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    Trump’s ‘National Emergency’ Gambit May Be The Easiest End To The Shutdown

    01/10/2019 06:08 pm ET
    Trump’s ‘National Emergency’ Gambit May Be The Easiest End To The Shutdown

    The most likely action for Congress is inaction.

    By Matt Fuller
    01/10/2019 06:08 pm ET

    WASHINGTON ― The partial government shutdown is about to stretch past its third week. Republicans and Democrats have basically stopped negotiating. Yet, members and aides on Capitol Hill believe a solution is imminent.

    It’s not that there’s going to be a legislative breakthrough. It’s more that everyone now recognizes there is no deal to be made ― not when President Donald Trump won’t come down from his $5.7 billion figure for border wall construction, conservatives oppose a larger immigration deal, and Democrats don’t trust and won’t accept any offer but full capitulation.

    Instead, the solution to the impasse seems to be Trump declaring a national emergency at the border, using a dubious authority to reprogram military construction money for the wall, and then Congress passing clean funding legislation ― without wall money ― while Trump’s executive maneuver gets tied up in court.

    Trump has moved from toying with the idea of a national emergency declaration to all but promising it. He said Thursday that, if negotiations don’t work out, “probably I will do it. I would almost say definitely.”

    Three senior GOP aides said Thursday that they expect Trump to declare a national emergency as a way of getting out of the shutdown, though all said they hadn’t heard anything specific about timing. And while there’s been a scramble among some lawmakers to put together a deal involving the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals immigration program in exchange for wall funding, that offer seems to be dead on arrival.

    President Donald Trump declaring a national emergency to build a border wall may be the easiest way to end the partial government shutdown.

    According to Politico, the chief architect of a DACA deal, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), has all but given up. “I think we’re stuck. I just don’t see a pathway forward. I don’t see a way forward,” Graham said Thursday. “I have never been more depressed about moving forward than I am right now.”

    So with the grand immigration bargain falling apart before it ever came together, and with Trump stuck on $5.7 billion for the wall and Democrats stuck on $0, the logical conclusion for most lawmakers is Trump acting through executive power.

    Specifically, Trump would use existing authority to reprogram unspent funds for military construction ― or redesignate funds earmarked for ongoing projects ― and build his wall that way. There’s believed to be about $13 billion floating around in the military construction budget that hasn’t been spent, along with $10 billion in new money for projects in fiscal 2019 ― more than enough for Trump to get started on his border wall. In effect, however, the move would be challenged in court immediately, tied up for years potentially.

    If there were enough backlash in Congress, Democrats and Republicans could team up to pass legislation blocking Trump’s use of the military construction fund for his wall. But initial reactions from Republicans have skewed more toward support, or at least not opposition, for Trump declaring a national emergency to subvert Congress.

    On Thursday evening, Graham tweeted his support of Trump using an emergency declaration to build the wall.

    Hopefully negotiations will work, but if the Democrats refuse to negotiate, I don’t think the president has much of a choice [but to use his executive power]. Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.)

    And House Republicans were just as deferential Thursday when HuffPost continued asking members about Trump potentially using his executive power to build the wall.

    “Hopefully negotiations will work, but if the Democrats refuse to negotiate, I don’t think the president has much of a choice,” Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said Thursday.

    And even among those who said they would “prefer” Congress fund the wall ― members such as Reps. David Schweikert (R-Ariz.) and Phil Roe (R-Tenn.) ― no one was willing to lay out what repercussions they would support if Trump acted on his own.

    HuffPost repeatedly asked Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) on Thursday whether she opposed the president declaring a national emergency to build the wall, and she repeatedly restated her position that “Congress needs to do our job” without actually answering the question. (She actually offered some variation of “Congress needs to assert its authority” or “Congress needs to do our job” five times when HuffPost asked if she opposed the president declaring an emergency.)

    The point is, Republicans may not love Trump going around Congress, but they don’t seem willing to do anything real to block him at this time.

    On top of that reluctance to openly oppose Trump, lawmakers see the utility of Trump claiming victory and reopening government, with neither side actually giving an inch. Trump would not get to build his wall ― at least not until a court said so ― and Democrats would get to end the shutdown without giving the president a dollar.

    The difficulty is such an arrangement will inevitably derail future appropriations talks, as Democrats would push for riders blocking Trump’s authority to reprogram money and the president wouldn’t sign a bill undercutting his ability to unilaterally build his wall, even if the ultimate decision was for the courts.

    Basically, we’d just be deferring the fight for the time being. But such a move seems like the least messy option as more than 800,000 government workers continue to go without paychecks.

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    In effect, however, the move would be challenged in court immediately, tied up for years potentially.
    No, actually, it probably won't be challenged in court. Who would challenge it that has standing? On what basis? Congress can't sue. DemoQuacks can't sue. ACLU can't sue. Illegal aliens can't sue. Drug cartels can't sue. Tom Steyer can't sue. Law professors can't sue. Who would sue? There is no one with standing to sue, because there is no basis to sue. A property owner could sue to stop an eminent domain action on their property, but they have the right to do that whether the funds are appropriated by Congress or unspent funds used under a national emergency declaration, and the only basis they have is monetary or logistical and that's usually all worked out in the negotiations.

    Get real. Just do it, dear President Trump. It will be okay. Don't worry. It's the right way to do the right thing. Reopen the government and use the national emergency powers to have the military build the wall, exactly like you planned to do on December 19, 2018.

    Nancy Pelosi is the biggest DNC fund-raiser of all time. Why do you think that is? Think about it. She's scared to death of the people she raised all that money from, so ... that should tell you all you need to know. When drug cartels own and control the Speaker of the US House of Representatives, we have more than a national emergency, our country is under siege, and it all needs to grind to a halt. You can and will stop it.

    Thank you, Mr. President!!
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    NATIONAL EMERGENCY NEEDS TO INCLUDE:

    NO PAPERS
    NO ENTRY
    NO RIGHTS!!!

    PUT A "PAUSE" ON ALL REFUGEES, ASYLUM, TPS AND ILLEGAL ALIENS ENTERING OUR COUNTRY!


    TURN THEM ALL RIGHT BACK AROUND!

    WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOUSE AND FEED THEM OR PROCESS THEM ALL!!!

    GO HOME!
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    STAY HOME AND BUILD AMERICA ON YOUR SOIL

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    YES!! DON'T LET THEM IN!! DON'T LET THEM IN!!

    Also, Implement Judy's Plan B!!

    Tell all these countries, if your citizens don't stop entering our country illegally, then your country will have no aid from or trade with the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    YES!! DON'T LET THEM IN!! DON'T LET THEM IN!!

    Also, Implement Judy's Plan B!!

    Tell all these countries, if your citizens don't stop entering our country illegally, then your country will have no aid from or trade with the United States.
    Dream on. Not going to happen and wouldn't accomplish your desired results even if it did. Actually it would create the opposite result. It's not that I support sending our tax dollars to foreign countries because I don't, however, I'm smart enough to know a pipe dream when I see it. Instead of ending the aid, our Congress has made billions more accessible to Mexico and Central America this year.

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    You're really afraid he'll do it aren't you? Why is that?!
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