Thread: Trump: I'll have 11 million illegals gone in 2 years

Originally Posted by United States First

I have been at this issue for well over a decade and while I think Trump will seal the border as well as anybody; respectfully beyond that I see no real evidence that he will be any better on the Illegal Immigration Issue than any other Amnesty Loving Politician.

My comments are not what most would like to hear but out of respect to all of you, "I have to say it as I see it and how the Facts Pan out". I see a lot of good Americans desperate for a real solution on the Illegal Immigration Issue being sold a bill of sale by a good salesman's, (Donald Trump's) hard line Rhetoric while many American's pay very little attention to the LACK of substance Trump has to back up his sales pitch.

Consider this:
1. Trump has no real substance to his Immigration talking points, no real understanding of the facts on the issue, and no real history of a recorded position on the issue. Beyond that Trump has good attention Grabbing Hard line Talking Points and a media that is on a feeding frenzy of every word Trump says and than Trump has a policy Letter that Trump had no idea how to write, so he reportedly he had Jeff Sessions write it for him. http://time.com/3999767/trump-policy-paper/

2. Get them out in 2 years good Rhetoric. It took us 29 years from 1986 to get us to this point and Trump proposes a quick fix which he doesn't say how he will accomplish it because he has no idea. This smells of a disaster, quick fixes don't work. Even the most aggressive mass round up, it would take years with all the Lawyers lined up to Protect Illegals and add to that the Pure Immense population of this nation and Illegals. That is UNLESS Trump plans on following in the footsteps of Obama and makes up the law as he goes along, can you say martial law or something close, which steps on all our rights and smells disaster.

3. Probably MOST important in the few talking points Trump repeats "If we have wonderful cases, they can come back in" a few weeks ago he said "We got to move 'em out, we're going to move 'em back in if they're really good people," http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/is...rticle/2569293

Even more wide open to Amnesty is the attached video interview with Trump, where he wants to deport the criminals but the others can come back in Legally. He wants to get them out and have an expedited way to get them back in legally. I GOT NEWS FOR ANYBODY BUYING THAT GARBAGE Trumps is talking a TOUCH BACK POLICY which is a Gimmick and he is talking Amnesty with the same rewards as any other Amnesty Legal Status and Jobs and you know what: Trump doesn't even count out giving the Illegals an added reward of Citizenship for Breaking our Laws. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KveO...ature=youtu.be

4. One more thing listen to the video interview again Trump has no idea what he is talking about on solving the Healthcare or the Immigration Issue he just basically says we have to fix it, but he has no substance of knowledge how to do that, he hasn't a clue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KveO...ature=youtu.be

Lastly there is only one real Politician in the race for President who really seriously "GETS IT" when it comes to the issue of Immigration Legal and Illegal", one Candidate who has a serious well defined Policy Plan and only one Candidate who really understands the Issue of Immigration, Rick Santorum. But that's not the current discussion. We will need to discuss that later, as a matter of fact we can compare Trump and Santorum side by side, Trump doesn't even come close, now that I have seriously looked at the facts on Trump.

You make some very good points. Especially concerning to me is #3. An expedited return could very well be the touch back policy of old. We've heard all of this rhetoric before and have been burned repeatedly by various politicians over the last couple decades. It's going to take more than two months of tough talk to win my trust. However, it's starting to look like Trump is the only game in town with Walker and Santorum polling so poorly. I would have loved to had a choice between Santorum, Walker, and Trump going into the primaries. Right now they're the only three on my list for consideration. Cruz would be on my list too if he would come off of his desire to open the floodgates for legal immigration. I hate throwing all my eggs into one basket, especially when I'm not yet convinced that basket is strong enough to support them.

September 12, 2015
By Ed Straker

Donald Trump was asked how long it will take to get rid of our illegal aliens. He was asked if it could be done in five to ten years. That's the answer most politicians give to any question, such as balancing the budget--it's a long enough time frame so they will be out of office before they are held responsible for not delivering on their promises.

But to his credit, Trump said deporting illegals was doable not in five to ten years but 18 months to two years. He is the first candidate to call for deportation of illegals and to set a short, definable timeline. Of the other candidates, Ted Cruz has been silent on deportation, while Jeb and Ben Carson have called for amnesty for illegal aliens. (And Scott Walker has had all of the aforementioned positions.)

But how can you get rid of 11 million illegal aliens, or even more, in 2 years?

Quite easily. First of all, we know exactly where they are. They are not "hiding in the shadows". Their kids are very conspicuous, because they are the ones in our schools who don't speak a word of English. They can be tracked from there alone. The Supreme Court has said that illegals are entitled to an education, but the constitutionality of that decision is questionable, and the Congress can act to limit the jurisdiction of the Court.

Second, once some illegals are deported many others will leave.

Third, once e-verify becomes mandatory, and illegals are cut off from welfare, most will leave of their own accord.

What it requires is a President who will say no to the Courts, who created many of these rights for illegals. As I've said, the Congress can limit the authority of the Courts in this regard. But even if Congress doesn't act, a President can declare that the Supreme Court has no authority in this area. Most Presidents would not do this, but a President Trump might. As Mark Levin says, Where in the Constitution does it say the Supreme Court has the final word on everything? The answer, nowhere. If we had an assertive President, it could get done.

I am impressed that Trump is the first and only candidate to set a timeline for getting rid of illegals. I have no idea what he would actually do as President, but I love the way he is pushing the debate in this direction. The liberal media/establishment Republican thought has been "It's impossible to get rid of so many people!" but by making it a quick, short-term goal, Trump is once again making the unthinkable, thinkable.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...n_2_years.html