they needed our services. I would like to think those men drove into the ditch on the way home. I am sure that we have all encountered the foreigner who can speak English quite well one minute and does not know a word of English the next. People take advantage of our country and our hospitality and I think most of us are tired of it.I have had very good experiences in Europe but thought that Mexicans were very phony in that they act like they are going out of their way for us but would not think twice of ripping us off financially. It is a big game for them. Mexicans are lucky that we don't treat them the same way when they are here.
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01-16-2007, 09:26 AM #10
Another study to spend our $$.
I'm just as fed up with "America bashing" as I am with accusing "baby boomers" for S.S. going bust.Do not vote for Party this year, vote for America and American workers!
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