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    ACLU protests use of crime-fighting scanner

    ACLU protests use of crime-fighting scanner
    Sunday, September 9, 2007


    PHOENIX (AP) - Officer David Callister was about to drive past the 1991 Nissan sedan when an alert sounded inside his cruiser and an image of a license plate flashed on his laptop. It was a signal that the run-of-the-mill clunker was stolen.

    The alert came from a $20,000 device that uses small infrared cameras mounted on the police car to automatically scan license plates and match the numbers against databases of stolen vehicles and people wanted for crimes.

    "That car wasn't even on my radar screen," said Callister. The Arizona Department of Public Safety officer was focused on other vehicles as he searched for stolen cars in an apartment complex parking lot. "The plate reader would get you stuff you wouldn't normally be thinking about."

    An estimated 400 of the nation's 18,000 police agencies own at least one license plate scanner, and police officials expect the readers to become more common in the coming years as the price of the devices falls.

    The readers let officers scan about 75 times more plates during an eight-hour shift than the traditional method: writing down numbers and running them past a dispatcher.

    Even though scanner-equipped cars represent a small part of a given agency's fleet, the devices are helping police recover stolen cars, find people wanted on criminal warrants and respond to urgent situations, such as robbers on the run.

    For civil libertarians, however, the scanners raise the troubling question about whether the government will expand its use of the technology to track people's private lives.

    "That's a lesson in history: Whenever the government collects data, sooner or later they will misuse it," said Jeff Gamso, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio.

    But as police were quick to point out, anyone can jot down license plate numbers on a street corner, and that's what the scanners do, only more efficiently.

    "What privacy?" asked Patrick Camden, a spokesman for the Chicago Police Department, which uses a small number of the scanners. "You're driving on a public way. There is no privacy about driving a car on a public way."

    In central and southern Arizona, a dozen Department of Public Safety vehicles with scanners are trying to catch stolen cars headed to Mexico and disrupt smugglers using ripped-off vehicles to move drugs and illegal immigrants.

    The California Highway Patrol is trying to combat the state's high auto theft rate by scattering its 16 vehicles with scanners on urban freeways and rural highways and putting a handful of stationary readers on the ground.

    In Long Beach, Calif., where seven vehicles with scanners were used to catch car thieves, officials were testing a plan to link a database of parking ticket scofflaws to the scanners.

    No studies have documented the effectiveness of scanners on a large scale. But some police agencies credit the devices with raising their vehicle recovery and arrest numbers.

    The appeal of the scanners is simple: The more plate numbers that are run, the better the chances of spotting stolen cars and wanted criminals. And much of the work is done automatically, allowing officers to focus more on the road.

    After the two to four cameras mounted on the light bars or bumpers of cars spot a license plate, the numbers are fed to a computer processor in the trunk where the information is matched against databases.

    A burst of license plate images appear on the laptop when an officer is driving freeways and busy streets, beeping each time a car is scanned. Then, the officer must verify, through a call to a dispatcher, that the numbers captured by the device match the information in the database.

    The prospect of catching more suspected felons prompted police in Springdale, Ohio, to get a card reader for one of their 13 cruisers.

    A man wanted on a burglary warrant was recently arrested in the Cincinnati suburb after he happened to drive past a police officer, who wasn't on the lookout for the suspect but learned of him through the scanner, said Lt. Tom Wells, a supervisor for the department.

    "It's like finding a needle in a haystack," he added.

    The scanners can sometimes help police direct urgent searches.

    Earlier this year, as authorities in southern Arizona sought a suspicious car on Interstate 10, an officer who entered information about the vehicle into his scanner discovered the suspected drug smugglers had passed him 20 minutes earlier. With an estimate of the speed and location of the vehicle, officers located it, made arrests and seized a large amount of methamphetamine and $80,000 in cash.

    The readers aren't without limitations.

    Unlike anti-theft devices such as LoJack, the card readers can't do real-time tracking of a car that's outside the view of the cameras. The scanners capture only what they see around them _ and sometimes they miss nearby plates or take pictures of political signs in front yards or company names on the sides of 18-wheelers.

    During his swing through the Phoenix apartment complex, Callister spotted two stolen four-door pickups without the help of his scanner, which didn't take pictures of the plates on the two suspected immigrant-smuggling vehicles _ in one case probably because the chrome ball on one truck's trailer hitch obscured the plate.

    Callister's suspicion was raised by things the scanner doesn't check: damage to the lock of one truck and the fact that the other was sitting in a position that an owner wouldn't likely park in. While he was shuttling between the two trucks, his scanner picked up on the beat-up sedan.

    Callister called in tow trucks to haul away the three stolen vehicles.

    The most frequently cited potential drawback comes from privacy advocates, some of whom worry authorities will use the readers to track the movements of law-abiding people, a risk they said will grow as the devices drop in price and proliferate.

    People may drive to abortion clinics, substance-abuse counseling meetings, race tracks or other lawful gatherings but might prefer to keep that private, the advocates said.

    "I shouldn't have to take extra precautions to prevent the government from seeing what I am doing every Thursday night," said Lee Tien, an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a group concerned about privacy rights in the digital age.

    Police and scanner makers said they didn't intend to misuse the technology.

    The day when the readers are as common as laptops in cruisers is a long way off, said Mark Windover, president of scanner maker Remington ELSAG of Madison, N.C., but the devices are clearly gaining acceptance in law enforcement circles. "Every police agency we talk to wants it," he said.

    Bryan Shockley, a spokesman for PIPS Technology, a manufacturer based in Knoxville, Tenn., defended his company's scanners, saying, "Our systems are not designed to track innocent individuals. Our system is designed to identify people that have broken the law."

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    WOW, first I have heard of this!! Sorry I must think on the subject for a while before I can make a sensible judgement, I'm just a little stunned
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    Why not an illegal alien scanner? Pan the scanner towards a crowd and illegal aliens turn green on the police monitor.

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    WOW....at first thought....It sounds awesome.....but it will find to many illegals stolen cars and too many illegals unregistered cars so therefore it is racial profilling and we can't use it......because they have a right to have a stolen car

    But...then....only those you have something to fear, should have fear...
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    Why would anybody want to track a "law-abiding" person???? These people are so paranoid! There are more than enough law breakers to look for......there is no reason to mess with law-abiding people. Who cares if Joe Blow is on his way to "drug consueling"!!!? What about kidnappers?? Many time they know the license number of the car....this would be a great help.

    I'm beginning the to think the aclu types are criminals, since they seem to be against everything that helps nab them!!!!

    There are already precedents that say tags aren't private. There was a ruling against an illegal alien who tried to use that in his defense, because the officer ran his tag number....it was not legit...he was found out. The judge ruled tags are PUBLIC, since everyone can see them. Officers already can run tag numbers and this is simply much more efficient at catching criminals.

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    It is beginning to look like the ACLU opposes any effort to preserve law and order. It is time to set priorities. We might well have to sacrifice a little privacy and perhaps some other minor civil rights to secure and restore order to our country.

    The nation as a whole should decide these priorities; not the ACLU and not a judge with a life appointment who is out of touch with the common man.

    The ACLU has become a bully. It is using its considerable resources to blackmail communities into submission. I cite the Hazelton case where the ACLU has submitted a claim for 2.4 million dollars in attorney's fees. They are sending a message to other local governments that we will bankrupt your community if you attempt to exercise your right to petition your government for redress. They must be stopped.

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    "People may drive to abortion clinics, substance-abuse counseling meetings, race tracks or other lawful gatherings but might prefer to keep that private, the advocates said."

    What?????? Illegals going to ABORTION CLINICS? That's so laughable, I'm rolling on the floor!

    Substance abuse counseling? Nah. They like their "substances" too much.

    Race tracks? Spending their welfare dollars?

    That scanner sounds like a superb tool for the police.

    GO POLICE!!!!!!!!!

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