Thread: TN Mother's Day Murderer Caught In Mount Airy NC

Alleged killer’s extradition unlikely before June
By Robert Moore, Tribune Staff Writer

Unless Carmelo "Carmen" Vences moves up the court docket, he won’t return to Hamblen County to face a first-degree murder charge until June.

Vences, a 43-year-old Mexican national, allegedly shot his wife and the mother of his five children, Adelina Delasancha, 40 at a baptism party on Mother’s Day, according to Detective Sgt. Frank Lane with the Hamblen County Sheriff’s Department.

Vences’ initial appearance in Forsyth County (N.C.) Superior Court is currently scheduled for June 5, a court spokeswoman said this morning. It remains unclear whether the extradition hearing will occur at that time.

Extradition hearings do not involve guilt or innocence, only if the person who appears in court is the same individual who has been charged in another jurisdiction.

Vences remains incarcerated without bond at the Forsyth County Detention Center in Winston-Salem, N.C.

Lane, the lead investigator in the case, said this morning that he has approximately 10 eyewitnesses that identified Vences as the man who shot Delasancha to death at the party in a rented building on Spencer Hale Road.

Delasancha was talking to another man prior to the shooting. Vences allegedly pistol-whipped the man, and then pushed his wife to the floor and shot her between four and six times.

Lane says nothing in his investigation suggests that Delasancha and the man were anything more than casual friends.

Vences reportedly was staying with family members in Mt. Airy, N.C., near the Virginia border, when he was taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals Service on May 15, one day after Lane got a tip about the suspect’s location.

"It took a lot of hours with us the TBI and the U.S. Marshals to track him down," Lane said.

The marshals did not locate the alleged murder weapon, according to Lane.

Vences, who Lane says allegedly entered the United States illegally in 2001 or 2002, worked for a fire-protection manufacturing firm in Powell.

The detective says Vences doesn’t have a criminal history in Hamblen County, and he hasn’t yet received comprehensive report from federal law enforcement officials.

Local law enforcement officials have reported that it’s sometimes difficult to convince members of the Hamblen County Hispanic community to cooperate in a criminal investigation.

Lane says he encountered no such difficulty in this case.

"It was just cold," Lane said.

Vences and Delasancha have three adult children and two minor children. Lane says the oldest child, a 25-year-old man, is taking care of the minor children.

http://www.myfox8.com/news/wghp-fugitiv ... 5808.story

Local law enforcement officials have reported that it’s sometimes difficult to convince members of the Hamblen County Hispanic community to cooperate in a criminal investigation.

Martha Stewart went to jail for obstruction in a civil case, and yet illegals get away with not cooperating in criminal cases? And, they are not charged and deported for obstruction?

We are so stupid it is sickening.

I am getting real tired of hearing the word , comprehensive .

Gotta believe Sheriff Andy Taylor would have taken care of the illegal aliens. You would think Barney might even be able to catch a few.

Mount Airy is always associated with Mayberry...
http://www.radoknews.com/andy-griffith-show-part-3.html

Another article on the same murder by an ILLEGAL with some different details and a few comments mostly anti- ILLEGAL except one ELITIST citing the "The fourteenth amendment (the one about due process) states plainly "any person" and makes no delineation between categories of people." clearly abuse of the 14th admendment:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/may/1 ... /#comments

Man charged in slaying of wife on Mother's Day caught in N.C.
By Matt Lakin (Contact), Morgan Simmons (Contact)
Saturday, May 16, 2009

The man accused of gunning down his wife in front of their children on Mother's Day could return to Hamblen County over the weekend to face a murder charge, authorities said.

The U.S. Marshals Service arrested Carmen Vences, 41, on Friday afternoon in Mount Airy, N.C., said Chief Deputy Wayne Mize of the Hamblen County Sheriff's Department. Vences remained in the Forsyth County, N.C., jail Friday night and will face a first-degree murder charge upon return to Tennessee, Mize said.

"We sent two detectives over there (Friday) afternoon," the chief deputy said. "At the time we sent them, we had no idea whether he would waive extradition or not. That's something they'll learn over there."

Authorities said Vences, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who's lived in Hamblen County for the past three or four years, shot Adelina Delasancha, the 40-year-old mother of his five children, in what appeared to be a fit of jealous rage Sunday.

"They'd been having problems and were separated," Mize said.

The shooting happened around 1:45 a.m. during a party at a rented business at 111 Spencer Hale Road outside the Morristown city limits after Vences got into a fight with another man, authorities said. Deputies found alcohol at the scene.

"It was more or less a coming-of-age party," Mize said. "As to whether he (Vences) was intoxicated, we have no way of knowing. It's been too long to test him. Toxicology (tests) on the wife will take some time to come back."

Authorities said Vences broke free as some men tried to escort him out and ran back to Delasancha with a pistol in hand. He stepped on top of her as she begged for her life, then shot her repeatedly in the head, authorities said.

Vences fled the party, and investigators had feared he might have returned to Mexico.

Delasancha's three youngest children, including a 4-year-old, attended the party and saw their mother shot. They're in the care of relatives, Mize said.

If Vences waives extradition to Tennessee, he could be brought back in a matter of days, Mize said. An extradition battle could take weeks.

Matt Lakin may be reached at 865-342-6306. Morgan Simmons may be reached at 865-342-6321.

© 2009, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

17 Comments
Posted by JustSouthern on May 16, 2009 at 12:43 a.m.

Unless we secure our borders, this type of creep will continue to be sent here,(or chased here), from that worthless piece of dirt called Mexico. Trash is all he is and we need to ready the death chamber once again.
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Posted by tatersalad on May 16, 2009 at 12:55 a.m.

If Vences waives extradition... That's fine, just hang him over there.
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Posted by disposable_dumpty_2 on May 16, 2009 at 2:33 a.m.

in response to tatersalad

"An extradition battle could take weeks"

Why?????????!
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Posted by mississue on May 16, 2009 at 7:50 a.m.

What difference does it make that it could take weeks to bring him back? It takes YEARS to try murderers anyway. One jail is as good as another I suppose.
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Posted by jackknife007 on May 16, 2009 at 10:14 a.m.

bend over taxpayers cost of prosecution, prison,state must pay for upkeep of his five children.over time for police.state appointed attorneys.judge jury. parole;
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Posted by papabob on May 16, 2009 at 10:56 a.m.

Do I sense a note of frustration in todays comments. YES??
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Posted by dazedandconfused on May 16, 2009 at 11:10 a.m.

I will supply the rope and the stage if they want to hang this piece of trash-it would be my pleasure. Send these illegals back-we need to take our country back before they take over with anchor babies etc...-I am tired of reading about illegals commtting crimes in our country and state-and drawing all sorts of govt assistance on my tax dollar-remember these are law breakers-they broke the law coming over illegally and have no respect for our laws or way of life.-we have enough home grown criminals and don't need to have more crime exported from that piece of dirt called "Mexico".
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Posted by lemmy999 on May 16, 2009 at 11:21 a.m.

I hope none of you ever get elected to serve in our government because the first thing you would do is try to destroy the constitution and the bill of rights and just leave the 2nd amendment.
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Posted by playinenthebanned on May 16, 2009 at 12:29 p.m.

Name the business they were partying at. You keep hiding this fact.
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Posted by selfopiate on May 16, 2009 at 12:48 p.m.

I am learning spanish. I hope it becomes a more common language.
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Posted by papabob on May 16, 2009 at 1:36 p.m.

in response to dazedandconfused

I would suppose that the Inca,Mayan, Aztec and Native Americans feel the same way about the decendants of the Europeans who slaughtered their ancestors,enslaved them, stole their lands and ruined their cultures and way of life!!

This problem is just another segment in the great circle of man's inhumanity towards man.

Now for a tangent off of the circle: Is anyone the least bit curious as to where the illegal obtained a gun? I am!!!
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Posted by disposable_dumpty_2 on May 16, 2009 at 2:10 p.m.

in response to papabob

"I would suppose that the Inca,Mayan, Aztec and Native Americans feel the same way about the decendants of the Europeans who slaughtered their ancestors,enslaved them, stole their lands and ruined their cultures and way of life!!"

Yep, and unlike us, the Incan, Mayan, and Aztec peoples resisted their conquest--they fought back!!

Hundreds of years from now, the white experience on this planet will probably be summarized historically as "The White Question."

The Question being, why did the race that invented modern civilization surrender itself and that civilization so easily?
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Posted by shoes on May 16, 2009 at 4:02 p.m.

in response to lemmy999

The constitution doesn't guarantee any rights to non-citizens. Which part of "illegal" do you not understand?
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Posted by papabob on May 16, 2009 at 4:22 p.m.

in response to shoes

You really need some education as to what the Constitution says.

The fourteenth amendment (the one about due process) states plainly "any person" and makes no delineation between categories of people.

The Supreme court has upheld this premise many times.

It (The conservative one now seated) has also ruled that Guantanamo detainees have the right to Habeaus Corpus.They are considered and labeled as "ILLEGAL combatants".

Now what else about the Constitution do you not understand?

Cornell University Law School has an excellent web site on which you can read the document at your leisure along with annotations.

I don't like the idea of illegals having rights either,but lets not abolish the Constitution just because some part of it wasn't written for our express desires.
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Posted by Justice2 on May 16, 2009 at 6:41 p.m.

in response to papabob

It doesn't need to be abolished just amended to say that natural born or naturalized citizens are what it pertains to. May not be a popular opinion, but it's mine.
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Posted by MackBL on May 18, 2009 at 9:12 p.m.

The ILLEGAL parents know what they are doing; Abuse of the 14th Amendment to create an Anchor Baby and more ILLEGALS for U.S.A. Citizens to furnish benefits! The babies serve as an "anchor" to pull a large number of extended family members into the country to receive additional benefits further exhausting our treasury to the final outcome of the U.S.A. becoming just another Third World Country!
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Posted by MackBL on May 18, 2009 at 9:15 p.m.

Our FAMILIES are at the mercy of ILLEGALS and their Anchors being murdered, raped, infected with disease, or robbed. We can see the results of the ILLEGAL invasion in our courts every day! But NOT to worry the Chamber of Commerce will get their cheap labor increasing their privatized PROFITS while socializing the benefits for their ILLEGALS on the back of U. S. Citizens, thanks to our past and current Presidents, the Congressional Leadership(?), and local elected and appointed officials!
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