Thread: Trump Calls for 'Complete Shutdown' of Muslims Entering the U.S.

YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES! Mr. Trump needs to stand firmly, and unwavering, with his public and bold assessment of what our Nation is facing with Islam, and he can start demanding that our country strictly adhere to our immigration laws beginning with U.S. Public Law 414 passed 6/27/1952 a.k.a. the McCarran-Walter Act, Chapter 2, Section 212. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the U.S. if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means." Per another poster: Islamic immigration to the U.S. would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the U.S. government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life's guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the U.S. because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any "organization" that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited." May God Bless and keep Mr. Trump, his family, and those under his employ safe.
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6:57 PM

Originally Posted by kal60

YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES! Mr. Trump needs to stand firmly, and unwavering, with his public and bold assessment of what our Nation is facing with Islam, and he can start demanding that our country strictly adhere to our immigration laws beginning with U.S. Public Law 414 passed 6/27/1952 a.k.a. the McCarran-Walter Act, Chapter 2, Section 212. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the U.S. if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means." Per another poster: Islamic immigration to the U.S. would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the U.S. government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life's guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the U.S. because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any "organization" that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited." May God Bless and keep Mr. Trump, his family, and those under his employ safe.
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6:57 PM

Thank you so much for this information, kal60!

And welcome to ALIPAC!!

I absolutely agree with Donald Trump. It's time we started looking out for number one in this country instead of kissing the arse of those who hate us. Stop letting them in.

I agree with Trump. I do not feel that my government is capable of properly vetting anyone.

Dingodoodles, I appreciate your avatar icon! And your comments. Welcome!

I agree with Trump. Temporarily block the terrorist's avenues into our country until we , as a nation, can get the situation under control.

Yes, agree with total block - the 680,000 muslims brought to the USA by this administration since 2009 from known jihadist territories, need to be investigated and deported if they have connections to terrorism.

The planned 100,000 refugees per year needs to be stopped also. How war torn are these areas if all women are producing several babies.

Why don't the young men stay in their countries and FIGHT for it? They do not wish to assimilate, which is a requirement to be in USA permanently. The recent California tragedy was perpetrated by a first generation born in America muslim. How well did his family assimilate? Not at all.

Click link for Trump speech on muslim ban.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/embed/video/1235172.html

Originally Posted by artist

Yes, agree with total block - the 680,000 muslims brought to the USA by this administration since 2009 from known jihadist territories, need to be investigated and deported if they have connections to terrorism.

The planned 100,000 refugees per year needs to be stopped also. How war torn are these areas if all women are producing several babies.

Why don't the young men stay in their countries and FIGHT for it? They do not wish to assimilate, which is a requirement to be in USA permanently. The recent California tragedy was perpetrated by a first generation born in America muslim. How well did his family assimilate? Not at all.

Click link for Trump speech on muslim ban.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/embed/video/1235172.html

Because they're lazy coward religionist terrorists, that's why they don't stay in their countries and fight for it. They've got countries that aren't worth anything because all the do all day is pray and go to their mosques 5 times a day and plot against their neighbors, friends and anyone who doesn't hold the same "view" as they do. They can't get along with each other, they can't get along with their government even when it's a nice secular government like Assad set-up, they can't get along with their neighboring countries, they can't even get along with their own wives or families.

me i call to stop funding Islam too

Trump Asks Us to Choose: The Boot or the Feather

Trump's comments on banning all Muslims from the US have highlighted the absurd duality of 'boot or feather' responses to Islamism.

“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

So reads a news release put out by the campaign managing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination.

Trump’s campaign manager clarified the ban would include Muslims simply travelling for tourism.

Trump was immediately and vociferously lambasted for his statement, but his response to criticism was a laconic “I don’t care.”

He should.

This plan would not only bar millions of ordinary Muslims from entering the U.S. based on nothing they had done, which the Anti-Defamation League described as “unacceptable and antithetical to American values.”

It would also be a major setback for those struggling against extremism and a major coup for ISIS and related groups who seek to portray their war as one of "Muslims vs the world."

Were the plan implemented, members of Clarion Project’s advisory board, Dr. Elham Manea (interviewed here) and Raheel Raza, who are based in Switzerland and Canada respectively, would be unable to enter the United States.

Both women are tireless campaigners against Islamist extremism having spent years pushing alternative narratives within their communities.

So would figures like Maulana Wahiddudin Khan, the Indian Sufi mystic and religious leader who runs the Center for Peace and Spirituality, an international network that preaches non-violence.

Also to be banned would be the attendees of the Muslim Reform conference, which was held in Washington D.C. on December 4.

That initiative was started by another member of Clarion Project’s advisory board, Dr. Zudhi Jasser, a former U.S. naval officer who brought together Muslim thinkers and activists to sign a joint declaration in favor of “a respectful,
merciful and inclusive interpretation of Islam.”

Among the signatories was the British counter-extremism scholarSheikh Usama Hasan, previously interviewed by Clarion Project.

He is a recognized expert in Islamic theology and texts and staunchly opposes the supremacist political ideology of Islamism from a place of knowledge and understanding and from within the Islamic tradition.

Read the complete Muslim Reform Movement declaration and the list of signatories.

Yet all of these figures, who are foremost in the struggle againstIslamism, the ideology which this measure is aimed to combat, would be denied entry by Trump.

The Islamic State and other Islamists have long told Muslims there is a war against Islam, waged by anti-Muslim bigots who seek to destroy Islam.

Statements like those made by Trump play directly into this narrative and will almost certainly be used as propaganda by recruiters all over the world for "soft" Islamist groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jamaat e-Islami and the
Muslim Brotherhood.

Combating this narrative requires counter-extremists to engage with Muslims and refuse to fall into the trap set by Islamists of treating Islam monolithically.

It is only in the separation of the political ideology of Islamism from the religion of Islam and countering that ideology with universal human rights values that victory over Islamism will be achieved and jihadist terrorism halted.

That process requires the active participation of Muslims, not their alienation.

It is for this reason Clarion conducts interviews and outreach with Muslim (and non-Muslim) human rights activists from a wide range of backgrounds.

Many mainstream politicians and media figures have failed to address issues of Islamist extremism in this way. Their approach can be described as a "feather" - steering away from identifying any Islamic component in the ideology.

By slandering as “Islamophobic” criticism of the ideological roots of jihadist terrorism, they inadvertently push people to view the problem as Islam.

The Democratic Party recently came out with a campaign advert calling on supporters to avoid using the term “radical Islam.” This helped create the space for Trump’s approach - which can be termed "boot."

He told Fox News Obama “won’t even mention the term, the term the name of what’s going on.”British counter-extremism activist and ex-Islamist Maajid Nawazcalls this the #VoldemortEffect after the Harry Potter book series.

“You’re sending out the message to the vast majority of Americans: There’s an ideology you must challenge, but you don’t tell them what it’s called.”

Nawaz queried, “What are they going to assume? The average American is going to think, ‘Yeah, I’ve got to challenge an ideology — it’s called Islam.'”

This is a very dangerous place to be. Given the rising tide of terrorism committed in the name of Islam people stripped of the ability to name and tackle the ideology will simply tell themselves, “I’d rather be a racist than a corpse.”

This can be seen in the reactions of Trump supporters to his comments:

The Front Nationale (FN) just won the regional elections in France, bringing the far-right anti-immigration party into the mainstream for the first time. Fears about terrorism and Islamic integration played a large part in that victory.

“As predicted, liberals' failure to take on Islamism morally & responsibly has left Trump's bigotry & fear-mongering to fill the void.” Ali A. Rizvi, a Pakistani-Canadian activist against Islamist extremism posted on Facebook.

The choice is not between the boot and the feather. There is another way.

full story : Trump Asks Us to Choose: The Boot or the Feather