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    Trump Bashes $4 Billion In IRS Refunds To Illegals

    Aug 20, 2015 @ 5:41 AM
    Robert W. Wood

    President Obama and Donald Trump see immigration differently. The President’s aggressive executive action on immigration is still being litigated, and Mr. Trump proposes action of a different kind. In the meantime, tax credits and refunds for illegal immigrants have become controversial. Mr. Trump says illegal immigrants get $4.2 billion in tax credits. He can point to a 2011 audit by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. It confirms that individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States were paid $4.2 billion in refundable credits.

    It sounds crazy, and yet one source says Trump is the one being unfair, taking this out of context, and not counting their taxes paid. Bear in mind that undocumented immigrants cannot legitimately get Social Security numbers. However, they can file taxes with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number or ITIN. They are not supposed to get the Earned Income Tax Credit, but they can receive the additional child tax credit.

    That, rather than Mr. Trump, is the culprit. Mr. Trump might also point out the arguably bigger flap over the illegal immigrants whose status would be legitimized under the President’s executive action. That boondoggle is arguably even bigger, involving the Earned Income Tax Credit. Yet, it is the same refundable tax credit responsible for billions in fraudulent refunds.

    The recipe goes like this. First, get a Social Security Number, then claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for the last three years. Then, wait for the IRS to send you three years of tax refunds. The gambit could apparently work even if you never paid taxes, never filed a return, and worked off the books. And the IRS says this is the way the Earned Income Tax Credit works.

    Cautious IRS Commissioner Koskinen himself explained the seemingly bizarre result to Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa). Illegal immigrants covered by the President’s amnesty deal can claim back tax credits for work they performed illegally, even if they never filed a tax return during those years. This written response clarified the IRS chief’s earlier statements, confirming that illegals can get back taxes.

    Earlier this year, Mr. Koskinen said that to claim a refund, an illegal immigrant would need to have filed past tax returns. Yet the IRS chief later corrected himself and said that they can claim the money even if they never filed tax returns in the past. According to the IRS, illegal immigrants granted amnesty and Social Security numbers can claim up to three years of back tax credits.

    The IRS says a 2000 Chief Counsel Advice on this issue is correct. With the amnesty, illegal immigrants could receive tens of thousands of dollars in tax refunds. Calling the three year tax refund perk a mockery of the law, Senator Grassley noted that illegals would be able to claim billions of dollars in tax benefits.Although the President hasn’t backed down, U.S. Rep. Patrick McHenry introduced the No Free Rides Act. The bill would not stop illegal immigrants from filing tax returns, but would prohibit those workers from using the Earned Income Tax Credit.

    “My bill is a direct result of the (IRS) announcement,” said McHenry. “It’s very simple. If you’re not here legally, you should not be able to access the Earned Income Credit. It’s for the American taxpayers who are trying to make ends meet.” Rep. McHenry noted that even if undocumented workers were employed in the past, many may have used Social Security numbers that didn’t belong to them.

    “President Obama’s immigration action giving millions of illegal immigrants Social Security numbers marked an unprecedented executive overreach,” said McHenry. “Now, we learn that these same people, whose first act on American soil was breaking our laws, might be eligible for up to $24,000 in tax credits. This is simply unacceptable. By introducing the No Free Rides Act we ensure these illegal immigrants will not receive any more benefits intended to help American families.”

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    First of all, no illegal alien should even be allowed to file a tax return.

    Second of all, to file a tax return means you collected money in the United States illegally. Not only do we not want that tax money, we don't want them to have the job or earnings that generated the need to file a tax return, because it's like telling a bank robber, okay, just file this form reporting the cash "withdrawal" over $10,000 and you're fine, good to go.

    Third of all, the last thing in the whole universe of reason and logic we would ever do is send them cash refunds for tax credits, because that's like sending a bonus to a bank robber for filing his cash withdrawal form on his way out the door of the bank after a bank robbery with a letter thanking them for their contribution to our economy.

    I just don't understand at all how any American can still support the idiocy, harm and failures of the income tax system especially when we have this truly beautiful FairTax legislation awaiting attention and votes in the US Congress now for 16 years with 71 sponsors in the US House of Representatives and 6 Sponsors in the US Senate.

    FairTax Act of 2015:

    HR 25 in the US House of Representatives
    S 155 in the US Senate
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    Trump appears to be doing his homework. This is just another thing that has caused public outrage against illegals.

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    OBAMA YOU HAVE TO GO NO TWO WAY ABOUT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Third of all, the last thing in the whole universe of reason and logic we would ever do is send them cash refunds for tax credits, because that's like sending a bonus to a bank robber for filing his cash withdrawal form on his way out the door of the bank after a bank robbery with a letter thanking them for their contribution to our economy.
    This is god's truth.

    Whatever anybody may say about The Donald, he's the only candidate who consistently will not back away from telling the whole truth about illegal aliens to the American people.
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