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    Those scary illegal immigrant opponents

    Sunday, August 26, 2007
    Those scary illegal immigrant opponents

    It's a common tactic. When some liberals don't like the arguments conservatives make, they label those arguments "hate speech" to silence them.

    And so it goes with illegal immigration.

    I thought this article on the "illegal immigration backlash" by Dave Montgomery of McClatchy newspapers was particularly priceless (it ran in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel today).

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/19043.html


    The main point of the article seems to be how scary the illegal immigrant opponents have gotten. So let's get this straight: A truly scary illegal immigrant in Newark allegedly executes college students, and the MSM cite the Newark incident in a story about how scary the illegal immigrant opponents are because they are upset by the scary illegal immigrant. Unbelievable. Only liberals could get away with this stuff.

    The only problem is, despite a valiant attempt to toss the KKK and Newt Gingrich into the same story, the writer cites NO examples to back up the premise that illegal immigrant opponents as a group are scary, racist, hatemongering nativists. The best they can come up with is that so-called "nativist extremist" groups have formed (love to know how they define that one) and that senators received venomous emails (you should see George W. Bush's mail. People write venomous emails about lots of things). They also cite local ordinances to restrict illegal immigration, without explaining why they are needed and born out of legitimate concerns. I fail to see how this adds up to a "dark side" that is causing increased "discrimination against Hispanics" and a "xenophobia unseen" for a century. How do they define discrimination? What are the examples of it? The writer never says but cites this contention as fact.

    The story reduces the illegal immigrant crime issue to an "argument":


    The case revitalized an argument made during the congressional debate that the flow of illegal immigrants, though predominated by job-seekers lured by the prospect of higher wages and better conditions, includes a menacing criminal element.

    So illegal immigrant opponents are nativist hate-filled, discriminating xenophobes (the clear point of the article when it's read in totality), but it's an "argument made during the congressional debate" that some illegal immigrants are menacing criminals. Why not just look up the known numbers, Mr. Montgomery? (of course, in many states, like ours, no one really knows how many illegal immigrant criminals there are). Or why not just mention Newark again? Or the man who allegedly shot the cop in Kenosha?

    The best the writer comes up with to prove the premise of the story is that the rhetoric has gotten very heated, generating "fears" of a dark side. Talk shows, he quotes one pro illegal immigrant activist, are spewing "hate rhetoric". Of course, no examples are given.

    It reminds me of the MSM rhetoric after 9/11 that anti Muslim conservative hatemongerers were going to erupt in violence all over the land. Very few examples of it ever did occur. As far as I can tell, the only violent people in the illegal immigrant debate are the illegal immigrant criminals like the one in Newark.

    Taken together, the main evidence seems to be that illegal immigrant opponents are "inflamed" and angry and passionate. In other words, that their rhetoric is too passionate.

    Well, illegal immigrant proponents are inflamed, angry and passionate (read the Journal Sentinel editorial page, go to a march), but that's never presented as scary or a negative by the MSM.

    Posted by Jessica McBride at 12:09 PM

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    Jessica McBride ...Great smackdown on the libtard writer and press!!!
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    Sweet! Thank you Jessica!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    Jessica McBride ...Great smackdown on the libtard writer and press!!!
    Parents and family members of a mentally retarded person find the word "tard" and all the variations really offensive. Would you please refrain from saying that stuff? There are so many better descriptives that you could use. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned
    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    Jessica McBride ...Great smackdown on the libtard writer and press!!!
    Parents and family members of a mentally retarded person find the word "tard" and all the variations really offensive. Would you please refrain from saying that stuff? There are so many better descriptives that you could use. Thanks.
    No offense intended. Would lib-idiot be all right with you?
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    1. libtard
    (Lib-Tard) 1) Combination of the words Liberal and retard (see also: Libterd, libturd, libnerd, libsurd, libdiot, libored) 2) The result when a tree hugger successfully mates with a tree and the offspring is born with an extra chromosome. 3) Any helpless society that must always be liberated by the blood and sweat of others yet are too arrogant and stupid to realize that they owe their entire existance to others.(see also: French-tard, French-Tarded, Retarded-Frenchmen).

    libtard
    1) Hillary clinton and her husband, you know what's his face. You know that libtard that got impeached for going down on that fat chick in the beret that looked like Rosie Odonnel.
    2) Look at that tall mongoloid with the vote Kerry T-shirt. Must be one of them libtards.
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    2. libtard

    N. Combination of liberal and retard
    Used derogatorily by conservatives/Republicans for liberals/Democrats
    Pl. Libtards

    "Libterd", related and created using possibly this word as a foundation, or possibly from a different source as a combination of Liberal and Terd, without the prior knowledge of Libtard

    Yea, Libtard, I guess you want free health-care too?!


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    liberal retard. One of liberal politcal persuasion who wastes their entire lives bitching about president Bush/conservatives/Christ ianity, or hunting for an opportunity to do so. Often very loud, uninformed, and annoying. Makes the Democratic Party look bad. Usually found on college campuses.

    The opposite of conservatard.

    Dude, my professor is such a libtard. I mean, what does calculus have to do with the president?
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