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    Trump’s Border Wall, Deportation Plans Face Pushback From GOP

    by Laura Litvan
    December 30, 2016, 2:00 AM PST

    Republican critics in Congress chafe at his deportation calls
    GOP leaders in House, Senate want fencing, not a ‘wall’

    Donald Trump’s pledges to deport undocumented immigrants and build a U.S.-Mexico border wall helped fuel Republicans’ surprising election victories, but they now face growing challenges from fellow party members.

    Three Republican senators are working with Democrats to shield about 750,000 young undocumented immigrants from deportation if Trump cancels a 2012 order from President Barack Obama that let them stay in the U.S.

    Lawmakers want to “ensure that children who were brought here by their parents, through no fault of their own, are able to stay and finish their education and continue to contribute to society,” said Republican Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona. Republicans Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska are joining him on a measure drafted by the No. 2 Democratic leader, Dick Durbin of Illinois, that will be introduced after the new Congress convenes Jan. 3.

    Trump’s campaign was largely powered by his get-tough stance on immigration. A Pew Research Center poll in August found that 79 percent of Trump voters want a border wall, compared with 38 percent of all registered voters.

    But among lawmakers in Congress, the desire to build a wall along the entire 1,933-mile border with Mexico has evaporated. Republicans in both chambers instead support more fencing, border patrol agents, drones and other resources to curb illegal entry. House Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul said he’ll offer a bill with some of those steps in January.

    “Starting next month, the people are going to get what they asked for,” the Texas Republican said Dec. 9 at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, contending that the "border security surge" plan is as good as a wall.

    That may not be good enough for Trump, who pushed back after House Speaker Paul Ryan said Dec. 4 on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that "conditions on the ground determine what you need" in different areas of the border.

    "We’re going to work on the wall, Paul," Trump told a cheering audience when the two appeared together Dec. 13 in Wisconsin on the president-elect’s thank-you tour. "We’re going to build the wall, OK? Believe me."

    In a Time magazine interview in early December, Trump didn’t back off a promise to cancel Obama’s executive orders on immigration. But he also said he’ll seek a solution on young undocumented immigrants -- known as “Dreamers” after failed legislation to protect them -- that will “make people happy and proud.”

    McCain in Mexico

    Among the pivotal Republican senators who disagree with Trump is John McCain of Arizona, the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. McCain highlighted his split with Trump’s approaches during a Dec. 20-21 trip to Mexico, where he discussed the U.S. relationship with its southern neighbor with Mexico’s Interior Minister and other government officials.

    While there, McCain said he holds the view of most Senate Democrats that any border security changes should be part of a broader immigration measure to address the status of some or all of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. He helped author a immigration bill along those lines in 2013 that the Senate passed but the House didn’t take up.

    He also emphasized the need for a secure border, but didn’t directly affirm Trump’s call for an actual wall.

    "I believe that we need to have significant improvements in border enforcement, but I believe the way that you do that is technology primarily," McCain said.

    Mexican officials provided some of their own pressure after Trump’s repeated calls for that country to pay for fortification at the border.

    Foreign Minister

    Mexican Foreign Minister Claudia Ruiz Massieu met with Ryan in Washington on Dec. 14 to discuss the U.S.-Mexico relationship. She also met with Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, to discuss Mexico’s support for the bipartisan bill protecting younger undocumented immigrants.

    Most Republicans in Congress, particularly those in the House, favor securing the border before changing the immigration law. House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California has said McCaul’s border-security ideas are a “good place to start.”

    McCaul in 2015 advanced a measure through his committee that would have required the Department of Homeland Security to achieve operational control of the Southwest border in five years, based on a sector-by-sector analysis. The agency’s political appointees would be denied pay raises and bonuses if the bill’s goals weren’t met.

    He has indicated his new proposal will be more extensive, coming under a Republican president who sees the border as a bigger priority.

    “We must start with an immediate border security ‘surge,’” McCaul said at the Heritage Foundation. “We have started to work on emergency plans in Congress to build the tough array of barriers we need along the border, close all gaps and defend American sovereignty."

    Israel’s Fence

    In the Senate, Homeland Security and Government Reform Chairman Ron Johnson says he isn’t in a hurry. He says he wants to wait until the confirmation of retired Marine General John Kelly, Trump’s choice to lead the Department of Homeland Security, and to work with him on a proposal.

    In the meantime, Johnson recently returned from a trip to Israel to discuss border security with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and examine nearly 160 miles of steel fencing that separates Israel from the Sinai. Johnson estimates it might cost the U.S. about $4 billion to build something similar along portions of the border with Mexico, and wants to consider whether Israel’s approach offers a model.

    “I’m interested in passing a bill that will actually work,” said Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican. “It may take a little more time and a little more thought.”

    Regardless of the pace of the broader debate, Congress could add funds for border security to the next spending bill to keep the U.S. government open after current funding expires April 28.

    Money From Mexico

    While Trump promised to make Mexico pay for the changes, few lawmakers see that as a realistic goal -- at least not initially.

    Representative Mark Meadows, the new chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said that while most members of his group will want to offset the cost with reductions in other spending, a border plan without spending offsets won’t lose many of their votes.

    Freedom Caucus members see border security as a “major problem, and the American people want it built," Meadows of North Carolina said in an interview. "We can probably move the funds from something that is not paid-for to the wall."

    The last significant action on immigration was in 2013, when the Senate voted 68-32 for its plan that included a path to legal residency and $46 billion to secure the U.S-Mexico border. The bill would have doubled the Border Patrol’s size by adding 20,000 agents, required 700 miles of border fencing, and added unmanned drones to help police the border. The House didn’t consider the bill.

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    Thanks Jean! I was just about to post this!
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    Isn't this typical. RINOs are going to join with the Democrats to protect illegal immigration and open borders. We must rip out every last RINO on the face of the earth. No you don't RINO scum. That wall is going up and the illegal alien squatters are going home. And the RINOs need to be driven out of our party--every damn last one of them. RINOs get out of our party, out of our country and off of our planet.
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    The devil is in deception - DACA goes way beyond small children brought here illegally by parents -it encompasses all that sneakered across between open borders gw in '03 and obama to '12. Goes WAY BEYOND babies brought here by illegal parents. Never saw a mexican up here in the NE area of our USA till those years and all of a sudden SWAMPED WITH THEM EVERYWHERE - NOTHING TO DO WITH BABIES BROUGHT BY PARENTS ILLEGALLY! And DAPA would have given rights to ALL THAT HAD ANCHOR BABIES!!! This is what obama, ryan and the below proposed. Has the wool been removed from your eyes yet??? DACA means this:

    "Individuals who meet the following criteria can apply for deferred action for childhood arrivals: are under 31 years of age as of June 15, 2012;
    • came to the U.S. while under the age of 16;
    • have continuously resided in the U.S. from June 15, 2007 to the present. (For purposes of calculating this five year period, brief and innocent absences from the United States for humanitarian reasons will not be included);
    • entered the U.S. without inspection or fell out of lawful visa status before June 15, 2012;
    • were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making the request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
    • are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a GED, or have been honorably discharged from the Coast Guard or armed forces;
    • have not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor, or more than three misdemeanors of any kind; and
    • do not pose a threat to national security or public safety.

    Applicants will have to provide documentary evidence of the above criteria. In addition, every applicant must complete and pass a biographic and biometric background check"
    http://www.immigrationequality.org/get-legal-help/our-legal-resources/path-to-status-in-the-u-s/daca-deferred-action-for-childhood-arrivals/

    Will Republicans Block Trump on Illegal Immigration?


    12/30/2016 / By shawn President-elect Donald Trump soared to the Republican nomination in large part because of his tough stance on illegal immigration. And while he has modified that stance away from his initial promise to deport nearly every illegal immigrant in the United States, his agenda may still be met with resistance…within his own party.
    Several Republican senators are joining forces with Democrat Sen. Dick Durbin to pass legislation that would protect President Obama’s so-called “DREAMers” if Trump decides to scrap the 2012 executive order granting them immunity from deportation. Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham, and Lisa Murkowski have decided that this should be one of the number one priorities for the Republican-controlled Congress.
    Flake said they want to “ensure that children who were brought here by their parents, through no fault of their own, are able to stay and finish their education and continue to contribute to society.”
    Trump has sent mixed messages about the 750,000 illegal immigrants under the protection of DACA, but he said recently that he would work out a deal that would make everyone happy. So not only are these Republicans leaping to “save” all of these poor immigrants, they’re doing so without any reason to believe they’re in danger. This is posturing, and it’s a sign that these three Republicans will be looking to make trouble for Trump over the next four years.
    Trump may also be met with Republican resistance if he moves forward with his promise to build a wall across the Mexican border. Lawmakers like House Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul, House Speaker Paul Ryan, and Sen. John McCain are just a few Republicans who have tried to downplay expectations regarding one of Trump’s signature issues.
    “I believe that we need to have significant improvements in border enforcement, but I believe the way that you do that is technology primarily,” McCain said last week.
    The idea is that Republicans will fund virtual fencing and drones in an effort to beef up border security rather than approve the wall. Trump has indicated that he would accept fencing “in certain areas,” but he has never wavered from his vow to build a “big, beautiful wall.” If Republicans think they can pull a fast one – “Oh, this is just as good as a wall” – they may be in for a surprise.
    We’re starting to get the sense that congressional Republicans believe that they can use Trump for their own agenda while ignoring the one he ran on. Their success down-ticket has blinded them to the message that was sent to them so clearly. Trump saved this party from their own impending catastrophe, but they seem determined to self-destruct.

    http://totalconservative.com/will-re...l-immigration/
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