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    Survey: 70 percent of foreign-born N.J. adults lack health c

    Survey: 70 percent of foreign-born N.J. adults lack health coverage
    Published: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 9:00 AM
    By Alice Speri
    The Star-Ledger

    NORTH BERGEN — When her teenage son had a skateboarding accident in March, Yolanda Quintero was worried about more than his safety.

    Quintero and her husband, who are naturalized U.S. citizens from Colombia, don’t have health insurance. Neither do their children — 15-year-old David and 10-year-old Stephanie, who has Down syndrome.

    David recovered from his skateboarding fall after a night at Palisades Medical Center, near the family’s home in North Bergen. But the bill came to $1,373.25.

    "I haven’t paid it yet," said Quintero, 54, showing a final notice she recently received. "I can’t pay it."


    Yolanda Quintero at her house in North Bergen. Her family recently lost its insurance and her daughter Stephanie is no longer getting therapy. Her son recently got into a skateboarding accident and was taken to the ER. Now the family is getting billed for $1,000, which it can't afford.

    The Quintero family is among the 34 percent of immigrant children and 70 percent of foreign-born adults living in New Jersey who lack health coverage, according to a statewide study released this summer. The survey — conducted in 2009 by the Rutgers Center for State Health Policy — polled 2,500 households to learn about the health care status of the state’s 1.7 million immigrants.

    The study found immigrants — including legal permanent residents and naturalized citizens — are disproportionately uninsured compared to American-born residents. Hispanics and immigrants in the urban, northeastern part of the state rank as the least insured.

    "There is a high percentage of people, even with health issues, who don’t get to see a doctor," said Joel Cantor, a Rutgers professor and co-author of the report. "Even in 2014, when national health care reform will set in, there is no guarantee immigrant families will be reached. We have to make adequate investments in primary care and reach out to them."

    The survey did not ask respondents to specify their immigration status, though researchers expect most illegal immigrants would have declined to respond. An estimated 550,000 people reside in New Jersey illegally. While doctors do not ask patients their immigration status, many undocumented residents avoid getting care out of fear of deportation, Cantor said.

    "There is certainly a fear that it could happen," Cantor said. "Undocumented immigrants delay going into the care system as long as possible, so that when they do, things are usually really bad."

    Cantor also pointed to some of the positive findings in the survey, including that immigrants are comparatively healthy. They are less likely to report chronic conditions such as diabetes and rely less on the emergency room than their American-born counterparts. But language difficulties and a confusion with the health care system are especially hard on the foreign-born.

    "Even when children and adults are eligible, they are less likely to sign up for services," Cantor said.

    Low-income families are eligible for NJ FamilyCare, a federal and state funded health insurance program created to make sure all poor children get health care.

    But the Rutgers study found many immigrants are unfamiliar with health care programs and do not use the services, even when they are eligible.

    Some immigrants said they were confused by the complex bureaucracy and changing eligibility standards of health care programs.

    "The system is so complicated, people don’t understand. We are so frustrated," said Quintero. "People come to me and ask me what to do, and all I can tell them is go apply for charity care."

    Quintero was not always uninsured. She said she lost her state-subsidized NJ FamilyCare health coverage last February, after New Jersey reduced the eligibility standards. She said she makes $30 a month over the new limit to qualify for the coverage. Quintero works part-time at a Newark center for parents of special-needs children, but she says she doesn’t get employee insurance and doesn’t make enough to buy a private policy.

    Many New Jersey immigrants said not having insurance means they don’t get to see a doctor or buy medicine at all.

    Lorenza Florez, a North Bergen resident originally from Peru, said she is in the United States legally but does not have a job. She has never had health insurance. When her 9-year-old daughter, who is autistic, gets sick she may or may not get medicine, Florez said.

    "It depends. When I can pay for her medicines, I do," said Florez. "But when I can’t, I just don’t give her any."

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    Thats OK. As soon as Obamacare goes into full effect and the seniors are denied treatment from medicare, there will be plenty of money to take care of these people.
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    They don't lack anything. They use the emergency rooms.

    Another Obama forced SOB story,
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    The Quintero family is among the 34 percent of immigrant children and 70 percent of foreign-born adults living in New Jersey who lack health coverage, according to a statewide study released this summer. The survey — conducted in 2009 by the Rutgers Center for State Health Policy — polled 2,500 households to learn about the health care status of the state’s 1.7 million immigrants.
    This should show beyond any doubt that Roy Beck is right about new immigration numbers which must be drastically reduced. I support a moratorium on new legal immigration for at least 10 years and then the total number including work and visas should be limited to the 1970's replacement levels.
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    More evidence to suggest the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (Hart-Celler Act) has done nothing more than import poverty from the third-world. Sorry, but importing more poverty, even if done "legally," is not a benefit to this country.

    Just to remind everyone, Kennedy stood on the floor of the Senate and uttered the following words in support of Hart-Celler Act:

    "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same.... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia.... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.... It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."

    "The ethnic mix of this country will not be upset?" Are not white Americans slated to become the minority in this country in the very near future? We read these reports daily.

    I could go on, but the fact of the matter is everything Kennedy claimed would not happen, has in fact happened, and continues to happen!

    Kennedy was either incredibly stupid (doesn’t say much for that Harvard education) or his was flat out lying to the American people with his support of this bill.

    Whichever, the damage has been done. Who needs enemies with traitors like Kennedy in power.
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    The survey did not ask respondents to specify their immigration status, though researchers expect most illegal immigrants would have declined to respond. An estimated 550,000 people reside in New Jersey illegally. While doctors do not ask patients their immigration status, many undocumented residents avoid getting care out of fear of deportation, Cantor said.
    So NJ has 1.7 million immigrants and 550,000 illegal aliens, so that's a robust 2,250,000 people added to the state's population through immigration, legal and illegal, 70% of whom don't have enough work, income or other means to even pay $1,000 o $1,400 hospital bills.

    And this is supposed to be "Good For America"??!!

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    New Jersey 2010 US Census Population:

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/34000.html

    8,791,000 total population in New Jersey.

    2,250,000 foreign born and illegal alien population in New Jersey, 70% of whom don't earn enough to pay for medicine for their children or even a small hospital bill of $1,000 to $1,400 a pop.

    What does this tell us? That the natural born population of New Jersey would only be 6.5 million people, not almost 9 million.

    What would that do for social services, education, welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, Social Securiy, wages, unemployment, low-income housing, housing costs, rental costs, crime, health care costs, insurance costs, traffic congestion, mortgage defaults, and so much more?

    Well, government spending on social services, education, welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, unemployment, low-income housing, crime, health care, insurance costs, traffic congestion and mortgage defaults would be way down; consumer expenses for housing and rental costs would be much less and stable; and wages and salaries would be way up which means Social Security would be rolling in the dough with more revenue from higher wages and fewer claims.
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    And why must they always include a picture of the "immigrant," sitting there with that smug grin on their face, as they look to fleece more of our tax dollars. For goodness sakes! When is enough enough?

    Good work Judy! Those numbers are staggering and should be a wake-up call for all! No wonder NJ is on the verge of insolvency!
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    My husband needed surgery recently. We have insurance, but we had to meet the deductable.

    We pay 15,000 dollars for insurance every year to cover our family (2 adults and 3 kids) and we still had to pay $1500 for the surgery.
    It has effected our budget.

    When others don't pay guess who gets stuck with the bill!

    What happens when everyone cries poverty and gets a free ride.
    They can pay for it. Come up with a payment plan. Even if it takes 10 years! Why do the responsible Americans get stuck with raised premiums!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCUSA
    My husband needed surgery recently. We have insurance, but we had to meet the deductable.

    We pay 15,000 dollars for insurance every year to cover our family (2 adults and 3 kids) and we still had to pay $1500 for the surgery.
    It has effected our budget.

    When others don't pay guess who gets stuck with the bill!

    What happens when everyone cries poverty and gets a free ride.
    They can pay for it. Come up with a payment plan. Even if it takes 10 years! Why do the responsible Americans get stuck with raised premiums!
    Exactly what I was thinking...why doesn't some one do a story on how many natural born A mericans and their families are with out health insurance?

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