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    Trump is expected to phase out DACA program, although decision is not finalized

    Trump is expected to phase out DACA program, although decision is not finalized

    September 4 at 12:22 AM
    By Philip Rucker, Karoun Demirjian and Maria Sacchetti

    President Trump is expected to phase out the Obama-era program that grants work permits to about 800,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children, but delay its end for six months to give Congress time to pass legislation to replace it, according to multiple people briefed on the president’s discussions.

    Trump’s plan remains fluid and could change, however, and administration officials stressed Sunday evening that the president has not finalized his decision. The White House has scheduled an announcement for Tuesday.

    Trump has been wrestling over the future of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program since the start of his presidency, and he has been known to change his mind about difficult policy issues until the moment he makes public a decision.

    Politico first reported Sunday evening that Trump had decided to end the DACA program.

    Two people briefed on Trump’s deliberations and a third person with knowledge of the internal discussions said that the White House is preparing to slowly phase out the program so Congress could pass legislation for an alternative program to help the program’s recipients, known as “Dreamers.” All of these people spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the discussions.

    Many questions remain about how the policy would be implemented, including how long after Trump’s announcement current DACA beneficiaries would have to renew their protected status.

    Should Trump move forward with this decision, he would effectively be buying time and punting responsibility to Congress to determine the fate of the Dreamers. There is a consensus view among many of his top advisers that the DACA program, which President Barack Obama created by executive action, would not stand up in a court of law.

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions, senior policy adviser Stephen Miller and recently departed chief White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon have advocated a hard-line immigration stance with the president, including ending DACA.

    During the campaign, Trump vowed to end DACA immediately. But he has since voiced sympathy for the program’s beneficiaries, many of whom immigrated to the United States as young children and have lived here for most of their lives.

    “We love the Dreamers,” Trump told reporters Friday in the Oval Office. “We think the Dreamers are terrific.”

    Surrogates for Trump said Sunday that American workers would benefit from an end to the DACA program, which has let undocumented children work and study in the United States without fear of deportation, but congressional Republicans urged the White House to leave the program intact.

    Trump “wants to do what’s fair to the American worker, what’s fair to people in this country who are competing for jobs and other benefits,” counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway said Sunday on “Fox & Friends.” She said the president’s decision should be viewed as part of an “entire economic and domestic agenda” that includes an end to sanctuary cities, increased border security and constructing a wall along the southern border.

    Young immigrants and supporters attend a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday in support of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. (Frederic J. Brown/AFP/Getty Images)

    “He says we have to keep people and poison out of our communities. People who are coming here illegally and competing for those jobs,” Conway said.

    In an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said he was “less concerned about the economic impact” of ending the DACA program because “we’ll make sure that we have plenty of workers in this economy. We want to put more people back to work.”

    Neither Conway nor Mnuchin specified what Trump will say when he addresses the future of the DACA program Tuesday.

    As a candidate, Trump promised to end the program, but he has never acted on that promise. Instead, he has several times expressed sympathy for the plight of DACA recipients — and eschewed signing draft executive orders presented to him that would end the program.

    Congressional pushback to reports Trump may end the DACA program continued unabated through the weekend, as lawmakers implored the president to leave the program alone.

    “It would be the right thing to do to go back on that promise,” Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said of Trump’s DACA campaign pledge on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “This is one that he ought to ignore.”

    Flake has long criticized Trump, but their relationship has deteriorated in recent weeks after the president endorsed his 2018 primary challenger Kelli Ward. On Sunday, Flake also voiced skepticism about the idea that Congress might barter with Trump to get him to leave the DACA program intact by funding his much-desired border wall. “If he’s talking about a solitary, brick-and-mortar, 2,000-mile edifice on the border, then no, nobody ought to support that,” Flake said.

    Flake is not the only member of Congress attempting to stand in between the president and the DACA program. Those urging the president to let DACA survive include House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and conservative senators like Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), who have implored Trump to give Congress a chance to address the program in law.

    Tackling immigration is not easy for Congress, where many conservatives argue that more must be done to secure the border before addressing programs to streamline entry for immigrants or legalize the undocumented. Previous efforts to combine immigration and border enforcement initiatives have failed, even when Democrats had congressional majorities.

    Still, the sympathetic cases of DACA recipients have inspired lawmakers from various corners of Congress to sponsor legislation to legalize their status. Their support raises the possibility that a handful of Republicans could join congressional Democrats to get a bill over the finish line.

    But Conway suggested that even growing sympathy for DACA recipients — including Trump’s own sympathies — would not change his mind about ending the program.

    “I do want to remind everyone that President Trump was able to take issues that were languishing in low single digits, if not an asterisk in the polls in terms of what’s most important to you — trade, illegal immigration — and he was able to expand them into an entire message of fairness,” Conway said.

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    LOL!! Every article has a different angle or version or process. I think all we know for sure at this point is that an announcement to end DACA is coming Tuesday, something we already knew, and based on US Secretary of the Treasury, Steve Mnuchin, they plan to fill the jobs held by DACA's with American Workers, and according to Kelly Anne Conway, whatever sympathy Trump may have for the DACA people, it doesn't change or affect his policy to put American Workers first.

    Lets hope they were authorized to speak on Tee Vee and trust them over people "familiar with the conversations speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the discussions."

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    Americans want this program ended in full, right now, in a way that doesn't result in lawsuits. We're sick and tired of hearing about foreign dreamers, we want to hear about our dreamers, jobs for our dreamers, educations for our dreamers, our dreamers are incredible kids, our dreamers are terrific, our dreamers are the best dreamers ever. Get them their jobs back, open up these seats in colleges for them, restore their rights, their privileges, their opportunities that have been stolen from them.

    End this crap of putting illegal aliens above our own children.

    Thank you, Mr. President.

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    Did Donald Trump endorse Kelli Ward as this article claims or did I miss something? I cant find any evidence of that on search engines. Did this article assume endorsement??

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    Obama was really making a mess of America
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    It was taken from his comments at the Phoenix rally back in August where he's attacking Flake and said he was glad to see Kelli Ward running against Flake. Some took that as a kind of endorsement of Kelli Ward. I'm not aware of any other statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Did Donald Trump endorse Kelli Ward as this article claims or did I miss something? I cant find any evidence of that on search engines. Did this article assume endorsement??

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    This one article mentions his previous tweet as a possible endorsement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Americans want this program ended in full, right now, in a way that doesn't result in lawsuits . . .
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    LOL!! That's because the idiot Cuomas don't understand about the program expiring by its terms simultaneously with the dismissal of the Texas lawsuit, because 1) they were too lazy to read the various memos involved in DACA 2012 and 2) they were too stupid to read the court ruling before threatening a frivolous lawsuit against a government enforcing its laws and upholding the US Constitution.
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    Did Donald Trump endorse Kelli Ward as this article claims or did I miss something? I cant find any evidence of that on search engines. Did this article assume endorsement??

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    President Donald Trump appears to endorse Kelli Ward in tweet bashing Sen. Jeff Flake

    Dan Nowicki, The Republic | azcentral.comPublished 7:20 a.m. MT Aug. 17, 2017 | Updated 5:51 p.m. MT Aug. 20, 2017



    President Trump said Tuesday the groups protesting against white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, were also very violent. He called those protesters the alt-left, and says there is "blame on both sides" after the deadly violence. AP


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    President Donald Trump landed a long-anticipated blow to Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona early Thursday, seemingly endorsing his Republican primary opponent in a Twitter message.

    In a tweet posted at 3:56 a.m. Arizona time, Trump said: "Great to see that Dr. Kelli Ward is running against Flake Jeff Flake, who is WEAK on borders, crime and a non-factor in Senate. He's toxic!"


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    The social-media attack on Flake, R-Ariz., who recently wrote a book critical of the Republican Party's embrace of Trump's politics, left Ward, the former state senator from Lake Havasu City, jubilant. And it left Flake's fellow Republicans scrambling to defend him from the president of their own party.

    "Jeff Flake is an excellent Senator and a tireless advocate for Arizona and our nation," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Thursday afternoon in a brief written statement. "He has my full support."


    Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on which Flake sits, on Thursday praised Flake as "one of the finest human beings I've ever met."



    "The White House would be well-served to embrace the character, the substance, of someone like Senator Flake," Corker said. "He's one of the finest people I serve with. He's got a conscience. He is a real conservative. ... I hope for the good of our country he is someone who will be serving after 2018, and I'm thankful to know him."

    But Flake has been on Trump's radar for a long time, and Flake likely exacerbated the already negative relationship with the Aug. 1 publication of his anti-Trump book, Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Politics and a Return to Principle.


    First elected to the Senate in 2012 and up for re-election in 2018, Flake was one of Trump’s most vocal Republican critics during the presidential campaign, refusing to endorse or vote for him. He recently published a book that further antagonized the president by criticizing the new influence of pro-Trump populists, protectionists and conspiracy theorists.


    Ward, meanwhile, has been a vocal supporter of Trump's agenda and at times publicly parroted some of his controversial statements, including blaming "both sides" for the recent violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.


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    A buoyant Ward appeared on Phoenix radio station KFYI-AM (550) shortly after 6:30 a.m.Thursday.

    "It's a pretty darn great morning," she said, adding that Trump's tweet of support was a sign of escalating momentum for her campaign against Flake.


    "The president is exactly right: Jeff Flake is weak on the border," Ward said on KFYI. "He's an open-borders globalist. He has embraced the term 'globalist' himself."


    Ward said that she and "Team Ward" will be out "in full force" Tuesday at Trump's rally at the downtown Phoenix Convention Center. She stopped short of saying whether she would be speaking at the event, only saying "there's a lot of discussion going on right now."



    Sen. Jeff Flake (Photo: Jacquelyn Martin/Associated Press)

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee, the arm of the Republican Party that works to elect GOP senators, is sticking by the incumbent Flake.

    "The NRSC unequivocally supports Senator Flake in his reelection bid," said Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., the NRSC chairman.


    If Trump has, in fact, landed on Ward as his favored challenger to Flake, it would set up a proxy war of sorts between factions within the Arizona Republican Party for next year's Senate nomination.


    Will Allison, a spokesman for Flake’s 2018 re-election campaign, accused Trump and Ward, two Washington outsiders, of making a new kind of inside-Washington agreement.


    "You don't serve Arizona by cutting backroom deals in Washington, D.C.,” Allison said in a written statement provided to The Arizona Republic. “That's why Senator Flake will always fight for the people of our state.”


    Ward last year challenged McCain in the GOP primary but lost. She earned nearly 40 percent of the vote to McCain's 51 percent in a four-way race.

    Not long after her defeat, she re-launched her campaign for the 2018 primary against Flake.


    Ward recently received national attention by saying McCain, who is undergoing treatment for brain cancer, should step down so that Gov. Doug Ducey could appoint a new Republican senator to replace him. And she said she thought she should be considered for the job.


    In a Thursday morning tweet, McCain, who also has long been at odds with Trump, defended his ally Flake as "a principled legislator" who does what's right for the people of Arizona.


    "Our state needs his leadership now more than ever," McCain said.


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    Trump’s apparent endorsement of Ward comes two days after a news conference in which the president again blamed “both sides” for violence at a Saturday rally by white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Three people died, including a woman killed after a car rammed into a crowd of counter-protesters.
    Ward voiced agreement with Trump's casting blame on both sides, saying in a message on Twitter "I agree - stop the hate, violence & rhetoric on both sides - we need to stand together as Americans!" As part of her message she quoted Trump's tweet on the matter.

    Trump's shout-out to Ward gives her a clear boost over possible rival Robert Graham, a former state GOP chairman who has been seen as a potential entrant into the Senate race. Jeff DeWit, the Arizona state treasurer who is close to Trump, also has frequently been mentioned as a possible candidate but this week made public comments that indicated he's not that interested in the Senate job.

    Former Rep. Matt Salmon, R-Ariz., came up briefly Thursday as the favorite of some in Trump's orbit but he quickly confirmed that he instead will keep his post-Congress job at Arizona State University.


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    The president apparently decided to say something nice about Ward without giving his aides a heads up. Also, he may have been channeling former Rep. J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., who appeared on the Fox News Channel shortly before Trump tweeted.

    Hayworth, whose 2010 primary challenge for the Senate was crushed by McCain, praised Ward and blasted Flake as "toxic," the same word that appeared in Trump's subsequent anti-Flake tweet.


    "Dr. Kelli Ward is out working hard," Hayworth said on the early-morning "FOX & Friends"program. "... She gave John McCain a great race in the primary of 2016; in fact, performed better than I did in 2010. She's got the momentum, she's gaining some of the money, keep your eyes on Kelli Ward."

    Hayworth, who served six terms in Congress before his 2006 ouster by Democrat Harry Mitchell, further accused Flake of doing his best "to be obnoxious, to be the smirking senator that he is really known to be."

    This week's Republican Senate primary in Alabama gave a glimpse at Trump's influence in GOP races around the country.

    The president endorsed incumbent Sen. Luther Strange, who on Tuesday finished second behind Roy Moore, a former Alabama Supreme Court chief justice. But Strange's performance was good enough for him to proceed to a runoff, and some observers say he might not have made it to the next round without Trump's help.


    Nowicki is The Republic's national political reporter. Follow him on Twitter, @dannowicki.

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